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[MungoBrush]

Some countries who actually have a socialist economic structure.

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

Just in case you really believe there aren't any....

If you want to have a proper debate about Socialism, then first you need to understand what it is.

"A Socialist country is a country where the government or the public as a whole has control over the economy. In a socialist country, the producing and dispersing of goods is owned by the government."

Only one of the countries you have listed could possibly be classified as Socialist

However, if you want to continue to regurgitate garbage from whatever ratbag web sites you visit, go ahead.

[Guest]

Some countries who actually have a socialist economic structure.

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

Just in case you really believe there aren't any....

If you want to have a proper debate about Socialism, then first you need to understand what it is.

"A Socialist country is a country where the government or the public as a whole has control over the economy. In a socialist country, the producing and dispersing of goods is owned by the government."

Only one of the countries you have listed could possibly be classified as Socialist

However, if you want to continue to regurgitate garbage from whatever ratbag web sites you visit, go ahead.

Maybe one should quote Socialist states that aren't sanctioned by capitalist states instead of always misquoting, moronically, Venezuela.
Btw Do you support the openly Fascist opposition parties supported by White Supremacists in the White House? Just wondering.
Do you support Fascists murdering Socialists in VZ? Just wondering.

[MungoBrush]

Some countries who actually have a socialist economic structure.

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

Just in case you really believe there aren't any....

If you want to have a proper debate about Socialism, then first you need to understand what it is.

"A Socialist country is a country where the government or the public as a whole has control over the economy. In a socialist country, the producing and dispersing of goods is owned by the government."

Only one of the countries you have listed could possibly be classified as Socialist

However, if you want to continue to regurgitate garbage from whatever ratbag web sites you visit, go ahead.

Do you support Fascists murdering Socialists in VZ? Just wondering.

Do you support the mass murder of 10's of millions of dissenters in Socialist states?

"The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge.
The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.
There have also been killings on a smaller scale in North Korea, Vietnam, and some Eastern European and African countries."

[Cannydc]

Some countries who actually have a socialist economic structure.

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

Just in case you really believe there aren't any....

If you want to have a proper debate about Socialism, then first you need to understand what it is.

"A Socialist country is a country where the government or the public as a whole has control over the economy. In a socialist country, the producing and dispersing of goods is owned by the government."

Only one of the countries you have listed could possibly be classified as Socialist

However, if you want to continue to regurgitate garbage from whatever ratbag web sites you visit, go ahead.

Thanks, but your definition is rather more Communism than Socialism. Clearly you don't appreciate the vast difference, and have probably been polluted with the commonly held view in America that anyone to the left of Attilla the Hun is a red under the bed commie.

Denmark has a wide range of welfare benefits that they offer their citizens. As a result, they also have the highest taxes in the world. Equality is considered the most important value in Denmark. Small businesses thrive, with over 70 percent of companies having 50 employees or less.

Finland has one of the world’s best education systems, with no tuition fees and also giving free meals to their students. The literacy rate in Finland is 100 percent. Finland has one of the highest standards of living in the world. Like Denmark and other European countries, equality is considered one of the most important values in society.

Canada also has mostly a free market economy, but has a very extensive welfare system that includes free health and medical care. Canadians remain more open-minded and liberal than Americans

Sweden has a large welfare system, but due to a high national debt, required much government intervention in the economy.

Ireland has arguably one of the best welfare systems in the world, with unemployment checks higher on average than Denmark or Switzerland’s average. Around 25 percent of Ireland’s GDP goes towards paying for the welfare system.

New Zealand - the welfare system in the country is very wide ranging, offering support for housing, unemployment, health, child care, and education as well. Therefore, New Zealand has many of the characteristics of a socialist country, even while remaining officially free market.

Belgium has most of the same social security benefits that New Zealand offers, including invalid and old age pensions. The welfare system causes much of the country’s budget deficit though, and so is considered by some to be a burden on society.

[MungoBrush]

Some countries who actually have a socialist economic structure.

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

Just in case you really believe there aren't any....

If you want to have a proper debate about Socialism, then first you need to understand what it is.

"A Socialist country is a country where the government or the public as a whole has control over the economy. In a socialist country, the producing and dispersing of goods is owned by the government."

