Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Lady Murasaki » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:45 am

A faulty fridge fire shouldn’t have caused that much mayhem though. It should have been contained but the rest of the building was so hazardous, the residents had raised concerns about that numerous times.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:12 am

So he should have isolated his fridge? Fire hazard?
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:35 am

Lady Murasaki wrote:A faulty fridge fire shouldn’t have caused that much mayhem though. It should have been contained but the rest of the building was so hazardous, the residents had raised concerns about that numerous times.


You are joking, right?
The fridge was housed in a wooden kitchen unit.
The fire then spread across the unit to the uPVC windows.
After melting the uPVC it spread to the outside panels, whilst the kitchen door was alight.
The carpet then caught fire and spread to the rest of the flat.
Once the outside panels were ablaze nothing could stop the fire.

Youtube some fire brigade videos on how a fire will spread in minutes.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Lady Murasaki » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:58 am

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Lady Murasaki wrote:A faulty fridge fire shouldn’t have caused that much mayhem though. It should have been contained but the rest of the building was so hazardous, the residents had raised concerns about that numerous times.


You are joking, right?
The fridge was housed in a wooden kitchen unit.
The fire then spread across the unit to the uPVC windows.
After melting the uPVC it spread to the outside panels, whilst the kitchen door was alight.
The carpet then caught fire and spread to the rest of the flat.
Once the outside panels were ablaze nothing could stop the fire.

Youtube some fire brigade videos on how a fire will spread in minutes.


No I’m not joking. This is the sort of thing residents in tower blocks are told.
If a fire breaks out, stay put while it’s contained and put out.
That’s why so many people died, they took that advice and stayed in the block.
Even the firemen admitted it was the wrong advice in the end.

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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:48 am

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Guest wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:A faulty fridge fire shouldn’t have caused that much mayhem though. It should have been contained but the rest of the building was so hazardous, the residents had raised concerns about that numerous times.


You are joking, right?
The fridge was housed in a wooden kitchen unit.
The fire then spread across the unit to the uPVC windows.
After melting the uPVC it spread to the outside panels, whilst the kitchen door was alight.
The carpet then caught fire and spread to the rest of the flat.
Once the outside panels were ablaze nothing could stop the fire.

Youtube some fire brigade videos on how a fire will spread in minutes.


No I’m not joking. This is the sort of thing residents in tower blocks are told.
If a fire breaks out, stay put while it’s contained and put out.
That’s why so many people died, they took that advice and stayed in the block.
Even the firemen admitted it was the wrong advice in the end.

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It was the right advice because a fire in a flat in a high rise affects everyone when it starts to spread.

It says stay put unless.... :roll:
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Lady Murasaki » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:25 am

Can you string a better argument together? This is tiresome.
If you look at the unless part, it says ‘the fire brigade will make an assessment’. Many were told to stay put when they should have got out.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:44 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:Can you string a better argument together? This is tiresome.
If you look at the unless part, it says ‘the fire brigade will make an assessment’. Many were told to stay put when they should have got out.


Sigh

The first usage of the word unless is right at the very top, first sentence.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Lady Murasaki » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:21 pm

Guest wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Can you string a better argument together? This is tiresome.
If you look at the unless part, it says ‘the fire brigade will make an assessment’. Many were told to stay put when they should have got out.


Sigh

The first usage of the word unless is right at the very top, first sentence.


“Unless the fire is in or affecting your flat”

So as I said, residents are advised to stay put in their own flats.

Jeez! You just can’t get the thinking guests today! :again?:
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:10 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Guest wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Can you string a better argument together? This is tiresome.
If you look at the unless part, it says ‘the fire brigade will make an assessment’. Many were told to stay put when they should have got out.


Sigh

The first usage of the word unless is right at the very top, first sentence.


“Unless the fire is in or affecting your flat”

So as I said, residents are advised to stay put in their own flats.

Jeez! You just can’t get the thinking guests today! :again?:


A fire in a block of flats will affect your flat. End of.

No lifts will work, etc.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Lady Murasaki » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:47 pm

Guest wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Guest wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Can you string a better argument together? This is tiresome.
If you look at the unless part, it says ‘the fire brigade will make an assessment’. Many were told to stay put when they should have got out.


Sigh

The first usage of the word unless is right at the very top, first sentence.


“Unless the fire is in or affecting your flat”

So as I said, residents are advised to stay put in their own flats.

Jeez! You just can’t get the thinking guests today! :again?:


A fire in a block of flats will affect your flat. End of.

No lifts will work, etc.


They aren’t told that though. They are advised to stay put.
Seems it’s mixed messages that’s part of the problem.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:37 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Guest wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Guest wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Can you string a better argument together? This is tiresome.
If you look at the unless part, it says ‘the fire brigade will make an assessment’. Many were told to stay put when they should have got out.


Sigh

The first usage of the word unless is right at the very top, first sentence.


“Unless the fire is in or affecting your flat”

So as I said, residents are advised to stay put in their own flats.

Jeez! You just can’t get the thinking guests today! :again?:


A fire in a block of flats will affect your flat. End of.

No lifts will work, etc.


They aren’t told that though. They are advised to stay put.
Seems it’s mixed messages that’s part of the problem.


And reckless people using faulty appliances.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Lady Murasaki » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:47 pm

Regardless, the appliance going faulty shouldn’t have caused that much damage.
The fire safety measures for a building that size were disastrous.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Stooo » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:48 pm

Guest wrote:And reckless people using faulty appliances.


Cause fires that are supposed to be contained within one housing unit. How much would it cost to PAT test all appliances in social housing properties vs putting up dodgy cladding because it looks nice?
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Punk » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:05 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Guest wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Guest wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Can you string a better argument together? This is tiresome.
If you look at the unless part, it says ‘the fire brigade will make an assessment’. Many were told to stay put when they should have got out.


Sigh

The first usage of the word unless is right at the very top, first sentence.


“Unless the fire is in or affecting your flat”

So as I said, residents are advised to stay put in their own flats.

Jeez! You just can’t get the thinking guests today! :again?:


A fire in a block of flats will affect your flat. End of.

No lifts will work, etc.


They aren’t told that though. They are advised to stay put.
Seems it’s mixed messages that’s part of the problem.


I live on the 5th storey of 6, we had 2 fires in our block and we were told to stay put, I was out with my 2 children quicker than you could say stay put. The irony for our block was British Gas were supposed to clad our blocks of flats but they pulled out, so we never had the worry of dodgy cheap cladding.
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Re: Illegal immigrants claimed to be in Grenfell fire

Postby Lady Murasaki » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:09 pm

Punk wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Guest wrote:
A fire in a block of flats will affect your flat. End of.

No lifts will work, etc.


They aren’t told that though. They are advised to stay put.
Seems it’s mixed messages that’s part of the problem.


I live on the 5th storey of 6, we had 2 fires in our block and we were told to stay put, I was out with my 2 children quicker than you could say stay put. The irony for our block was British Gas were supposed to clad our blocks of flats but they pulled out, so we never had the worry of dodgy cheap cladding.


Why did you go against the advice? Most people would do as their told, at their own peril even!
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