Thousands Of Disabled People Killed By Barbaric Tory Austeri

Re: Thousands Of Disabled People Killed By Barbaric Tory Austeri

Postby Jay Jay » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:10 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Jay Jay wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Jay Jay wrote:Not a peep from the resident Mail readers or Tories.
Now why is that? :hand:

Because the believe as someone said before that anyone on benefits is a scrounger and having life to easy.


Yeah like they all have flat screen tvs - when they can't buy the old style. :leer:

Mugs who read the Mail should do some voting test before voting.

How much has the National Debt increased since 2010 type of questions.
Yes it will mean about 15 million votes will be lost - most of them Tory votes funnily enough.


It's way more than that because they forgot the cost of appeals. :thud:

Lots of Tory policies are false economy policies.
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Re: Thousands Of Disabled People Killed By Barbaric Tory Austeri

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:19 pm

When I was in Llandudno the other day I went in Maplins.
Got talking to a member of staff and asked when it was closing its doors.
He didn't know as no date given yet.
He said the job centre was looming after working for Maplin a dozen years.
Been on courses to get as much knowledge as possible.
There is no other business on the high st or anywhere else quite like it so all that knowledge adds up to not very much now.
So he said he's looking at the unemployment office and the sanctions that go with it and the though is so very depressing.
I had to agree with him.
Just think a hard working bloke puts the effort in whilst working to learn a much as possible about his trade and now it's time to be punished by the Tory governments lackies .... many of who are losing their jobs too in job centres across the land.
This guy can and will be sneered at by his neighbours and other working class paople who still have a job such is the nature of our lives now shaped by this austerity bollox.
Blame the victims.
To make matters worse people will be able to point how how this scrounger has a number of modern tv's in the house and computers and other high tech stuff.
That's if he can keep his house.
Mortgage problems looming.
There's not a lot of work in Llandudno.
This could be a guy heading for expensive private renting then the street and a broken family.
So you people who still have a job .... think on before condemning the unemployed.
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Re: Thousands Of Disabled People Killed By Barbaric Tory Austeri

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:23 pm

Jay Jay wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Jay Jay wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Jay Jay wrote:Not a peep from the resident Mail readers or Tories.
Now why is that? :hand:

Because the believe as someone said before that anyone on benefits is a scrounger and having life to easy.


Yeah like they all have flat screen tvs - when they can't buy the old style. :leer:

Mugs who read the Mail should do some voting test before voting.

How much has the National Debt increased since 2010 type of questions.
Yes it will mean about 15 million votes will be lost - most of them Tory votes funnily enough.


It's way more than that because they forgot the cost of appeals. :thud:

Lots of Tory policies are false economy policies.

A Senior Judge Has Suggested Charging The Government For Every "No-Brainer" Benefits Case It Loses In Court
Sir Ernest Ryder, senior president of tribunals, said the quality of evidence provided by the Department for Work and Pensions is so poor it would be “wholly inadmissible” in any other court.

Speaking at a Bar Council event attended by BuzzFeed News this week, Ryder said his judges found that 60% of cases were “no-brainers” where there was nothing in the law or facts that would make the DWP win.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/emilydugan/mos ... .kimxKqePo
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Re: Thousands Of Disabled People Killed By Barbaric Tory Austeri

Postby Jay Jay » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:25 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:When I was in Llandudno the other day I went in Maplins.
Got talking to a member of staff and asked when it was closing its doors.
He didn't know as no date given yet.
He said the job centre was looming after working for Maplin a dozen years.
Been on courses to get as much knowledge as possible.
There is no other business on the high st or anywhere else quite like it so all that knowledge adds up to not very much now.
So he said he's looking at the unemployment office and the sanctions that go with it and the though is so very depressing.
I had to agree with him.
Just think a hard working bloke puts the effort in whilst working to learn a much as possible about his trade and now it's time to be punished by the Tory governments lackies .... many of who are losing their jobs too in job centres across the land.
This guy can and will be sneered at by his neighbours and other working class paople who still have a job such is the nature of our lives now shaped by this austerity bollox.
Blame the victims.
To make matters worse people will be able to point how how this scrounger has a number of modern tv's in the house and computers and other high tech stuff.
That's if he can keep his house.
Mortgage problems looming.
There's not a lot of work in Llandudno.
This could be a guy heading for expensive private renting then the street and a broken family.
So you people who still have a job .... think on before condemning the unemployed.


Mentalist Tories like Mal, Roc etc refuse to believe that hard working people are losing their jobs.
Working hard meant you would be rich or so the Mail and Tories told them.

Then you get the Mungobrushes who want Socialist intervention policies but despise Labour, which has returned to its Socialist roots.

They morons are allowed to vote FFS.

Thanks to Socialists... :brickwall:
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Re: Thousands Of Disabled People Killed By Barbaric Tory Austeri

Postby Jay Jay » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:30 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Jay Jay wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Jay Jay wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Because the believe as someone said before that anyone on benefits is a scrounger and having life to easy.