Only one of the countries you have listed could possibly be classified as Socialist

However, if you want to continue to regurgitate garbage from whatever ratbag web sites you visit, go ahead.

Thanks, but your definition is rather more Communism than Socialism. Clearly you don't appreciate the vast difference, and have probably been polluted with the commonly held view in America that anyone to the left of Attilla the Hun is a red under the bed commie.

Denmark has a wide range of welfare benefits that they offer their citizens. As a result, they also have the highest taxes in the world. Equality is considered the most important value in Denmark. Small businesses thrive, with over 70 percent of companies having 50 employees or less.

Finland has one of the world’s best education systems, with no tuition fees and also giving free meals to their students. The literacy rate in Finland is 100 percent. Finland has one of the highest standards of living in the world. Like Denmark and other European countries, equality is considered one of the most important values in society.

Canada also has mostly a free market economy, but has a very extensive welfare system that includes free health and medical care. Canadians remain more open-minded and liberal than Americans

Sweden has a large welfare system, but due to a high national debt, required much government intervention in the economy.

Ireland has arguably one of the best welfare systems in the world, with unemployment checks higher on average than Denmark or Switzerland’s average. Around 25 percent of Ireland’s GDP goes towards paying for the welfare system.

New Zealand - the welfare system in the country is very wide ranging, offering support for housing, unemployment, health, child care, and education as well. Therefore, New Zealand has many of the characteristics of a socialist country, even while remaining officially free market.

Belgium has most of the same social security benefits that New Zealand offers, including invalid and old age pensions. The welfare system causes much of the country’s budget deficit though, and so is considered by some to be a burden on society.

So according to your definition, a "Socialist" country is any country that gives away more free handouts than the UK
Well your definition is not supported by any authoritative literature.

[Guest]

Some countries who actually have a socialist economic structure.

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

Just in case you really believe there aren't any....

If you want to have a proper debate about Socialism, then first you need to understand what it is.

"A Socialist country is a country where the government or the public as a whole has control over the economy. In a socialist country, the producing and dispersing of goods is owned by the government."

Only one of the countries you have listed could possibly be classified as Socialist

However, if you want to continue to regurgitate garbage from whatever ratbag web sites you visit, go ahead.

Do you support Fascists murdering Socialists in VZ? Just wondering.

Do you support the mass murder of 10's of millions of dissenters in Socialist states?

"The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge.
The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.
There have also been killings on a smaller scale in North Korea, Vietnam, and some Eastern European and African countries."

Cunts tend to edit posts.
Mayesque behaviour.
Bravo.
Not all Socialists are Communists, far from it.
Are Syndicalists Communists?

So No I don't support mass murder by Stalinist states.

I notice that you didn't have the balls to answer my questions or defend May's hopeless handling of immigration since 2010.
How many deaths have Syndicalists been responsible for?
How many wars and deaths have capitalists been responsible for?
Do you light a candle for Hiroshima victims?

[Guest]

Some countries who actually have a socialist economic structure.

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

Just in case you really believe there aren't any....

If you want to have a proper debate about Socialism, then first you need to understand what it is.

"A Socialist country is a country where the government or the public as a whole has control over the economy. In a socialist country, the producing and dispersing of goods is owned by the government."

Only one of the countries you have listed could possibly be classified as Socialist

However, if you want to continue to regurgitate garbage from whatever ratbag web sites you visit, go ahead.

Thanks, but your definition is rather more Communism than Socialism. Clearly you don't appreciate the vast difference, and have probably been polluted with the commonly held view in America that anyone to the left of Attilla the Hun is a red under the bed commie.

Denmark has a wide range of welfare benefits that they offer their citizens. As a result, they also have the highest taxes in the world. Equality is considered the most important value in Denmark. Small businesses thrive, with over 70 percent of companies having 50 employees or less.

Finland has one of the world’s best education systems, with no tuition fees and also giving free meals to their students. The literacy rate in Finland is 100 percent. Finland has one of the highest standards of living in the world. Like Denmark and other European countries, equality is considered one of the most important values in society.

Canada also has mostly a free market economy, but has a very extensive welfare system that includes free health and medical care. Canadians remain more open-minded and liberal than Americans

Sweden has a large welfare system, but due to a high national debt, required much government intervention in the economy.

