IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Re: IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Postby MungoBrush » Sun May 13, 2018 12:27 pm

Guest wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Guest wrote:Same applies for utilities, all could be privatised and leave Southern Water, Electric and Gas aziz. :gigglesnshit:


Hooray!

While you are at it, lets resurrect British Road Services
And the National Coal Board
And BEA
And the egg marketing board
And British Rail
And British Steel
and British Leyland

etc etc

And hundreds of other massive loss making enterprises that cost the taxpayers billions to bail out year after year.
Billions that could have been spent on the NHS for example.


A Tory trots out the old loss making myth. :pointlaugh:


I can see that you are in denial
No wonder you are posting hiding under that paper bag, too ashamed to let us know who you really are.
Just look up the actual facts.
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Re: IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Postby Cannydc » Sun May 13, 2018 1:22 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Guest wrote:Same applies for utilities, all could be privatised and leave Southern Water, Electric and Gas aziz. :gigglesnshit:


Hooray!

While you are at it, lets resurrect British Road Services
And the National Coal Board
And BEA
And the egg marketing board
And British Rail
And British Steel
and British Leyland

etc etc


Yes, lets !!!!!

Don't forget British Airways, British Gas and anything else with 'British' in the title, seemingly hated by dogmatic, sell at any price Tories.

I really find it hard to spot anyone who now believes that selling off the family silver for a pittance in the 1980s was actually a spiffing good idea.

It cost thousands of jobs, and allowed other countries to own our infrastructure, charging us what they want for use of it.

Madness of the right, personified.
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Re: IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Postby Gigabit » Sun May 13, 2018 5:36 pm

I find it odd that if privatisation has been such a success, why no other country has replicated it like the UK.

Railways - UK is unique in privatisation in Europe, even Northern Ireland is state-owned!
Telecoms - France Government still owns significant share of Orange; German Government still owns significant share of DT
Post - publicly owned in most of Europe, e.g. France, Germany, Spain, Switzerland
Utilities - EDF in France is mostly state-owned

There is a max granted in some countries (German utilities are mainly privatised) but no country has privatised literally everything. Why might this be? It can't be a coincidence. Privatisation has done little to improve service. Railway punctuality for example is horrific compared to Switzerland or Germany. TfL Underground leads in the UK and is state-owned. Electricity prices are incredibly expensive (privatisation = competition = lower prices? Wrong, it's an organised cartel). Broadband prices are low because of strict regulation. Has privatisation increased fibre availability, nope. Do BT get lots of taxpayer money and have every FTTC contract? Yup, so much for competition.

I'm not saying we start privatising everything, that would be mad. But services which haven't improved and in fact cost more (railways!), seem to me pointless being privatised. I'm sure the German and French Governments love it, they can do fuck all and take a cut. But do we need them? I find it odd we don't get talk from the Brexiteers on this, taking our country back. Well let's take our railways back then.
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Re: IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Postby Gigabit » Sun May 13, 2018 5:38 pm

Cannydc wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Guest wrote:Same applies for utilities, all could be privatised and leave Southern Water, Electric and Gas aziz. :gigglesnshit:


Hooray!

While you are at it, lets resurrect British Road Services
And the National Coal Board
And BEA
And the egg marketing board
And British Rail
And British Steel
and British Leyland

etc etc


Yes, lets !!!!!

Don't forget British Airways, British Gas and anything else with 'British' in the title, seemingly hated by dogmatic, sell at any price Tories.

I really find it hard to spot anyone who now believes that selling off the family silver for a pittance in the 1980s was actually a spiffing good idea.

It cost thousands of jobs, and allowed other countries to own our infrastructure, charging us what they want for use of it.

Madness of the right, personified.


Most of Thatcher's policies have come back to bite the Tories. Her housing policies created the current crisis - not replicated elsewhere in Europe; her economic policies created the global financial crisis; her privatisations and union-bashing created falling pay seen nowhere else in Europe (even Greece increased pay since 2008) and the outrage at anyone trying to collectively bargain. I note Germany has strong trade unions and good working conditions, less hours to work, better productivity. Sounds awful!
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Re: IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Postby Guest » Sun May 13, 2018 8:19 pm

Cannydc wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Guest wrote:Same applies for utilities, all could be privatised and leave Southern Water, Electric and Gas aziz. :gigglesnshit:


Hooray!

While you are at it, lets resurrect British Road Services
And the National Coal Board
And BEA
And the egg marketing board
And British Rail
And British Steel
and British Leyland

etc etc


Yes, lets !!!!!

Don't forget British Airways, British Gas and anything else with 'British' in the title, seemingly hated by dogmatic, sell at any price Tories.

I really find it hard to spot anyone who now believes that selling off the family silver for a pittance in the 1980s was actually a spiffing good idea.

It cost thousands of jobs, and allowed other countries to own our infrastructure, charging us what they want for use of it.

Madness of the right, personified.


Question is, why didn't Thatcher save for a rainy day when she had all the oil revenues pouring in? Tories are quick to say New Labour didn't but sit on their hands when asked why Thatcher didn't.
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Re: IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Postby Stooo » Sun May 13, 2018 9:40 pm

Erm...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 47111.html

The British government will host a summit encouraging six European countries to join the EU for the sake of their “security, stability and prosperity”, months before it is due to sign its own Brexit withdrawal deal with Brussels.

