Why should we leave the EU

Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby Guest » Thu May 17, 2018 10:44 am

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Marxists want open borders and support a system that is bad for workers? Got any evidence of this? Corbyn's immigration policy is better than the Tories as it removed the FoM rules May refuses to. It is more skills based immigration unlike May's. Labour and Tories have been very different until 1979, since then we have had Neo Liberalism and YOU still support the Tories and Neo Liberalism (Globalisation). You erroneously think Labour will allow more in when the opposite is true. Why do you support a party that is for globalisation, for the 5%?


No, they would remove more immigration restrictions, hardly good for the working classes as over-supply of labour keeps a cap on wages, makes union organising more difficult and creates job insecurity, Corbyn and his Union bosses have actually betrayed the people who pay their subs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5418525/Diane-Abbott-Labour-let-immigrants-in.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/yarls-wood-immigration-diane-abbot-detention-centre-hostile-environment-theresa-may-a8353846.html

And I don't support the Tories or neoliberalism.


Yes you do support it, you support Neo Liberal newspapers like the Daily Mail, how many clicks a day do you contribute to that moronic rubbish. The Mail OPINION article is deeply flawed and the indy article bangs on about detention centres. Do you have an academic study caning Labour's immigration position because linking the Mail or Express is a joke.
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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby Ray of Sunshine » Thu May 17, 2018 11:09 am

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Yes you do support it, you support Neo Liberal newspapers like the Daily Mail, how many clicks a day do you contribute to that moronic rubbish. The Mail OPINION article is deeply flawed and the indy article bangs on about detention centres. Do you have an academic study caning Labour's immigration position because linking the Mail or Express is a joke.


Daily Mail online is just a ton of celebrity gossip as far as I can see.

What makes you think I "support" it?

And the other link is the Independent, that's no doubt OK for you as well know the Independent and Guardian print 100% gospel truth.
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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby McAz » Thu May 17, 2018 11:13 am

MungoBrush wrote:There are certain groups of people who migrate here who like our way of like and want to become British. They make an effort to fit in and aren’t trying to change our society

There are other groups who come here who clearly don’t like the way things are
They don’t like our food so they want us all to change to their ways...


Halal and kosher slaughter

How to legally carry out religious slaughter, including how to restrain and bleed the animal.

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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby Guest » Thu May 17, 2018 11:17 am

Ray of Sunshine wrote:
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Yes you do support it, you support Neo Liberal newspapers like the Daily Mail, how many clicks a day do you contribute to that moronic rubbish. The Mail OPINION article is deeply flawed and the indy article bangs on about detention centres. Do you have an academic study caning Labour's immigration position because linking the Mail or Express is a joke.


Daily Mail online is just a ton of celebrity gossip as far as I can see.

What makes you think I "support" it?

And the other link is the Independent, that's no doubt OK for you as well know the Independent and Guardian print 100% gospel truth.


Why link to that fake news site then? Then you fall for the moronic I think the Guardian never lies bollocks. :roll:
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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby Guest » Thu May 17, 2018 11:28 am

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The changes that are happening in British culture are not resulting from immigrants from the EU.


No, from immigrants admitted into the EU from Africa and the Middle East, in league with the UN, to destroy the nation states of Europe and their unique cultures.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395


There are certain groups of people who migrate here who like our way of like and want to become British. They make an effort to fit in and aren’t trying to change our society

There are other groups who come here who clearly don’t like the way things are
They don’t like our food so they want us all to change to their ways
They don’t like our schools so they start their own
They don’t like our clothes so the wear other stuff
They don’t like our laws so they try to change them


Why do you Tories hate Jews? Why can't they have Kosher food or wear they skull caps? Why can't they live in ghettos like Hendon and Golders Green?
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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby McAz » Thu May 17, 2018 11:37 am

Guest wrote:Why do you Tories hate Jews? Why can't they have Kosher food or wear they skull caps? Why can't they live in ghettos like Hendon and Golders Green?


And they're so blatant about it too.

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There are certain groups of people who migrate here who like our way of like and want to become British. They make an effort to fit in and aren’t trying to change our society

There are other groups who come here who clearly don’t like the way things are
They don’t like our schools so they start their own


Jewish primary schools
http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/articles/271_jewish_primary_schoo.htm

Jewish secondary schools
http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/articles/272_jewish_secondary_sch.htm
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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby Beth Din » Thu May 17, 2018 11:43 am

McAz wrote:
Guest wrote:Why do you Tories hate Jews? Why can't they have Kosher food or wear they skull caps? Why can't they live in ghettos like Hendon and Golders Green?


And they're so blatant about it too.

