Real life Daniel Blake- 'Tories trying to kill me'

[Ray of Sunshine]

Pack of lies.

Hi Corbynite

You people aren't deluded at all.

[Ray of Sunshine]

Glad to hear you enjoy it - perhaps you're not such a racist after all.

I'm sure one day there will be a cure for Billybraggitis, hang in there.

[Claire]

I'd feel the same voting Green down there. You really need to get the voting system sorted.

As you know, my family originates in Glasgow. After a half a century of right-wing Tory and slightly less right-wing Labour governments their plight, and millions of working class and under class people like them, remains largely unchanged. Party politics here and where you are is little better than football - one team wins one time, the other teams wins another. All wonderfully pointless by and large.

Except where I am, my team keeps on winning and is making the country a better place.

I support the SNP, even from here - but I know too many SNP officials to believe they are any better than anyone else.

I know quite a few too, however, my experience of my country under an SNP Government is streets ahead of it under Labour. It's also a far more caring country that any of the other three in the Union.

There are numpties in every party, but I think the SNP have, in the main, got it right.

[McAz]

I'd feel the same voting Green down there. You really need to get the voting system sorted.

As you know, my family originates in Glasgow. After a half a century of right-wing Tory and slightly less right-wing Labour governments their plight, and millions of working class and under class people like them, remains largely unchanged. Party politics here and where you are is little better than football - one team wins one time, the other teams wins another. All wonderfully pointless by and large.

Except where I am, my team keeps on winning and is making the country a better place.

I support the SNP, even from here - but I know too many SNP officials to believe they are any better than anyone else.

I know quite a few too, however, my experience of my country under an SNP Government is streets ahead of it under Labour. It's also a far more caring country that any of the other three in the Union.

There are numpties in every party, but I think the SNP have, in the main, got it right.

Labour grew fat and complacent, just as the SNP will - in fact, many now SNP officials fled Labour when they saw the writing on the wall, such is their integrity.

[Claire]

As you know, my family originates in Glasgow. After a half a century of right-wing Tory and slightly less right-wing Labour governments their plight, and millions of working class and under class people like them, remains largely unchanged. Party politics here and where you are is little better than football - one team wins one time, the other teams wins another. All wonderfully pointless by and large.

Except where I am, my team keeps on winning and is making the country a better place.

I support the SNP, even from here - but I know too many SNP officials to believe they are any better than anyone else.

I know quite a few too, however, my experience of my country under an SNP Government is streets ahead of it under Labour. It's also a far more caring country that any of the other three in the Union.

There are numpties in every party, but I think the SNP have, in the main, got it right.

Labour grew fat and complacent, just as the SNP will - in fact, many SNP officials are ex-Labour, such is their integrity.

Some rather than many and that's why I didn't vote for my MSP last time round - she is ex Labour. I only voted SNP in my second vote, didn't use my first. But I'll vote for her next time.

However, I'm not talking about individuals ( though there are many in the Party I admire - some Charles Kennedys), but the Party as a whole. They are relatively new in power and have, imo, aquitted themselves really well. They'll have to have years of power to become Labour.

[McAz]

Some rather than many and that's why I didn't vote for my MSP last time round - she is ex Labour. I only voted SNP in my second vote, didn't use my first. But I'll vote for her next time.

However, I'm not talking about individuals ( though there are many in the Party I admire - some Charles Kennedys), but the Party as a whole. They are relatively new in power and have, imo, aquitted themselves really well. They'll have to have years of power to become Labour.

Well, I'm happy if your happy - and as an independent Scotland serves my long-terms aspirations I would not want to dissuade anyone who might be looking in from supporting your crusade.

[Claire]

Some rather than many and that's why I didn't vote for my MSP last time round - she is ex Labour. I only voted SNP in my second vote, didn't use my first. But I'll vote for her next time.

However, I'm not talking about individuals ( though there are many in the Party I admire - some Charles Kennedys), but the Party as a whole. They are relatively new in power and have, imo, aquitted themselves really well. They'll have to have years of power to become Labour.

Well, I'm happy if your happy - and as an independent Scotland serves my long-terms aspirations I would not want to dissuade anyone who might be looking in from supporting your crusade.

Independence is a cross party thing.

Believe it or not we even have a "Conservatives for Independence" Group up here

Too many people equate it with the SNP but the Greens, the Socialist Parties, and Lib Dem and Labour members support it too. SNP are driving it as they are our Government and it's their main reason for forming in the first place, but people of all parties and none support it.

Thank you anyway McAz. If we get another referendum I hope we can have another great thread on here like we did last time.

[McAz]

Some rather than many and that's why I didn't vote for my MSP last time round - she is ex Labour. I only voted SNP in my second vote, didn't use my first. But I'll vote for her next time.

