What have the Tories achieved

Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby Gigabit » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:21 pm

Mungo is an idiot.

The railways don't need to make money, indeed they don't now, hence the subsidies. That is the point of public services though, they are for the public's benefit, NOT for profit.

But you being an uneducated prick, you won't get that. And you never went to Uni you absolute liar.
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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby Cannydc » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:29 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
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Cannydc wrote:Throw in cancelling of HS2 and you've got £110bn.


Have you discussed that with Corbyn and McDonnell?
They whipped all Labour MP's into supporting it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 41451.html

And it was in their manifesto for last year's election

"Complete HS2 from London to Birmingham, Leeds, Manchester and Scotland."


Priorities, Mungbean - priorities.

I can't see Corbyn regarding a 20 minute cut in journey time between London and Birmingham as a top priority.


So you don't believe in investing in this country's infrastructure
Fortunately, Corbyn doesn't share your views
If it was up to you, we'd still be running steam trains


Like I said, priorities.

Like these............

The annual ALARM Survey of local highways authorities in England and Wales suggests that 24,000 miles of local roads face closure in the next 12 months without repair. £9.31 billion is the estimated one-time cost to get roads back into reasonable condition.

A dramatic photograph of an arid reservoir has sparked fears of a 'drought' amid warnings of a three-month heatwave. The dry, cracked earth at Thirlmere looks like a sign of drought conditions, despite the rain that has bucketed down over parts of the country recently.

Theresa May has been urged to intervene over rail chaos across the north of England as 25 regional newspapers banded together to call on the prime minister to "get a grip".

Voters would back increased tax to fund the NHS and end the financial crisis in healthcare, according to a new poll. The British Social Attitudes Survey found 61 per cent of adults polled said they would pay more to save the struggling health service.


The UK has an infrastructure problem. For a nation that drove the industrial revolution, it is disheartening that a lack of political leadership has left Britain with crucial parts of its infrastructure crumbling. Overcrowded and unreliable railways, an inconsistent and often slow broadband network, a crisis in housing stock and questions over energy security all point to a failure by successive governments to set clear, strategic priorities — and accept the need for the public sector to play a bigger role in financing them.

In 2016, the World Economic Forum ranked the quality of the UK’s infrastructure 24th, down five places in a decade. Britain has a middling rank among industrialised counties but comes almost last out of the G7 nations, second to only Italy. As a Financial Times series has shown, the country has wasted a decade in which ultra-low borrowing costs offered the ideal opportunity to invest.

The failure to improve the UK’s core infrastructure is partly down to the desire of successive governments to favour grand prestige projects over a gradual approach that delivers incremental but more assured gains.

This attitude is seen in two major projects: the High Speed 2 railway and the Hinkley Point nuclear power station.

https://www.ft.com/content/dd086748-872 ... a57d47eff7
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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby MungoBrush » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:34 am

Cannydc wrote:Like I said, priorities.

Like these............

The annual ALARM Survey of local highways authorities in England and Wales suggests that 24,000 miles of local roads face closure in the next 12 months without repair. £9.31 billion is the estimated one-time cost to get roads back into reasonable condition.



Roads will be a lot worse under Labour
Labour annonced a new policy only a few weeks ago to give free bus travel to under 25's
It's going to cost £1.4 billion
And the money is going to come from the road building budget.

Priorities?
You do seem to have a whole set of different ones to Labour
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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby Guest » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:54 am

Another morning without a labour government.

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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby Cannydc » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:47 am

MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Like I said, priorities.

Like these............

The annual ALARM Survey of local highways authorities in England and Wales suggests that 24,000 miles of local roads face closure in the next 12 months without repair. £9.31 billion is the estimated one-time cost to get roads back into reasonable condition.



Roads will be a lot worse under Labour
Labour annonced a new policy only a few weeks ago to give free bus travel to under 25's
It's going to cost £1.4 billion
And the money is going to come from the road building budget.

Priorities?
You do seem to have a whole set of different ones to Labour


Why would much greater use of public transport lead to worse roads under Labour ?

You really don't think your daft statements through before committing to print, do you ?

For those of us who remember 1997, this is all a reminder of Tories who know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. They left an infrastructure horror story then, too - and tried to blame Labour for spending money to clean up the mess left behind. The British people understood, and will again. We all see the potholes. We all see the state of schools, the state of the NHS, the state of council services. We see how often our bins are emptied, how short the care visits are to our elderly relatives - if they happen at all.

Change is coming. You can't hide the shambles this lot have made of running the country.

You are on borrowed time.
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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby Guest » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:56 am

MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Like I said, priorities.

Like these............

The annual ALARM Survey of local highways authorities in England and Wales suggests that 24,000 miles of local roads face closure in the next 12 months without repair. £9.31 billion is the estimated one-time cost to get roads back into reasonable condition.



Roads will be a lot worse under Labour
Labour annonced a new policy only a few weeks ago to give free bus travel to under 25's
It's going to cost £1.4 billion
And the money is going to come from the road building budget.

Priorities?
You do seem to have a whole set of different ones to Labour


Why don't you want tax loopholes cancelled?
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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby MungoBrush » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:25 am

Guest wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Like I said, priorities.

Like these............

The annual ALARM Survey of local highways authorities in England and Wales suggests that 24,000 miles of local roads face closure in the next 12 months without repair. £9.31 billion is the estimated one-time cost to get roads back into reasonable condition.