Ireland has arguably one of the best welfare systems in the world, with unemployment checks higher on average than Denmark or Switzerland’s average. Around 25 percent of Ireland’s GDP goes towards paying for the welfare system.

New Zealand - the welfare system in the country is very wide ranging, offering support for housing, unemployment, health, child care, and education as well. Therefore, New Zealand has many of the characteristics of a socialist country, even while remaining officially free market.

Belgium has most of the same social security benefits that New Zealand offers, including invalid and old age pensions. The welfare system causes much of the country’s budget deficit though, and so is considered by some to be a burden on society.

So according to your definition, a "Socialist" country is any country that gives away more free handouts than the UK
Well your definition is not supported by any authoritative literature.

So according to your definition, a "Socialist" country is any country that is Stalinist.
Well your definition is not supported by any authoritative literature.

[MungoBrush]

Some countries who actually have a socialist economic structure.

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

Just in case you really believe there aren't any....

If you want to have a proper debate about Socialism, then first you need to understand what it is.

"A Socialist country is a country where the government or the public as a whole has control over the economy. In a socialist country, the producing and dispersing of goods is owned by the government."

Only one of the countries you have listed could possibly be classified as Socialist

However, if you want to continue to regurgitate garbage from whatever ratbag web sites you visit, go ahead.

Thanks, but your definition is rather more Communism than Socialism. Clearly you don't appreciate the vast difference, and have probably been polluted with the commonly held view in America that anyone to the left of Attilla the Hun is a red under the bed commie.

Denmark has a wide range of welfare benefits that they offer their citizens. As a result, they also have the highest taxes in the world. Equality is considered the most important value in Denmark. Small businesses thrive, with over 70 percent of companies having 50 employees or less.

Finland has one of the world’s best education systems, with no tuition fees and also giving free meals to their students. The literacy rate in Finland is 100 percent. Finland has one of the highest standards of living in the world. Like Denmark and other European countries, equality is considered one of the most important values in society.

Canada also has mostly a free market economy, but has a very extensive welfare system that includes free health and medical care. Canadians remain more open-minded and liberal than Americans

Sweden has a large welfare system, but due to a high national debt, required much government intervention in the economy.

Ireland has arguably one of the best welfare systems in the world, with unemployment checks higher on average than Denmark or Switzerland’s average. Around 25 percent of Ireland’s GDP goes towards paying for the welfare system.

New Zealand - the welfare system in the country is very wide ranging, offering support for housing, unemployment, health, child care, and education as well. Therefore, New Zealand has many of the characteristics of a socialist country, even while remaining officially free market.

Belgium has most of the same social security benefits that New Zealand offers, including invalid and old age pensions. The welfare system causes much of the country’s budget deficit though, and so is considered by some to be a burden on society.

So according to your definition, a "Socialist" country is any country that gives away more free handouts than the UK
Well your definition is not supported by any authoritative literature.

So according to your definition, a "Socialist" country is any country that is Stalinist.
Well your definition is not supported by any authoritative literature.

The person who wrote your definition is confused
He/she is equating a welfare state to a socialist state
The 2 are totally different.

[Cannydc]

Some countries who actually have a socialist economic structure.

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

Just in case you really believe there aren't any....

If you want to have a proper debate about Socialism, then first you need to understand what it is.

"A Socialist country is a country where the government or the public as a whole has control over the economy. In a socialist country, the producing and dispersing of goods is owned by the government."

Only one of the countries you have listed could possibly be classified as Socialist

However, if you want to continue to regurgitate garbage from whatever ratbag web sites you visit, go ahead.

Thanks, but your definition is rather more Communism than Socialism. Clearly you don't appreciate the vast difference, and have probably been polluted with the commonly held view in America that anyone to the left of Attilla the Hun is a red under the bed commie.

Denmark has a wide range of welfare benefits that they offer their citizens. As a result, they also have the highest taxes in the world. Equality is considered the most important value in Denmark. Small businesses thrive, with over 70 percent of companies having 50 employees or less.

Finland has one of the world’s best education systems, with no tuition fees and also giving free meals to their students. The literacy rate in Finland is 100 percent. Finland has one of the highest standards of living in the world. Like Denmark and other European countries, equality is considered one of the most important values in society.