Yeah like they all have flat screen tvs - when they can't buy the old style. :leer:

Mugs who read the Mail should do some voting test before voting.

How much has the National Debt increased since 2010 type of questions.
Yes it will mean about 15 million votes will be lost - most of them Tory votes funnily enough.


It's way more than that because they forgot the cost of appeals. :thud:

Lots of Tory policies are false economy policies.

A Senior Judge Has Suggested Charging The Government For Every "No-Brainer" Benefits Case It Loses In Court
Sir Ernest Ryder, senior president of tribunals, said the quality of evidence provided by the Department for Work and Pensions is so poor it would be “wholly inadmissible” in any other court.

Speaking at a Bar Council event attended by BuzzFeed News this week, Ryder said his judges found that 60% of cases were “no-brainers” where there was nothing in the law or facts that would make the DWP win.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/emilydugan/mos ... .kimxKqePo


Every MP of whatever colour rosette should be surcharged for a massive fuck up.
As most Tories are multi-millionaires it would bring them down a peg or two.
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Re: Thousands Of Disabled People Killed By Barbaric Tory Austeri

Postby Guest » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:32 pm

The cost-cutting agenda behind moving tribunal hearings online has been further exposed in new regulations which will to allow ministers and senior judges to cut the number of people sitting on panels, including social security appeal tribunals.

The First-tier Tribunal and Upper Tribunal (Composition of Tribunal) (Amendment) Order 2018 allows the Senior President of Tribunals (SPT) to decide on the number of panel members for any type of tribunal.

In addition, in the future the SPT has to first consult with a government minister before making any decision.

The government claim that the aim is to make “the use of tribunal panel members should be more tailored and flexible”.

The fear is that the aim is simply to cut costs by ensuring that the vast majority of tribunals have only a judge sitting alone.

At present ESA tribunals have a medical member as well as a judge. PIP and DLA tribunals have a judge, a medical member and a person with specialist knowledge of disability issues.

Under the new rules the SPT could decide that all social security hearings would be heard by a judge sitting alone, with a medical member only in special cases. The use of a disability specialist could be dropped altogether.

Many Benefits and Work readers will be able to tell tales of medical members, and even disability members, of panels who behaved in a distrustful and even hostile manner, whilst the judge appeared to be fair and sympathetic.

But it is equally the case that it is often the medical member who points out flaws in the evidence collected in the face-to-face assessment.

And disability members frequently ask questions touching on the daily lives of claimants which help to make clear the real difficulties they face with everyday activities.

A judge sitting alone may have no lived experience of disability and lack any knowledge of the medical condition at issue.

It is hard to see how there can be any advantage to claimants in reducing the number or range of people sitting on PIP, ESA or DLA appeal panels. But the cost advantages to the government are clear.

More details about the changes to the regulations can be found on the parliament website.
https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/ ... go-digital


:shake head:
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Re: Thousands Of Disabled People Killed By Barbaric Tory Austeri

Postby Jay Jay » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:39 pm

Guest wrote:The cost-cutting agenda behind moving tribunal hearings online has been further exposed in new regulations which will to allow ministers and senior judges to cut the number of people sitting on panels, including social security appeal tribunals.

The First-tier Tribunal and Upper Tribunal (Composition of Tribunal) (Amendment) Order 2018 allows the Senior President of Tribunals (SPT) to decide on the number of panel members for any type of tribunal.

In addition, in the future the SPT has to first consult with a government minister before making any decision.

The government claim that the aim is to make “the use of tribunal panel members should be more tailored and flexible”.

The fear is that the aim is simply to cut costs by ensuring that the vast majority of tribunals have only a judge sitting alone.

At present ESA tribunals have a medical member as well as a judge. PIP and DLA tribunals have a judge, a medical member and a person with specialist knowledge of disability issues.

Under the new rules the SPT could decide that all social security hearings would be heard by a judge sitting alone, with a medical member only in special cases. The use of a disability specialist could be dropped altogether.

Many Benefits and Work readers will be able to tell tales of medical members, and even disability members, of panels who behaved in a distrustful and even hostile manner, whilst the judge appeared to be fair and sympathetic.

But it is equally the case that it is often the medical member who points out flaws in the evidence collected in the face-to-face assessment.

And disability members frequently ask questions touching on the daily lives of claimants which help to make clear the real difficulties they face with everyday activities.

A judge sitting alone may have no lived experience of disability and lack any knowledge of the medical condition at issue.

It is hard to see how there can be any advantage to claimants in reducing the number or range of people sitting on PIP, ESA or DLA appeal panels. But the cost advantages to the government are clear.

More details about the changes to the regulations can be found on the parliament website.
https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/ ... go-digital


:shake head:


I'm sure Mad Mal or RocTheMug will be along to blame Corbyn or Labour. :shake head:
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