London will in July play host to Western Balkans governments including Serbia and Albania, as well as existing EU member states, to discuss reforms to pave the way to future EU enlargement.


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Re: IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Postby Guest » Sun May 13, 2018 10:16 pm

Guest wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Guest wrote:Same applies for utilities, all could be privatised and leave Southern Water, Electric and Gas aziz. :gigglesnshit:


Hooray!

While you are at it, lets resurrect British Road Services
And the National Coal Board
And BEA
And the egg marketing board
And British Rail
And British Steel
and British Leyland

etc etc


Yes, lets !!!!!

Don't forget British Airways, British Gas and anything else with 'British' in the title, seemingly hated by dogmatic, sell at any price Tories.

I really find it hard to spot anyone who now believes that selling off the family silver for a pittance in the 1980s was actually a spiffing good idea.

It cost thousands of jobs, and allowed other countries to own our infrastructure, charging us what they want for use of it.

Madness of the right, personified.


Question is, why didn't Thatcher save for a rainy day when she had all the oil revenues pouring in? Tories are quick to say New Labour didn't but sit on their hands when asked why Thatcher didn't.


Er because she was doing what tories always do...paying down the massive debt legacy of the previous labour administration.

Read a book ffs.
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Re: IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Postby Punk » Sun May 13, 2018 10:23 pm

Stooo wrote:Erm...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 47111.html

The British government will host a summit encouraging six European countries to join the EU for the sake of their “security, stability and prosperity”, months before it is due to sign its own Brexit withdrawal deal with Brussels.

London will in July play host to Western Balkans governments including Serbia and Albania, as well as existing EU member states, to discuss reforms to pave the way to future EU enlargement.


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This actually happened as well. Numerous Tories spoke out the case for Turkey joining the EU, including Gove and BoZo. Come the referendum Gove, Bozo etc said the EU will fail because it will allow the likes of Turkey to join. After the referendum Senior Tories like Gove and Bozo were out campaigning for, yes you guessed it, Turkey to join the EU. :yikes:
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Re: IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Postby Punk » Sun May 13, 2018 10:25 pm

Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Guest wrote:Same applies for utilities, all could be privatised and leave Southern Water, Electric and Gas aziz. :gigglesnshit:


Hooray!

While you are at it, lets resurrect British Road Services
And the National Coal Board
And BEA
And the egg marketing board
And British Rail
And British Steel
and British Leyland

etc etc


Yes, lets !!!!!

Don't forget British Airways, British Gas and anything else with 'British' in the title, seemingly hated by dogmatic, sell at any price Tories.

I really find it hard to spot anyone who now believes that selling off the family silver for a pittance in the 1980s was actually a spiffing good idea.

It cost thousands of jobs, and allowed other countries to own our infrastructure, charging us what they want for use of it.

Madness of the right, personified.


Question is, why didn't Thatcher save for a rainy day when she had all the oil revenues pouring in? Tories are quick to say New Labour didn't but sit on their hands when asked why Thatcher didn't.


Er because she was doing what tories always do...paying down the massive debt legacy of the previous labour administration.

Read a book ffs.


There wasn't a massive debt legacy though. Guests question remains. Remind us why did the Tory Chancellor leave a note saying sorry we're broke in 1964?
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Re: IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Postby Grafenwalder » Sun May 13, 2018 10:33 pm

Stooo wrote:Erm...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 47111.html

The British government will host a summit encouraging six European countries to join the EU for the sake of their “security, stability and prosperity”, months before it is due to sign its own Brexit withdrawal deal with Brussels.

London will in July play host to Western Balkans governments including Serbia and Albania, as well as existing EU member states, to discuss reforms to pave the way to future EU enlargement.


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Hilarious! I liked this bit :laughing:

Just as we seem set on leaving the EU, we start advising others to join. Government policy would not look out of place in the theatre of the absurd.” Mr Brake said of foreign secretary Boris Johnson: “This just shows how incompetent Boris is. I wouldn’t let him run a bath, let alone the Foreign Office.”
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Re: IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Postby Punk » Sun May 13, 2018 10:36 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:
Stooo wrote:Erm...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 47111.html

The British government will host a summit encouraging six European countries to join the EU for the sake of their “security, stability and prosperity”, months before it is due to sign its own Brexit withdrawal deal with Brussels.

London will in July play host to Western Balkans governments including Serbia and Albania, as well as existing EU member states, to discuss reforms to pave the way to future EU enlargement.


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Hilarious! I liked this bit :laughing:

Just as we seem set on leaving the EU, we start advising others to join. Government policy would not look out of place in the theatre of the absurd.” Mr Brake said of foreign secretary Boris Johnson: “This just shows how incompetent Boris is. I wouldn’t let him run a bath, let alone the Foreign Office.”




Don't forget the Scottish Indy referendum with Tories from the UK heading north of the border to say that we are better in a union and going alone would be economic suicide. :gigglesnshit:
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Re: IS BREXIT NOW DEAD IN THE WATER ?

Postby Guest » Sun May 13, 2018 10:41 pm

Ireland will NEVER accept a hard border between the North and the South....Brexiteers find that hard to understand!

Very soft Brexshit :cuppaT:
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