Roads will be a lot worse under Labour
Labour annonced a new policy only a few weeks ago to give free bus travel to under 25's
It's going to cost £1.4 billion
And the money is going to come from the road building budget.

Priorities?
You do seem to have a whole set of different ones to Labour


Why don't you want tax loopholes cancelled?


Are you talking about tax evasion (which is illegal) or tax avoidance (which is legal)
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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby MungoBrush » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:50 am

Cannydc wrote:Why would much greater use of public transport lead to worse roads under Labour ?


So you think that if under 25's got free bus passes, they would sell their cars and use buses?
Are you serious?
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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby Cannydc » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:51 am

Time to condense the entire tax system onto a single A4 sheet of paper.

If you work, you pay tax according to income. No exceptions, exemptions, loopholes.

If you run a business, that business is registered here and taxed here. No exceptions, exemptions, loopholes.

Your books will be simple - and properly inspected and audited annually.

And if you are a foreign owned business who doesn't like the rules........fuck off. We have plenty who can open coffee shops, supply phone networks and run a parcel delivery service allied to an old fashioned club book (Amazon). We can fill those gaps - your coffee is crap anyway.
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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby Cannydc » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:52 am

MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Why would much greater use of public transport lead to worse roads under Labour ?


So you think that if under 25's got free bus passes, they would sell their cars and use buses?
Are you serious?


For work ?

Damned right they would use free busses. They can use their cars at weekends.
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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby MungoBrush » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:05 am

Cannydc wrote:Time to condense the entire tax system onto a single A4 sheet of paper.

If you work, you pay tax according to income. No exceptions, exemptions, loopholes.

If you run a business, that business is registered here and taxed here. No exceptions, exemptions, loopholes.

Your books will be simple - and properly inspected and audited annually.

And if you are a foreign owned business who doesn't like the rules........fuck off. We have plenty who can open coffee shops, supply phone networks and run a parcel delivery service allied to an old fashioned club book (Amazon). We can fill those gaps - your coffee is crap anyway.


Clearly you know nothing about tax either
I can condense the entire income tax regime into a single sentence for you
It was done many decades ago and is incorporated into tax 101 textbooks:

Taxable income = Assessable income - Allowable deductions.

Then of course, there are all the other taxes:
VAT
Road Tax
National Insurance
Stamp duty
Death duty

etc etc
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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby Cannydc » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:21 am

MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Time to condense the entire tax system onto a single A4 sheet of paper.

If you work, you pay tax according to income. No exceptions, exemptions, loopholes.

If you run a business, that business is registered here and taxed here. No exceptions, exemptions, loopholes.

Your books will be simple - and properly inspected and audited annually.

And if you are a foreign owned business who doesn't like the rules........fuck off. We have plenty who can open coffee shops, supply phone networks and run a parcel delivery service allied to an old fashioned club book (Amazon). We can fill those gaps - your coffee is crap anyway.


Clearly you know nothing about tax either
I can condense the entire income tax regime into a single sentence for you
It was done many decades ago and is incorporated into tax 101 textbooks:

Taxable income = Assessable income - Allowable deductions.

Then of course, there are all the other taxes:
VAT
Road Tax
National Insurance
Stamp duty
Death duty

etc etc


I was clearly referring to income tax and company taxation.

Forget allowable deductions - they are an accountant's wet dream. Instead of the taxpayer forking out for them, let the employer pay more to compensate.
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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby MungoBrush » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:31 am

Cannydc wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Time to condense the entire tax system onto a single A4 sheet of paper.

If you work, you pay tax according to income. No exceptions, exemptions, loopholes.

If you run a business, that business is registered here and taxed here. No exceptions, exemptions, loopholes.

Your books will be simple - and properly inspected and audited annually.

And if you are a foreign owned business who doesn't like the rules........fuck off. We have plenty who can open coffee shops, supply phone networks and run a parcel delivery service allied to an old fashioned club book (Amazon). We can fill those gaps - your coffee is crap anyway.


Clearly you know nothing about tax either
I can condense the entire income tax regime into a single sentence for you
It was done many decades ago and is incorporated into tax 101 textbooks:

Taxable income = Assessable income - Allowable deductions.

Then of course, there are all the other taxes:
VAT
Road Tax
National Insurance
Stamp duty
Death duty

etc etc


I was clearly referring to income tax and company taxation.

Forget allowable deductions - they are an accountant's wet dream. Instead of the taxpayer forking out for them, let the employer pay more to compensate.


Forget allowable deductions?
Are you saying that employers cannot deduct their employees wages from their gross revenue?
Or the raw materials they buy?
Or the rents on their premises?
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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby Guest » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:50 am

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Re: What have the Tories achieved

Postby MungoBrush » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:08 am

Cannydc wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Why would much greater use of public transport lead to worse roads under Labour ?


So you think that if under 25's got free bus passes, they would sell their cars and use buses?
Are you serious?


For work ?

Damned right they would use free busses. They can use their cars at weekends.


I dont believe you
If they switch to bus transport - are their monthly car repayments going to decrease? No
Is their insurance going to go down? No
Will the MoT be cheaper? No
Will servicing costs be lower? No
Will depreciation be less? No

All they will save would be a few £ each month on petrol.

And if you think that an under-25 is going to switch to busses for a few £ savings, then you must be living on another planet

The only people who will save will be people who already use busses
So, no impact on road wear
None whatsoever.
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