Canada also has mostly a free market economy, but has a very extensive welfare system that includes free health and medical care. Canadians remain more open-minded and liberal than Americans

Sweden has a large welfare system, but due to a high national debt, required much government intervention in the economy.

Ireland has arguably one of the best welfare systems in the world, with unemployment checks higher on average than Denmark or Switzerland’s average. Around 25 percent of Ireland’s GDP goes towards paying for the welfare system.

New Zealand - the welfare system in the country is very wide ranging, offering support for housing, unemployment, health, child care, and education as well. Therefore, New Zealand has many of the characteristics of a socialist country, even while remaining officially free market.

Belgium has most of the same social security benefits that New Zealand offers, including invalid and old age pensions. The welfare system causes much of the country’s budget deficit though, and so is considered by some to be a burden on society.

So according to your definition, a "Socialist" country is any country that gives away more free handouts than the UK
Well your definition is not supported by any authoritative literature.

Each to his own.

I prefer my definition to yours, and use it to define what I prefer to see my government doing in my country.

It's a simple matter of principle - there is no need to define it using simplistic terms. It's especially sad to see the likes of medical care, invalid and old age pensions described as 'free handouts', and investing in the education of our children should be something to be proud of. Unfortunately, as a Tory you would be well versed in knowing the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

[MungoBrush]

Some countries who actually have a socialist economic structure.

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

Just in case you really believe there aren't any....

If you want to have a proper debate about Socialism, then first you need to understand what it is.

"A Socialist country is a country where the government or the public as a whole has control over the economy. In a socialist country, the producing and dispersing of goods is owned by the government."

Only one of the countries you have listed could possibly be classified as Socialist

However, if you want to continue to regurgitate garbage from whatever ratbag web sites you visit, go ahead.

Do you support Fascists murdering Socialists in VZ? Just wondering.

Do you support the mass murder of 10's of millions of dissenters in Socialist states?

"The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge.
The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.
There have also been killings on a smaller scale in North Korea, Vietnam, and some Eastern European and African countries."

Cunts tend to edit posts.
Mayesque behaviour.
Bravo.
Not all Socialists are Communists, far from it.
Are Syndicalists Communists?

So No I don't support mass murder by Stalinist states.

I notice that you didn't have the balls to answer my questions

I notice that you don't have the balls to post under your proper membership name.

[Rocthedog]

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WHAT HAVE THE TORIES ACHIEVED.
Kept that useless shower of shyte Labour out of office, a good achievement I say. You asked I answered. Can you imagine that Diane Abbott as a minister of state jeez that is scary? outcome. Can you imagine having a secretary of state who does not know shit from a shovel? Really Scary thought. Even you cannot be happy with that. Mind you being a Labour supporter you might well be OK with it. Mind-boggling if you are.

[Guest]

If you want to have a proper debate about Socialism, then first you need to understand what it is.

"A Socialist country is a country where the government or the public as a whole has control over the economy. In a socialist country, the producing and dispersing of goods is owned by the government."

Only one of the countries you have listed could possibly be classified as Socialist

However, if you want to continue to regurgitate garbage from whatever ratbag web sites you visit, go ahead.

Do you support Fascists murdering Socialists in VZ? Just wondering.

Do you support the mass murder of 10's of millions of dissenters in Socialist states?

"The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge.
The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.
There have also been killings on a smaller scale in North Korea, Vietnam, and some Eastern European and African countries."

Cunts tend to edit posts.
Mayesque behaviour.
Bravo.
Not all Socialists are Communists, far from it.
Are Syndicalists Communists?

So No I don't support mass murder by Stalinist states.

I notice that you didn't have the balls to answer my questions

I notice that you don't have the balls to post under your proper membership name.

so guests who are not members have membership names, really? So what is my username? Are Syndicalists Communists?

[Guest]

They have kept the country going after the world financial crisis caused by the socialists. When you look back on this time you will be grateful.

Bankers caused the banking crash. Are bankers Socialist?

[Cannydc]

They have kept the country going after the world financial crisis caused by the socialists. When you look back on this time you will be grateful.

Bankers caused the banking crash. Are bankers Socialist?

Like Mungo, Malcom has no real concept of what socialists are, or their beliefs.