North Korea.

North Korea.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu May 24, 2018 10:26 pm

No change.
The Yanks have refused to talk to North Korea for sixty years.
Trump doesn't have the bottle for the meeting.
Trump was never going to show.
America have never wanted peace.
Sanctions sanctions sanctions are the American way of economic warfare.
Do as we say or die.
That is not diplomacy.
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Re: North Korea.

Postby Cannydc » Thu May 24, 2018 10:52 pm

With the handshake between the presidents of North and South Korea, Trump saw US influence in the area flying out of the window.

In the pre-summit negotiations he has clearly sent in his negotiators with a brief to ensure that the N Koreans lose face, by repeatedly comparing them with Libya.

Asians do not lose face lightly. The whole process was doomed before it really started.
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Re: North Korea.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu May 24, 2018 11:00 pm

North Korea: A Threat or A Victim? Some Facts.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/north-kor ... ts/5615502
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Re: North Korea.

Postby Si_Crewe » Thu May 24, 2018 11:04 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:No change.
The Yanks have refused to talk to North Korea for sixty years.
Trump doesn't have the bottle for the meeting.
Trump was never going to show.
America have never wanted peace.
Sanctions sanctions sanctions are the American way of economic warfare.
Do as we say or die.
That is not diplomacy.


That's a strange interpretation of events.

I just finished watching a news report where Mike Pompeo was explaining how teams of delegates from the US and NK had been working together to organise the meeting and over the last week it's become apparent that all communication with NK has simply halted.

Course, I guess the yanks would say that but, in the absence of any information to contradict that explanation, it's all there is to go on.
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Re: North Korea.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu May 24, 2018 11:13 pm

North Korea: Is Trump Trying to Back Out of the Singapore Summit in Mid-June 2018

Pyongyang has been further infuriated Washington’s comparing North Korea’s fate with that of Gaddafi-era Libya and continued joint military drills with South Korea.
It sounds like Washington is trying to play double on N Korea, and China, after the trade war was seemingly settled.

As to Kim Jong-Un and North Korea – let’s face it, Kim Jong-un at the beginning gave away everything without getting anything back. He was ready to disarm completely,

To me this sounds like Pence’s statement and Bolton’s horrifying comparison with Libya was done on purpose, since the US wants to back out of the summit and the meeting – and pursue its belligerent course against Pyongyang – this also on Bolton’s advice to Trump. Bolton wants war. He was the one who basically instigated the war scenarios against Iraq.

Bolton does definitely not want peace, never wanted peace.

Will see what happens. But I also believe that the mid-June Singapore summit will not take place, or if it does, it probably won’t lead to anything that makes the two Koreas safer.

I believe the only good and sustainable thing is a peace agreement between the two Koreas, north and south – and that South Korea, as a sovereign nation, will ask the US for denuclearization of the Peninsula, to dismantle its military base, starting with the nuclear arsenal.

More .... https://www.globalresearch.ca/north-kor ... 18/5641547
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Re: North Korea.

Postby Cannydc » Thu May 24, 2018 11:19 pm

"To me this sounds like Pence’s statement and Bolton’s horrifying comparison with Libya was done on purpose, since the US wants to back out of the summit and the meeting – and pursue its belligerent course against Pyongyang – this also on Bolton’s advice to Trump. Bolton wants war. He was the one who basically instigated the war scenarios against Iraq."

My point exactly.

"How can we kill this nonsense off" ?

"Just insult the little fuckers - then we can blame them when it all kicks off"
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Re: North Korea.

Postby Si_Crewe » Thu May 24, 2018 11:22 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Pyongyang has been further infuriated Washington’s comparing North Korea’s fate with that of Gaddafi-era Libya and continued joint military drills with South Korea.


That's Trump for ya'.

They started off refering to "the Libya model" in reference to how Libya agreed to halt it's nuclear weapons program in 2003 (?).
Trump then made a statement where he suggested "the Libya model" actually involved bombing the shit out of a country to assist with a coup that led to Gaddafi being found hiding in a sewer and having a large knife shoved up his arse in 2011.

I'm sure this did wonders for LRM's enthusiasm for embracing "the Libya model".
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Re: North Korea.

Postby Grafenwalder » Fri May 25, 2018 12:19 am

A few months ago Trump was calling Kim Jong-Un "little rocket man", then get's tetchy when NK foreign minister called Pence a "political dummy" after Pence had made his crass 'Libya model' statement. So it's only ok for the US to sling out insults, but not any other country.

Trumps speech was a laugh too..bragging about "our military which is THE MOST powerful anywhere in THE WORRRRRLD".

Oh brother! :roll:

Trump is looking an absolute idiot in the eyes of the world as Jong-Un has said he's still prepared to meet "at any time and in any way."

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/24/asia ... index.html
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Re: North Korea.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri May 25, 2018 12:37 am

Insightful opinion piece

Washington Holds Gun to North Korea’s Head

The prospects for peace diplomacy between the US and North Korea took a sudden hit after President Donald Trump issued an extraordinary threat to Kim Jong Un. It was in effect a death threat.

Trump warned last week that if the North Korean leader does not comply with Washington’s demands for complete denuclearization, then Kim would “end up like Gaddafi”. Trump added that North Korea would be “decimated” if it did not give up its nuclear weapons.

Arguably, Trump’s rhetoric of violence towards another state is a violation of international law and the United Nations charter.

It was not the time first time the American president has engaged in criminal intimidation of the northeast Asian nation. Last September, he told the United Nations general assembly that North Korea would be “totally destroyed”.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49488.htm
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Re: North Korea.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri May 25, 2018 12:38 am

Fewer people and nations can believe a word that comes from America.
Fewer people and nations trust America.
The world has had enough.
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Re: North Korea.

Postby Guest » Fri May 25, 2018 2:20 am

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Fewer people and nations can believe a word that comes from America.
Fewer people and nations trust America.
The world has had enough.





But what you gonna do lol.
Fuck NK, Pretty soon when the people start to starve due to no money coming in from America to behave. They will turn on little rocket man as will his Generals.
Funny how you support a regime that kills it's people by the thousands.
Trump doesn't give a shit what a nonentity like you thinks of him.
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Re: North Korea.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri May 25, 2018 7:14 am

Guest wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Fewer people and nations can believe a word that comes from America.
Fewer people and nations trust America.
The world has had enough.





But what you gonna do lol.
Fuck NK, Pretty soon when the people start to starve due to no money coming in from America to behave. They will turn on little rocket man as will his Generals.
Funny how you support a regime that kills it's people by the thousands.
Trump doesn't give a shit what a nonentity like you thinks of him.

Right so all us none entities including you shouldn't think .... shouldn't discuss or have a point of view?
What a dumb arse you are.
No money coming from America?
Please explain.
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Re: North Korea.

Postby FiFi » Fri May 25, 2018 7:18 am

Rolluplostinspace wrote:No change.
The Yanks have refused to talk to North Korea for sixty years.
Trump doesn't have the bottle for the meeting.
Trump was never going to show.
America have never wanted peace.
Sanctions sanctions sanctions are the American way of economic warfare.
Do as we say or die.
That is not diplomacy.



well just tear yourselves away from your royal weddings and have at it sport :wink:
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Re: North Korea.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri May 25, 2018 10:12 pm

So the reality show man might turn up after all.
If I was Kim I'd tell him to fuck off.
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Re: North Korea.

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