Sanctions on Iran.

Sanctions on Iran.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue May 22, 2018 1:31 am

The toughest sanctions ever imposed on any country in history.
This is an act of war.
We the Russians the Chinese the Europeans are totally against this behaviour and all said they'll do everything possible to get on with Iran despite America bullying a middle eastern nation yet again.
Thing is any business or nation that ignores the demands of the empire will be hit with equally draconian sanctions so the French oil company Total have said America have made it impossible for them to continue to do business with Iran so are bowing down and pulling out.
Most of the rest will be bullied to carry out the will of America shortly .... as usual.
Fucking disgusting cowardly America.
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Re: Sanctions on Iran.

Postby Guest » Tue May 22, 2018 3:16 am

Its not 'death to the uk' they shout every day though, is it?
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Postby Brad and Dan » Tue May 22, 2018 8:43 am

Guest wrote:Its not 'death to the uk' they shout every day though, is it?


nor any country for that matter

good call
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Re: Sanctions on Iran.

Postby Si_Crewe » Tue May 22, 2018 10:08 am

Rolluplostinspace wrote:The toughest sanctions ever imposed on any country in history.
This is an act of war.


Nah,

An "act of war" was what Israel did when they sent Mossad into Iran to steal all the stuff Netanyahoo and Trump needed to claim Iran is up to no good.

Course, invading a sovereign nation with a military force is okay when you're Israel because Holocaust and Antisemitism.


People come up with all sorts of wacky reasons why the yanks support Israel so doggedly but it seems pretty straightforward to me.
The USA has regulations in place which prevent US arms manufacturers from selling any military technology internationally.
The only country exempt from ITAR is... Israel.
The USA and Israel have a mutually beneficial arrangement whereby all the US arms manufacturers (and there are many, many of them) can legally ship arms to Israel and then Israeli arms dealers can sell yank arms to anywhere in the world.
Israel gets it's pick of US military technology, Israeli arms dealers get to sell US military hardware around the world and US arms manufacturers get a pipeline to the world market which they otherwise wouldn't have.
Win/win.
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Re: Sanctions on Iran.

Postby MungoBrush » Tue May 22, 2018 11:44 am

Si_Crewe wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The toughest sanctions ever imposed on any country in history.
This is an act of war.


Nah,

An "act of war" was what Israel did when they sent Mossad into Iran to steal all the stuff Netanyahoo and Trump needed to claim Iran is up to no good.

Course, invading a sovereign nation with a military force is okay when you're Israel because Holocaust and Antisemitism.


People come up with all sorts of wacky reasons why the yanks support Israel so doggedly but it seems pretty straightforward to me.
The USA has regulations in place which prevent US arms manufacturers from selling any military technology internationally.
The only country exempt from ITAR is... Israel.
The USA and Israel have a mutually beneficial arrangement whereby all the US arms manufacturers (and there are many, many of them) can legally ship arms to Israel and then Israeli arms dealers can sell yank arms to anywhere in the world.
Israel gets it's pick of US military technology, Israeli arms dealers get to sell US military hardware around the world and US arms manufacturers get a pipeline to the world market which they otherwise wouldn't have.
Win/win.


The Australian airforce has mostly US warplanes
And quite a few different types of rifles as well
I don't think that they bought them through Israel.

RAF has quite a few Lockheed planes as well.
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Re: Sanctions on Iran.

Postby Cannydc » Tue May 22, 2018 3:53 pm

Apache helicopters are American (Boeing)

So are Chinooks, C130s, so are the new Lightning F-35B, the Beechcraft trainer, the C17a Globemaster, Sentry, Airseeker, Reaper and Sentinel.....
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Re: Sanctions on Iran.

Postby Guest » Tue May 22, 2018 4:02 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:The toughest sanctions ever imposed on any country in history.
This is an act of war.
We the Russians the Chinese the Europeans are totally against this behaviour and all said they'll do everything possible to get on with Iran despite America bullying a middle eastern nation yet again.
Thing is any business or nation that ignores the demands of the empire will be hit with equally draconian sanctions so the French oil company Total have said America have made it impossible for them to continue to do business with Iran so are bowing down and pulling out.
Most of the rest will be bullied to carry out the will of America shortly .... as usual.
Fucking disgusting cowardly America.






Isn't it great to finally have a world leader again.
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Re: Sanctions on Iran.

Postby Si_Crewe » Tue May 22, 2018 6:02 pm

MungoBrush wrote:The Australian airforce has mostly US warplanes
And quite a few different types of rifles as well
I don't think that they bought them through Israel.

RAF has quite a few Lockheed planes as well.


Sorry, perhaps I should have gone into greater detail.

The way ITAR works is that it forces US arms companies to seek permission from the government before they can sell stuff outside the USA.
It also seeks to regulate what permitted buyers do with stuff they buy off the yanks too.
So, for example, when Venezuela decided to sell it's old F16s to Iran, they were deterred from doing so for fear of US sanctions.
It was set up as a 2-tier system to, firstly, ensure that US companies only sell arms to approved buyers and, secondly, to ensure buyers don't do anything dodgy with arms they've bought from the US for fear of upsetting the US government.

Which all sounds pretty reasonable.
The problem is, as I originally said, is that Israel isn't subject to ITAR restrictions, which means that US arms companies can ship weapons out to Israel, where a lot of them disappear onto the open market - making the US Arms companies and the Israeli arms dealers lots of money in the process.
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