Markets Crash?

Markets Crash?

Postby Fletch » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:15 pm

S&P Crashes Most Since US Downgrade As VIX Explodes, Bond Yields Flash-Crash

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CNBC Pisani: "This has the feel of a textbook pullback"

This was the biggest drop for the S&P since August 2011

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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Stooo » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:16 pm

But.

Her.

Emails.
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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Fletch » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:17 pm

Cryptos Are Suddenly Soaring

Cryptos blasted off and soared at precisely 3pm just as stocks were crashing, in the process undoing most of today's losses.

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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:18 pm

Yes lot of pointers to a massive crash due .... now.
We didn't deal with the last one beyond printing up rolls of wallpaper to cover the cracks.
This time round we've run out of tricks.
It could get quite scary.
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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Fletch » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:19 pm

The Market Is Crashing: Is the Bogeyman Risk Parity or CTAs?

The real clue to exposing the boogeyman might be seeing what triggers real fear in the volatility markets...

Google.com/2018-02- ... ty-or-ctas

Dow Crashes As Much As 1500 Points As Bond Yields Flash-Crash

Bond yields just flash-crashed. Dow is down 1300 points. VIX is above 34!

Google.com/2018-02- ... ints-highs
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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Fletch » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:21 pm

Are Markets Coming To Terms With The Notion Of The Punch-Bowl Running Dry?

"The market is only at the earliest stages of coming to terms with the notion of the punch-bowl running dry. That’s why watching the reaction, both official and institutional, to these minuscule corrections to long-standing trends will be an important guide going forward. "

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As usual then, manipulation.
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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Stooo » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:24 pm

But her emails dammit!

I posted about the DOW dropping by 666 last Friday but there was a load of bollocks going on about some stupid and rubbish memo that meant nothing.

HER EMAILS, NEVER FORGET!

Whatever... :woteva:
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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:25 pm

World’s Financial System is the ‘Most Stretched Since 2008’, Warns OECD Economist


The world financial system is as dangerously stretched today as it was at the peak of the last bubble but this time the authorities are caught in a ‘policy trap’ with few defences left, a veteran central banker has warned.

Nine years of emergency money has had a string of perverse effects and lured emerging markets into debt dependency, without addressing the structural causes of the global disorder.

“All the market indicators right now look very similar to what we saw before the Lehman crisis, but the lesson has somehow been forgotten,” said William White, the Swiss-based head of the OECD’s review board and ex-chief economist for the Bank for International Settlements.

This time central banks are holding a particularly ferocious tiger by the tail. Global debt ratios have surged by a further 51 percentage points of GDP since the Lehman crisis, reaching a record 327 per cent (IIF data).

This is a new phenomenon in economic history and can be tracked to QE liquidity leakage from the West, which flooded East Asia, Latin America, and other emerging markets, with a huge push from China pursuing its own venture. “Central banks have been pouring more fuel on the fire,” he told The Daily Telegraph, speaking before the World Economic Forum in Davos.

“Should regulators really be congratulating themselves that the system is now safer? Nobody knows what is going to happen when they unwind QE. The markets had better be very careful because there are a lot of fracture points out there,” he said.

“Pharmaceutical companies are subject to laws forcing them to test for unintended consequences before they launch a drug, but central banks launched the huge social experiment of QE with carelessly little thought about the side-effects,” he said.
The global fall-out could be violent. Credit in dollars beyond U.S. jurisdiction has risen fivefold in 15 years to over $10 trillion. “This is a very big number. As soon as the world gets into trouble, a lot of people are going to have trouble servicing that dollar debt,” said White. Borrowers would suffer the double shock of a rising dollar, and rising rates.
Central banks are now caught in a “debt trap.” They cannot hold rates near zero as inflation pressures build, but they cannot easily raise rates either because it risks blowing up the system. “It is frankly scary,” said White.

Much more here >>>>> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48723.htm
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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Fletch » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:26 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Yes lot of pointers to a massive crash due .... now.
We didn't deal with the last one beyond printing up rolls of wallpaper to cover the cracks.
This time round we've run out of tricks.
It could get quite scary.


Now they're taking away the wallpaper to reveal the cracks. The dollar has been on the slide for a while now and the petro yuan is up and running. Not favourable to the US so it's either war or a collapse that leads to civil war.