However, I'm not talking about individuals ( though there are many in the Party I admire - some Charles Kennedys), but the Party as a whole. They are relatively new in power and have, imo, aquitted themselves really well. They'll have to have years of power to become Labour.

Well, I'm happy if your happy - and as an independent Scotland serves my long-terms aspirations I would not want to dissuade anyone who might be looking in from supporting your crusade.

Independence is a cross party thing.

Believe it or not we even have a "Conservatives for Independence" Group up here

Too many people equate it with the SNP but the Greens, the Socialist Parties, and Lib Dem and Labour members support it too. SNP are driving it as they are our Government and it's their main reason for forming in the first place, but people of all parties and none support it.

Thank you anyway McAz. If we get another referendum I hope we can have another great thread on here like we did last time.

And hopefully next time you won't disenfranchise Scots elsewhere in the UK simply because, for all kinds of valid reasons, they have the misfortune not to live in Scotland.

[Guest]

The point is, no-one is being given just £20 per week and expected to survive on that, even if you're sanctioned for not accepting work you get double that.

You either get JSA or ESA. if he can't work it is probably ESA which is £100 a week or so and you can also sometimes claim PIP as well, it looks like it was that was cut to the lower amount of PIP.

The fact that these Momentum morons expect people are so stupid that they believe people are given just £20 a week to live on just shows how stupid they are.

Moronic/ trolling left-wing guests are ruining this part of the forum, you should only be allowed to start a thread if you're registered.

A friend of mine was given £20.16 a week to live on. In 2016 I was given £15.40 a week to live on for 11 weeks then £0 for 15 weeks. Are you aware that people have died of starvation after being sanctioned with £0 a week? One of which was an ex soldier.

[Claire]

Some rather than many and that's why I didn't vote for my MSP last time round - she is ex Labour. I only voted SNP in my second vote, didn't use my first. But I'll vote for her next time.

However, I'm not talking about individuals ( though there are many in the Party I admire - some Charles Kennedys), but the Party as a whole. They are relatively new in power and have, imo, aquitted themselves really well. They'll have to have years of power to become Labour.

Well, I'm happy if your happy - and as an independent Scotland serves my long-terms aspirations I would not want to dissuade anyone who might be looking in from supporting your crusade.

Independence is a cross party thing.

Believe it or not we even have a "Conservatives for Independence" Group up here

Too many people equate it with the SNP but the Greens, the Socialist Parties, and Lib Dem and Labour members support it too. SNP are driving it as they are our Government and it's their main reason for forming in the first place, but people of all parties and none support it.

Thank you anyway McAz. If we get another referendum I hope we can have another great thread on here like we did last time.

And hopefully next time you won't disenfranchise Scots elsewhere in the UK simply because, for all kinds of valid reasons, they have the misfortune not to live in Scotland.

Me personally? I agree it should be people living and working here except in cases like the armed forces personnel. Sorry!

[Guest]

English media

Right wing: Express (and Sunday), Sun (and Sunday), Star, Mail, Telegraph (and Sunday) and FT
Centre Right: Mail on Sunday, BBC, ITN, Sky, C5 News, Metro, Huff Post, London Standard, EADT and Western Press
Centre: Guardian, Independent
Centre Left: Observer, Byline media
Left: Morning Star, Canary

[Ray of Sunshine]

A friend of mine was given £20.16 a week to live on. In 2016 I was given £15.40 a week to live on for 11 weeks then £0 for 15 weeks. Are you aware that people have died of starvation after being sanctioned with £0 a week? One of which was an ex soldier.

No they haven't.

Momentumite guest(s), why not register so we can see how many bullshitters are posting on here?

Or is all Gigabit?

[Ray of Sunshine]

English media

Right wing: Express (and Sunday), Sun (and Sunday), Star, Mail, Telegraph (and Sunday) and FT
Centre Right: Mail on Sunday, BBC, ITN, Sky, C5 News, Metro, Huff Post, London Standard, EADT and Western Press
Centre: Guardian, Independent
Centre Left: Observer, Byline media
Left: Morning Star, Canary

But considering most people get their news from either the TV or the internet they're nowhere near as important as they once were.

If they ever were that important, it certainly wasn't The Sun "wot won it".

As for Guardian and Independent being "centre", have you actually ever read either of those publications?

And Huff Post, Centre Right? It's a well-known left-wing website you clown.

[Ray of Sunshine]

Can I put "Guest" on ignore?

Can't deal with the idiocy/ trolling anymore.

[McAz]

A friend of mine was given £20.16 a week to live on. In 2016 I was given £15.40 a week to live on for 11 weeks then £0 for 15 weeks. Are you aware that people have died of starvation after being sanctioned with £0 a week? One of which was an ex soldier.

Yes it happens - I have an autistic friend who fell foul of the DWP and was left with next to nothing - fortunately a "privileged" phone call accelerated his case.