THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

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Postby Guest » Wed May 02, 2018 9:31 pm

Cannydc wrote:
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Gigabit wrote:Vote Labour, get a proper media that gives a shit


Labour have had decades to get a proper media. What happened?


They were in cahoots with Murdoch


Since the 1960's when they handed him the Daily Herald, they are not to be trusted.


What piffle.

The Daily Herald was owned by The International Publishing Corporation, who bought a controlling share in 1961. It underwent several changes of management before ceasing publication in 1964, when it was relaunched as The Sun, in its pre-Murdoch form.

By 1969 the original Sun had fewer readers than the Herald at the end of its existence. The newspaper was then sold by IPC to Rupert Murdoch's News Limited.

I can find no record of Labour owning the Herald or giving it to Murdoch. It was bought on the open market.


He's another Tory who wants Socialist interventionist policies in the free market to solve problems. He quotes the worldwide banking crash, which didn't affect Socialist countries as badly as USA, UK etc.

There was no reason not to stop the sale to Murdoch, was there? Are you for a free market or a Socialist controlled economy? Which?
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Wed May 02, 2018 9:36 pm

malcom wrote:
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malcom wrote:Labour have had decades to get a proper media. What happened?


They were in cahoots with Murdoch


Since the 1960's when they handed him the Daily Herald, they are not to be trusted.


Labour didn't sell the Herald to Murdoch. You aren't too keen on the truth.

Labour were in power when Murdoch bought it, they didn't prevent the sale. They can't be trusted.

So you want a government who decides what your rich idols can and cannot buy?
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby Grafenwalder » Wed May 02, 2018 9:36 pm

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Gigabit wrote:Vote Labour, get a proper media that gives a shit


Get a leader who doesn't fold when he's got her on the rails...

They certainly need someone more vociferous who will go on the attack. Not saying Corbyn doesn't know his politics but he lacks strong leadership qualities with presence and by nature he's quietly spoken.
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby Stooo » Wed May 02, 2018 9:41 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:If she had nothing to hide she'd welcome the release of all documents but hiding it away proves her complicity.


It's going to leak anyway and is a nice distraction from the horror of brexit, imagine thinking that institutionalised racism is needed to shield a massive fudge from thewillathupeepul.

It's 2018, where's my flying jet car?
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby Stooo » Wed May 02, 2018 9:42 pm

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Gigabit wrote:Vote Labour, get a proper media that gives a shit


Get a leader who doesn't fold when he's got her on the rails...

They certainly need someone more vociferous who will go on the attack. Not saying Corbyn doesn't know his politics but he lacks strong leadership qualities with presence and by nature he's quietly spoken.


PMQs were going great and he hesitated and bottled it. Not the first time.
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby MungoBrush » Wed May 02, 2018 9:45 pm

Gigabit wrote:Vote Labour, get a proper media that gives a shit


That would be that Labour Party that delivered the massive breast screening cock-up that we've all just found out about?
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby Cannydc » Wed May 02, 2018 9:55 pm

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Gigabit wrote:Vote Labour, get a proper media that gives a shit


That would be that Labour Party that delivered the massive breast screening cock-up that we've all just found out about?


lol - You mean the one that you didn't notice (or more likely ignored, like Windrush) for 8 YEARS ??
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby Guest » Wed May 02, 2018 9:58 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
malcom wrote:
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malcom wrote:
Gigabit wrote:They were in cahoots with Murdoch


Since the 1960's when they handed him the Daily Herald, they are not to be trusted.


Labour didn't sell the Herald to Murdoch. You aren't too keen on the truth.

Labour were in power when Murdoch bought it, they didn't prevent the sale. They can't be trusted.

So you want a government who decides what your rich idols can and cannot buy?


socialist intervention are always called for by Tories when they try to undermine Labour, like the financial crises
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby malcom » Wed May 02, 2018 9:58 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:So you want a government who decides what your rich idols can and cannot buy?

You stick to stating your opinions and I'll stick to stating mine. I want a free press which reflects your views and mine, can you say the same?
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby Guest » Wed May 02, 2018 10:05 pm

malcom wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:So you want a government who decides what your rich idols can and cannot buy?

You stick to stating your opinions and I'll stick to stating mine. I want a free press which reflects your views and mine, can you say the same?


so why are you moaning about Labour not intervening in a sale of a newspaper title?
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby malcom » Wed May 02, 2018 10:13 pm

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Rolluplostinspace wrote:So you want a government who decides what your rich idols can and cannot buy?

You stick to stating your opinions and I'll stick to stating mine. I want a free press which reflects your views and mine, can you say the same?


so why are you moaning about Labour not intervening in a sale of a newspaper title?


I'm casting doubt on their sincerity by showing that they've had decades to do something about a free press but did nothing. Don't be fooled by them.
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby Guest » Wed May 02, 2018 10:16 pm

malcom wrote:
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Rolluplostinspace wrote:So you want a government who decides what your rich idols can and cannot buy?

You stick to stating your opinions and I'll stick to stating mine. I want a free press which reflects your views and mine, can you say the same?


so why are you moaning about Labour not intervening in a sale of a newspaper title?


I'm casting doubt on their sincerity by showing that they've had decades to do something about a free press but did nothing. Don't be fooled by them.


What are you going on about? Do you want a free press or not? If so why are you moaning about non intervention? If not, why are you a Tory if you want Socialist responses like market interventions.
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Postby Rolluplostinspace » Wed May 02, 2018 10:23 pm

malcom wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:So you want a government who decides what your rich idols can and cannot buy?

You stick to stating your opinions and I'll stick to stating mine. I want a free press which reflects your views and mine, can you say the same?

You've lost it.
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby malcom » Wed May 02, 2018 10:30 pm

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Rolluplostinspace wrote:So you want a government who decides what your rich idols can and cannot buy?

You stick to stating your opinions and I'll stick to stating mine. I want a free press which reflects your views and mine, can you say the same?


so why are you moaning about Labour not intervening in a sale of a newspaper title?


I'm casting doubt on their sincerity by showing that they've had decades to do something about a free press but did nothing. Don't be fooled by them.


What are you going on about? Do you want a free press or not? If so why are you moaning about non intervention? If not, why are you a Tory if you want Socialist responses like market interventions.


I don't object to interventions that help bolster democracy. Do you?
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Re: THE TORY WINDRUSH COVER-UP UNDER WAY.

Postby Cannydc » Wed May 02, 2018 10:35 pm

How would stopping the selling off a failing newspaper which had lost 2/3s of its readers bolster democracy ?

Isn't MORE competition in the marketplace a Tory wet dream ?

How would one less publication help competition ?
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