Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby malamute » Thu May 31, 2018 8:27 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ctims.html

What absolute scumbags and just two of several exposed now.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Lady Murasaki » Thu May 31, 2018 8:30 am

Doesn’t diminish the suffering, pain or loss of those who’ve lost loved ones in the tragedy.

Nice try though.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Guest » Thu May 31, 2018 8:40 am

Get list of tenants. Give them housing. Everyone else who comes looking for cash lock up or deport if here illegally. Easy.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Claire » Thu May 31, 2018 8:46 am

malamute wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5786659/Illegal-immigrants-lived-luxury-hotel-falsely-claiming-Grenfell-Tower-victims.html

What absolute scumbags and just two of several exposed now.



You'll always get scumbags who exploit every situation. The worst ones in this case are the people who made the decision on the cladding and the people who treated the residents as if they were nothing.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Guest » Thu May 31, 2018 9:01 am

Claire wrote:
malamute wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5786659/Illegal-immigrants-lived-luxury-hotel-falsely-claiming-Grenfell-Tower-victims.html

What absolute scumbags and just two of several exposed now.



You'll always get scumbags who exploit every situation. The worst ones in this case are the people who made the decision on the cladding and the people who treated the residents as if they were nothing.


The ones who flouted fire safety precautions in the building also have responsibility to bear.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Claire » Thu May 31, 2018 9:49 am

Guest wrote:
Claire wrote:
malamute wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5786659/Illegal-immigrants-lived-luxury-hotel-falsely-claiming-Grenfell-Tower-victims.html

What absolute scumbags and just two of several exposed now.



You'll always get scumbags who exploit every situation. The worst ones in this case are the people who made the decision on the cladding and the people who treated the residents as if they were nothing.


The ones who flouted fire safety precautions in the building also have responsibility to bear.


Which ones?
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Guest » Thu May 31, 2018 9:58 am

Claire wrote:
Guest wrote:
Claire wrote:
malamute wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5786659/Illegal-immigrants-lived-luxury-hotel-falsely-claiming-Grenfell-Tower-victims.html

What absolute scumbags and just two of several exposed now.



You'll always get scumbags who exploit every situation. The worst ones in this case are the people who made the decision on the cladding and the people who treated the residents as if they were nothing.


The ones who flouted fire safety precautions in the building also have responsibility to bear.


Which ones?


The ones who flouted fire safety precautions. Blocking corridors, leaving fire doors ajar, using non PAT tested appliances etc. Sub-letting (illegally) so knowing how many were in the building to be rescued was difficult. They have their burden of responsibility do they not?
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby malamute » Thu May 31, 2018 10:10 am

Lady Murasaki wrote:Doesn’t diminish the suffering, pain or loss of those who’ve lost loved ones in the tragedy.

Nice try though.


I didnt say it did. Go and start your own thread.

this thread is about scumbags who pretend they were involved in a terrible fire and get help to the tune of £125,000 plus other assistance. you have got to be a real sicko to see people burned to death and then say “hey, we could pretend we lived there and see what WE can get out of this tragedy.”

They had also been in this country illegally for years and should be deported in my opinion.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Lady Murasaki » Thu May 31, 2018 10:14 am

malamute wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Doesn’t diminish the suffering, pain or loss of those who’ve lost loved ones in the tragedy.

Nice try though.


I didnt say it did. Go and start your own thread.

this thread is about scumbags who pretend they were involved in a terrible fire and get help to the tune of £125,000 plus other assistance. you have got to be a real sicko to see people burned to death and then say “hey, we could pretend we lived there and see what WE can get out of this tragedy.”

They had also been in this country illegally for years and should be deported in my opinion.


No you don’t come straight out and say what you really want to say though do you?
But your thread is still an attempt to undermine the real pain and loss of the victims of Grenfell, who have been in the news this week with heartbreaking accounts of how their loved ones died.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Claire » Thu May 31, 2018 10:18 am

Guest wrote:
Claire wrote:
Guest wrote:
Claire wrote:
malamute wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5786659/Illegal-immigrants-lived-luxury-hotel-falsely-claiming-Grenfell-Tower-victims.html

What absolute scumbags and just two of several exposed now.



You'll always get scumbags who exploit every situation. The worst ones in this case are the people who made the decision on the cladding and the people who treated the residents as if they were nothing.


The ones who flouted fire safety precautions in the building also have responsibility to bear.


Which ones?


The ones who flouted fire safety precautions. Blocking corridors, leaving fire doors ajar, using non PAT tested appliances etc. Sub-letting (illegally) so knowing how many were in the building to be rescued was difficult. They have their burden of responsibility do they not?


No. The main cause was the cladding. Who PAT tests their household appliances? Blocking corridors? With what? Sub-letting? Why was it allowed?
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Brad and Dan » Thu May 31, 2018 10:27 am

malamute wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Doesn’t diminish the suffering, pain or loss of those who’ve lost loved ones in the tragedy.

Nice try though.


I didnt say it did. Go and start your own thread.

this thread is about scumbags who pretend they were involved in a terrible fire and get help to the tune of £125,000 plus other assistance. you have got to be a real sicko to see people burned to death and then say “hey, we could pretend we lived there and see what WE can get out of this tragedy.”

They had also been in this country illegally for years and should be deported in my opinion.


The systems were so hopeless at Tory Ken and Chelsea Housing they were absolutely clueless as to who lived in that block. Even the Mail agrees. That's why the Tories shpuld never be in charge of anything, they ruined the econmy, doubled our debt, gave us stupid Brexit, ruined the NHS, pulled out of EuroTom so cancer treatments will be few and far between. I mean who votes for these morons?

Good call
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Guest » Thu May 31, 2018 10:35 am

malamute wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5786659/Illegal-immigrants-lived-luxury-hotel-falsely-claiming-Grenfell-Tower-victims.html

What absolute scumbags and just two of several exposed now.


Why didn't Rudd have them deported? Why are they STILL in the UK? Do you NOW understand how hopeless the Tories are? :shake head:
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby MungoBrush » Thu May 31, 2018 11:28 am

Guest wrote:The ones who flouted fire safety precautions in the building also have responsibility to bear.


No-one flouted the fire regulations.
The cladding used was certified according to the European fire resistance standard.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Cannydc » Thu May 31, 2018 2:54 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Guest wrote:The ones who flouted fire safety precautions in the building also have responsibility to bear.


No-one flouted the fire regulations.
The cladding used was certified according to the European fire resistance standard.


A really stupid comment.

ALL claddings are certified according to the European fire resistance standard. They are given a rating, A to F, A being the top rating. Reynobond PE had a certificate based on a rating of B.

Some in the construction industry regarded this to be the required standard for use on buildings over 18m in height, though the government says this was wrong and it should have been A rated.

And it should.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby MungoBrush » Thu May 31, 2018 3:03 pm

Cannydc wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Guest wrote:The ones who flouted fire safety precautions in the building also have responsibility to bear.


No-one flouted the fire regulations.
The cladding used was certified according to the European fire resistance standard.


A really stupid comment.

ALL claddings are certified according to the European fire resistance standard. They are given a rating, A to F, A being the top rating. Reynobond PE had a certificate based on a rating of B.

Some in the construction industry regarded this to be the required standard for use on buildings over 18m in height, though the government says this was wrong and it should have been A rated.

And it should.



Why do you think it was a stupid comment if you agree with it?
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