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Re: NHS

Postby Cannydc » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:43 pm

Markey mark wrote:After my scare last year and the waiting times to see either your doctor or specialist, I gone private , with nhs it’s not that they haven’t got the staff , but it’s the countless amount of people moving to this country that put a massive strain on our nhs ,


Yes it is. They are currently tens of thousands of nurses short alone. Altogether 100,000 staff short !!

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... son-survey

And no it isn't.

Especially given that there are tens of thousands of 'people who moved to this country' actually working as doctors, nurses and ancilliary staff in the NHS. 62,000 NHS staff are EU nationals. 77,000 are from other non-EU countries.

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-7783
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Re: NHS

Postby Guest » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:32 pm

Cannydc wrote:
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Cannydc wrote:No mention of COST in that lovely little tale.

A cost that tens of millions of Americans simply cannot afford, as there is a massive profit margin built into their system, exaggerated by over-diagnosis and prescriptions.




I have the best Health Insurance money can buy. And you know why I have it?
Because I earned it. I didn't come here and sit on my arse and expect others to pay for me. I didn't look for handouts I arrived on these shores with a couple of grand in my pocket saved from working in the UK. And the funny thing is I know people of all sizes and colours and every one of them is the same as me. They came here as legal immigrants and all worked for what they have and all have good health insurance. Not once has any of them said they were held back from achieving the American dream.
There are plenty of illegals here who work hard to have a better life for their families and then there are those who cheat the system and steal what ever they can. As do plenty Of Lazy useless Americans who are white, black, yellow, brown. The colour doesn't really matter. It's work ethic and attitude that does.


You have it because you have the privelege of being able to afford it.

Lucky you.

The fact that you care not a jot for those who can't neither surprises nor amazes me.





Can you explain how working hard at a company that I started and built up and can now afford things like health insurance is a PRIVILEGE?
Being handed free shit because some do gooder who puts the least amount possible into the pot Is Privelege.
When I took out Private health care in the UK. I still had to pay NI.
And from someone who travels to poor foreign countries to meet child brides flogged off to old fat white privileged men really has no right to comment. on Abusing something
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Re: NHS

Postby Didge » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:37 pm

Actually immigration is in part causing a rise in the number of people using hospitals

Two main groups more than any. The elderly and the young based on their vunerability to illness. Creates a rise in the number of people using hospitals

We have an aging population, which by 2050, will have a quarter of the population over 65.

We are also seeing record numbers of babies born and a huge number of these are from immigrants.

So immigration with high birth rates will see hospitals struggling to cope. As young children are vunerable to illness.
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Re: NHS

Postby Jay Jay » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:44 pm

Why did May and Rudd let so many elderly in when they had the opt out in 2011?
They let immigrants in then blame them.
Cunts.
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Re: NHS

Postby Grafenwalder » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:35 pm

Guest wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
Guest wrote:
Cannydc wrote:No mention of COST in that lovely little tale.

A cost that tens of millions of Americans simply cannot afford, as there is a massive profit margin built into their system, exaggerated by over-diagnosis and prescriptions.




I have the best Health Insurance money can buy. And you know why I have it?
Because I earned it. I didn't come here and sit on my arse and expect others to pay for me. I didn't look for handouts I arrived on these shores with a couple of grand in my pocket saved from working in the UK. And the funny thing is I know people of all sizes and colours and every one of them is the same as me. They came here as legal immigrants and all worked for what they have and all have good health insurance. Not once has any of them said they were held back from achieving the American dream.

Then as an ex-pat Brit you should also know your NHS treatment didn't come free. You paid into the system like every other tax paying citizen does, the main difference being the NHS doesn't discriminate against those unable to contribute for whatever reason. Yes there will always be a minority of idlers who don't want to work...that's why we need citizens from EU countries who will work and contribute.

People here work bloody hard for what they have but some are more fortunate than others. The NHS is there for all...not just those with money though unfortunately it's long been abused by private healthcare using NHS facilities where they should be fucked off and forced to maintain their own 'in house' services kept entirely seperate from the NHS.


There are plenty of illegals here who work hard to have a better life for their families and then there are those who cheat the system and steal what ever they can. As do plenty Of Lazy useless Americans who are white, black, yellow, brown. The colour doesn't really matter. It's work ethic and attitude that does.

We know...Trump employed undocumented labour to build his gross slabs and then refused to pay them. :wink:



Few things, 1) I paid for private health care in the UK because I didn't want to use the NHS hospitals, but the funny thing is it was NHS doctors I always seen by on the main.
2) My ability to go private had nothing to do with being fortunate. I worked the hours and worked hard for my money My bosses never paid me because they were kind generous human beings who wanted to share their money with me.
3) so the skyscrapers of Manhattan are dross slabs? lol or just the ones Trump built?
I think millions of tourists who walk around looking up prove you wrong. Ask anyone who has ever been to NYC and they will all say the sky scrapers are amazing.
And did I miss something or are there no illegals working in the uk then?
I seem to remember 9 illegals dying because they drowned digging for cockles on a British beach. Was Trump to blame for that as well?

1) Nothing 'funny' about being seen by NHS doctors as a private patient here as some NHS Doctors/Consultants offer private consultations. What i object to is the use (abuse) by the private patient having operations done in NHS hospitals with NHS equipment. They should fuck you off to your private hospital for you operations.......but then you'd be up shite creek as they don't have the vast range of surgical operating equipment available which is why you 'queue jump' in the NHS.

2) Wow....so you "worked hard for your money" yet were "never paid" (something doesn't quite compute there!!) but had "kind generous human beings" for bosses who "shared their money" with you! Yeah.....right. Next you'll be telling us you're Mother Theresa!

3) Gross was the description i used, not dross. Yes pig ugly though Trump takes 'pig ugly' to another level in overt displays of tacky gaudiness!

4) Instead of attempting to justify Trump employing undocumented labour (illegals) and not paying them, to the Chinese criminal who rightly got sentenced to 14 years for manslaughter and employing illegals then deported back to China, you should be asking why Trump escaped sentence for employing undocumented workers and not paying them. As if that wasn't bad enough he imported the steel from China to build his tat because it was cheaper than US steel!!

Deport Tango man to the moon. On second thoughts deport him to the sun as he'd blend in better there.
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Re: NHS

Postby Fred Couples » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:38 pm

He's on a Florida golf course as we speak
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Re: NHS

Postby Guest » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:33 pm

Fred Couples wrote:He's on a Florida golf course as we speak




I don't get the trump haters, they should be happy that he spends his time playing golf. It seems they'd rather have him in the whitehouse.
One daft cunt on here complains about him Hiring illegals, and then wants to deport Trump lol
What you all don't seem to understand is that all white people are racists because of their heritage and white privilege. And no matter how much you protest and claim otherwise. None white people view you this way. It's the society we live in today
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