CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Postby Cannydc » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:39 pm

Church of England spending on issues relating to sexual abuse has increased fivefold since 2014 and the most recent figures show it is facing more than 3,300 allegations.

The disclosures come as the church prepares to face intense scrutiny by the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (IICSA), which starts hearing evidence next month.

“This will not be an easy couple of years – we will hear deeply painful accounts of abuse, of poor response, of ‘cover-up’. We will … feel a deep sense of shame,” Peter Hancock, the bishop of Bath and Wells and the C of E’s lead bishop on safeguarding, told the general synod in London.

Many survivors of clerical sexual abuse “remain deeply mistrustful, suspicious and angry towards the church,” he said.

The C of E said that in 2016 it was dealing with more than 3,300 reports of sexual abuse within its parishes, the vast majority relating to “children, young people and vulnerable adults within church communities”.

Almost one in five of the reports were made against clergy and other church officials, with the rest relating to other members of the congregation who volunteer within the church.


So, no real surprise that it isn't just the Catlicks at it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... res-reveal
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Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:48 pm

There's no such thing as a nice guy. All guys have urges and kidding ourselves that they don't is harmful.
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Postby Guest » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:55 pm

Here are the odds

Comments about Catholics - Evens
Comments about Jews - 5:1
Comments about Muslims 1:10

The odds that comments accepting that people in a position of trust over children should be subject to transparent checks in all cases regardless of their race, religion or culture will called leftist, politically correct or Muslim loving - no bets being taken that's a given
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Postby Mekon » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:05 pm

God is a chameleon. All earlier incarnations are inferior to the last.
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Postby calitom » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:56 pm

pedophiles go to where access to children is. So every church,synagogue, school, youth sports team,day care,youth music group etc etc etc etc should screen its people thoroughly.
the horror of it -beyond the horror of the crime---is that the vast majority of the people in authority--who are innocent--get tarred with the same brush. So evil not only harms the children and their families but also harms the institutions. Religion haters(not all) glom onto these incodents in order to bash entire churches.And its usually the catholic church because they are the big kid on the block.
Its a nightmare additionally because now anyone accused of pedophilia is considered guilty.
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Postby Mekon » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:00 pm

And He called a child to Himself and set him before them.

Matthew 18:2-6
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Postby Trapper John » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:55 pm

calitom wrote:pedophiles go to where access to children is. So every church,synagogue, school, youth sports team,day care,youth music group etc etc etc etc should screen its people thoroughly.
the horror of it -beyond the horror of the crime---is that the vast majority of the people in authority--who are innocent--get tarred with the same brush. So evil not only harms the children and their families but also harms the institutions. Religion haters(not all) glom onto these incodents in order to bash entire churches.And its usually the catholic church because they are the big kid on the block.
Its a nightmare additionally because now anyone accused of pedophilia is considered guilty.


If only it were that simple, many people join these organisations before they become paedophiles, it's not just previously abused people who become paedophiles nor are you destined to become one if you have been.
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Postby Trapper John » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:59 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:There's no such thing as a nice guy. All guys have urges and kidding ourselves that they don't is harmful.


Thats not strictly true or even remotely. :shake head:

A nice guy will put whatever bad thoughts he has about doing things he knows are wrong, whatever they might be, into his conscience box and there they will remain forever, never seeing the light of day. :thumbsup:
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Postby Guest » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:07 am

Some would call it christianphobic to call out these abusers for what they are, but it doesn't condemn paedophelia in the bible so it's probably ok (in their minds) according to their warped agenda's. :pukeup:
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Postby calitom » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:50 am

Trapper John wrote:
calitom wrote:pedophiles go to where access to children is. So every church,synagogue, school, youth sports team,day care,youth music group etc etc etc etc should screen its people thoroughly.
the horror of it -beyond the horror of the crime---is that the vast majority of the people in authority--who are innocent--get tarred with the same brush. So evil not only harms the children and their families but also harms the institutions. Religion haters(not all) glom onto these incodents in order to bash entire churches.And its usually the catholic church because they are the big kid on the block.
Its a nightmare additionally because now anyone accused of pedophilia is considered guilty.


If only it were that simple, many people join these organisations before they become paedophiles, it's not just previously abused people who become paedophiles nor are you destined to become one if you have been.


what are u talking about??? my statement is absolutely true. pedos go where they have access to kids. that is not arguable.
and where the hell did i talk about previously abused people?? i never mentioned that.
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Postby calitom » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:53 am

Guest wrote:Some would call it christianphobic to call out these abusers for what they are, but it doesn't condemn paedophelia in the bible so it's probably ok (in their minds) according to their warped agenda's. :pukeup:


not everything has to be spelled out in the bible for christians or any rational people to know that it is right or wrong.
it doesnt CONDEMN pedophilia in the bible???? where does it even mention it? you make it soubnd like it is discussed without condemnation.
grow a brain....or quit being a lazy,troll...
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Postby Rolluplostinspace » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:56 am

Close down these state religions.
How they think they can serve the state and the God they profess to worship is beyond me.
All their holy books agree that it isn't possible.
The Church of England and its offshoots are all offshoots of Catholicism and they all have tax free status.
The tax free status should be removed like yesterday and then the dismantling of organised religion should start.
You want to pray sing praises etc then do it.
But to invoke tax status and state positions really needs to be scrapped.
Easier to say than do though.
The German people mostly protestant I think found out a few years ago that I think two percent of certain taxes go directly .... collected for them by the German government .... go directly to the Vatican.
Uproar!
It's billions.
Buried by the media as fast as possible and it hasn't seen the light of day since.
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Postby Guest » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:01 am

calitom wrote:
Guest wrote:Some would call it christianphobic to call out these abusers for what they are, but it doesn't condemn paedophelia in the bible so it's probably ok (in their minds) according to their warped agenda's. :pukeup:


not everything has to be spelled out in the bible for christians or any rational people to know that it is right or wrong.
it doesnt CONDEMN pedophilia in the bible???? where does it even mention it? you make it soubnd like it is discussed without condemnation.
grow a brain....or quit being a lazy,troll...


I can't understand why it wasn't mentioned as wrong in the bible, when it's been going on since the beginnings of time.

It mentions that wearing clothes of mixed fibres as wrong, seems like that was more of a sin than child abuse then.
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Postby Rolluplostinspace » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:07 am

Guest wrote:
calitom wrote:
Guest wrote:Some would call it christianphobic to call out these abusers for what they are, but it doesn't condemn paedophelia in the bible so it's probably ok (in their minds) according to their warped agenda's. :pukeup:


not everything has to be spelled out in the bible for christians or any rational people to know that it is right or wrong.
it doesnt CONDEMN pedophilia in the bible???? where does it even mention it? you make it soubnd like it is discussed without condemnation.
grow a brain....or quit being a lazy,troll...


I can't understand why it wasn't mentioned as wrong in the bible, when it's been going on since the beginnings of time.

It mentions that wearing clothes of mixed fibres as wrong, seems like that was more of a sin than child abuse then.

It says sex outside marriage is wrong so maybe that covers it.
Doesn't say a lot about that either though.
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Postby Lady Murasaki » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:13 am

Trapper John wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:There's no such thing as a nice guy. All guys have urges and kidding ourselves that they don't is harmful.


Thats not strictly true or even remotely. :shake head:

A nice guy will put whatever bad thoughts he has about doing things he knows are wrong, whatever they might be, into his conscience box and there they will remain forever, never seeing the light of day. :thumbsup:


Well I would say you're completely wrong in the context of this thread. The abusers referred to here are believed to be 'nice guys' who clearly haven't kept it in their conscience box.
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