MungoBrush wrote:
There are certain groups of people who migrate here who like our way of like and want to become British. They make an effort to fit in and aren’t trying to change our society

There are other groups who come here who clearly don’t like the way things are
They don’t like our schools so they start their own


Jewish primary schools
http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/articles/271_jewish_primary_schoo.htm

Jewish secondary schools
http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/articles/272_jewish_secondary_sch.htm


Has the deeply anti-Semite mentioned their own laws yet? :shake head:
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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby Guest » Thu May 17, 2018 11:48 am

May said at PMQs there would be a future customs union but her spokesperson said it was about future customs arrangements.

So vote Yes and you get no.
Vote Tory and you get Labour policies.

I love the Tories when they are in power. Such a laugh a fucking minute.

But Diane Abbott....
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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby McAz » Thu May 17, 2018 11:53 am

Beth Din wrote:Has the deeply anti-Semite mentioned their own laws yet? :shake head:


Only a sly passing dig so far. :shake head:

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There are certain groups of people who migrate here who like our way of like and want to become British. They make an effort to fit in and aren’t trying to change our society

There are other groups who come here who clearly don’t like the way things are
They don’t like our laws so they try to change them
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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby Guest » Thu May 17, 2018 1:15 pm

Facebook admits two Leave groups shared data, which is against electoral law.

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/stat ... 9683125249

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oh dear.

Can we end this fiasco now?
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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby Guest » Thu May 17, 2018 1:16 pm

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Beth Din wrote:Has the deeply anti-Semite mentioned their own laws yet? :shake head:


Only a sly passing dig so far. :shake head:

MungoBrush wrote:
There are certain groups of people who migrate here who like our way of like and want to become British. They make an effort to fit in and aren’t trying to change our society

There are other groups who come here who clearly don’t like the way things are
They don’t like our laws so they try to change them


I'm sure Viper and Didge will take him to task. :gigglesnshit:
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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby McAz » Thu May 17, 2018 1:27 pm

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I'm sure Viper and Didge will take him to task. :gigglesnshit:


How could they possibly allow vile anti-Semitism like this pass? :dunno:

MungoBrush wrote:There are certain groups of people who migrate here who like our way of like and want to become British. They make an effort to fit in and aren’t trying to change our society

There are other groups who come here who clearly don’t like the way things are
They don’t like our clothes so they wear other stuff

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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby Cannydc » Thu May 17, 2018 2:03 pm

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Ray of Sunshine wrote:She's delaying delaying delaying.

Doing as little as possible and making few firm statements about anything so as not to lose support from any section of voters has been the modus operandi for British PMs since Blair.

Would love to see a conviction politician as PM again.


Me too.

JC4PM


Conviction is nowhere near enough to be a PM
You need to be a leader
You need to get stuff done

I would have thought by now that you would have realised that Corbyn does nothing
Very shouty - yes
Very good at rabble rousing - yes

But

Where was he during the brexit referendum?
Why hasn't he still fixed the anti-semitism issue after 3 years as (so-called) leader?
Why has he dithered on Trident - an issue on which he is supposed to have conviction?
Why did he just hide away when those Russians were subject to attempted murder?

Conviction alone does not make a PM capable of leading an entire country
We definitely do not need a PM who hides behind the curtains every time a difficult issue needs to be dealt with.


If you want to see a politician who hides behind the curtains when a difficult issue crops up....

https://youtu.be/5oplXq_V0cU

Corbyn doesn't even need to try to comprehensively hammer Treeza at PMQs these days.

He is the leader in waiting, my only issue with him is that he should come out clearly in harmony with his party over Brexit. That is, a vote on the 'deal' and support remaining in the customs union, with all that entails.
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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby Ray of Sunshine » Thu May 17, 2018 4:13 pm

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Why link to that fake news site then? Then you fall for the moronic I think the Guardian never lies bollocks. :roll:


Because they're more likely to tell the truth about immigration than most of the MSM.

I don't take any newspaper as absolute gospel but it's no less accurate than say, The Guardian, which is famous for mistakes, it's just your political bias showing.
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Re: Why should we leave the EU

Postby MungoBrush » Thu May 17, 2018 4:23 pm

McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:There are certain groups of people who migrate here who like our way of like and want to become British. They make an effort to fit in and aren’t trying to change our society

There are other groups who come here who clearly don’t like the way things are
They don’t like our food so they want us all to change to their ways...


Halal and kosher slaughter

How to legally carry out religious slaughter, including how to restrain and bleed the animal.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/halal-and-kosher-slaughter


The RSPCA is campaigning for halal slaughter without stunning to be made illegal.
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