Petro-Yuan Looms - How China Will Shake Up The Oil Futures Market

When Will Trading Begin?

According to the Shanghai-based news portal Jiemian, which cited an unidentified person from a futures company, trading is expected to start Jan. 18. Multiple rounds of testing have been carried out and all listing requirements met. The State Council, China’s cabinet, was said to have given its approval in December, one of the final regulatory hurdles. The push for oil futures gained impetus in 2017 when China surpassed the U.S. as the world’s biggest crude importer.

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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Avon Barksdale » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:27 pm

There was a piece in the Guardian about how there are similar market conditions to 1987 when Reagan was in power.

So yeah, there may be some pain on the way...
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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Fletch » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:30 pm

Stooo wrote:But her emails dammit!

I posted about the DOW dropping by 666 last Friday but there was a load of bollocks going on about some stupid and rubbish memo that meant nothing.

HER EMAILS, NEVER FORGET!

Whatever... :woteva:


You accept the law breaking Clinton, who hosted classified emails on her own private server, shared them with Huma who had no clearance to see them then deleted them, bleachbit her hard drive and then they smashed blackeberry's up with a hammer to avoid being found out, was in the wrong?
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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Lionel Jesse » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:35 pm

Far to early to be discussing a potential crash.

If when looked at year on year it may be something concerning, but for now it appears that the market is settling down after quite a long run of highs. It seems this was largely expected too.
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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Fletch » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:38 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:World’s Financial System is the ‘Most Stretched Since 2008’, Warns OECD Economist


The world financial system is as dangerously stretched today as it was at the peak of the last bubble but this time the authorities are caught in a ‘policy trap’ with few defences left, a veteran central banker has warned.

Nine years of emergency money has had a string of perverse effects and lured emerging markets into debt dependency, without addressing the structural causes of the global disorder.

“All the market indicators right now look very similar to what we saw before the Lehman crisis, but the lesson has somehow been forgotten,” said William White, the Swiss-based head of the OECD’s review board and ex-chief economist for the Bank for International Settlements.

This time central banks are holding a particularly ferocious tiger by the tail. Global debt ratios have surged by a further 51 percentage points of GDP since the Lehman crisis, reaching a record 327 per cent (IIF data).

This is a new phenomenon in economic history and can be tracked to QE liquidity leakage from the West, which flooded East Asia, Latin America, and other emerging markets, with a huge push from China pursuing its own venture. “Central banks have been pouring more fuel on the fire,” he told The Daily Telegraph, speaking before the World Economic Forum in Davos.

“Should regulators really be congratulating themselves that the system is now safer? Nobody knows what is going to happen when they unwind QE. The markets had better be very careful because there are a lot of fracture points out there,” he said.

“Pharmaceutical companies are subject to laws forcing them to test for unintended consequences before they launch a drug, but central banks launched the huge social experiment of QE with carelessly little thought about the side-effects,” he said.
The global fall-out could be violent. Credit in dollars beyond U.S. jurisdiction has risen fivefold in 15 years to over $10 trillion. “This is a very big number. As soon as the world gets into trouble, a lot of people are going to have trouble servicing that dollar debt,” said White. Borrowers would suffer the double shock of a rising dollar, and rising rates.
Central banks are now caught in a “debt trap.” They cannot hold rates near zero as inflation pressures build, but they cannot easily raise rates either because it risks blowing up the system. “It is frankly scary,” said White.

Much more here >>>>> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48723.htm


They only need stop pumping central bank money in to the system for it to collapse, that's without raising interest rates or trying to unwind qe. I saw an article about mobile phone sales slumping for the first time. The never ending 'upgrade because it is shiny' may have ran it's course. High property costs (rent and mortgage) along with western austerity has left countries with populations saddled with high debts and no hope of improving their position in the near future. Tipping point is near, if not this time then not long.
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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:43 pm

Lionel Jesse wrote:Far to early to be discussing a potential crash.

If when looked at year on year it may be something concerning, but for now it appears that the market is settling down after quite a long run of highs. It seems this was largely expected too.

But it's all running on credit.
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Re: Markets Crash?

Postby Fletch » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:47 pm

Lionel Jesse wrote:Far to early to be discussing a potential crash.

If when looked at year on year it may be something concerning, but for now it appears that the market is settling down after quite a long run of highs. It seems this was largely expected too.


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