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Postby Fletch » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:51 am

The Absence of Diplomacy Is Isolating Washington
By Paul Craig Roberts

The dissolution of the Soviet Union removed the constraint on Washington’s unilateralism. The neoconservatives, who had just risen to power, seized the opportunity and replaced diplomacy with threat and coercion. One infamous example is from the George W. Bush regime when the Deputy Secretary of State, Richard Armitage, told Pakistan to do as you are told or you will be bombed into the stone age. We have this on the authority of the president of Pakistan himself, who did as he was told.

In the case of Russia during the Putin era, this level of threat is excessive as Russia can bomb back. So the threat has been reduced to: do as you are told or we will impose sanctions.

Sanctions are an assertion of hegemony of one country over another. They are an assertion that the imposer of sanctions has extra-legal international authority to tell other sovereign states what to do or to suffer consequences if they do not.

Once the constraint on Washington’s unilateralism was removed, sanctions became an instrument of US foreign policy and replaced diplomacy. The Clinton regime used them on Iraq. When the UN reported that the effect of the Clinton regime’s sanctions on Iraq was the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children, Clinton’s Jewish Secretary of State was asked by Lesley Stahl on the national TV program “60 Minutes” if the sanctions were worth the deaths of a half million children. Madeliene Albright said yes, “the price is worth it.” The Jews feel the same way about the Palestinians. As the Palestinians’ country has been stolen by Israel, what is the point of Palestinians? Killing them is Israel’s answer. As one Israeli minister said, we are only doing what the Americans did to the native Americans known as Indians. As America shares this crime with Israel, little wonder that Washington always vetoes any UN action against Israel for its crimes against the Palestinians. The two criminal states stand united against the world.

And from Washington’s view, it has been “worth it” ever since as Washington during the 21st century proceeded to destroy in whole or part seven countries, and is still working on several more.

Any time a country doesn’t follow Washington’s orders, Washington imposes sanctions. Iran, North Korea, Russia, and Venezuela are all bearers of Washington’s sanctions. Moreover, Washington forces other countries, including its European allies, to also impose sanctions or Washington will sanction them as well.

Full article http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49578.htm

Blowback will be a bitch, and there's always blowback eventually.
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Re: THAT 'SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP' LOOKING A BIT TATTY

Postby Rockstar » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:03 pm

^^Hear hear
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Re: THAT 'SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP' LOOKING A BIT TATTY

Postby MungoBrush » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:11 pm

Fletch wrote:The Absence of Diplomacy Is Isolating Washington
By Paul Craig Roberts

The dissolution of the Soviet Union removed the constraint on Washington’s unilateralism. The neoconservatives, who had just risen to power, seized the opportunity and replaced diplomacy with threat and coercion. One infamous example is from the George W. Bush regime when the Deputy Secretary of State, Richard Armitage, told Pakistan to do as you are told or you will be bombed into the stone age. We have this on the authority of the president of Pakistan himself, who did as he was told.


To be fair - and I'm not defending this in any way if it did happen - the Pakistani president said that he heard it 3rd hand.
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Re: THAT 'SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP' LOOKING A BIT TATTY

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:19 pm

Fletch wrote:The Absence of Diplomacy Is Isolating Washington
By Paul Craig Roberts

The dissolution of the Soviet Union removed the constraint on Washington’s unilateralism. The neoconservatives, who had just risen to power, seized the opportunity and replaced diplomacy with threat and coercion. One infamous example is from the George W. Bush regime when the Deputy Secretary of State, Richard Armitage, told Pakistan to do as you are told or you will be bombed into the stone age. We have this on the authority of the president of Pakistan himself, who did as he was told.

In the case of Russia during the Putin era, this level of threat is excessive as Russia can bomb back. So the threat has been reduced to: do as you are told or we will impose sanctions.

Sanctions are an assertion of hegemony of one country over another. They are an assertion that the imposer of sanctions has extra-legal international authority to tell other sovereign states what to do or to suffer consequences if they do not.

Once the constraint on Washington’s unilateralism was removed, sanctions became an instrument of US foreign policy and replaced diplomacy. The Clinton regime used them on Iraq. When the UN reported that the effect of the Clinton regime’s sanctions on Iraq was the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children, Clinton’s Jewish Secretary of State was asked by Lesley Stahl on the national TV program “60 Minutes” if the sanctions were worth the deaths of a half million children. Madeliene Albright said yes, “the price is worth it.” The Jews feel the same way about the Palestinians. As the Palestinians’ country has been stolen by Israel, what is the point of Palestinians? Killing them is Israel’s answer. As one Israeli minister said, we are only doing what the Americans did to the native Americans known as Indians. As America shares this crime with Israel, little wonder that Washington always vetoes any UN action against Israel for its crimes against the Palestinians. The two criminal states stand united against the world.

And from Washington’s view, it has been “worth it” ever since as Washington during the 21st century proceeded to destroy in whole or part seven countries, and is still working on several more.

Any time a country doesn’t follow Washington’s orders, Washington imposes sanctions. Iran, North Korea, Russia, and Venezuela are all bearers of Washington’s sanctions. Moreover, Washington forces other countries, including its European allies, to also impose sanctions or Washington will sanction them as well.

Full article http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49578.htm

Blowback will be a bitch, and there's always blowback eventually.

The meeting with Kim and Donald will be interesting.
America are not going to negotiate with Kim they are going to tell him what he has to do.
If he doesn't do it the Libya plan will be used.
It came out a while back that the CIA had a plan or plans to kill Kim.
Kim has a lot of courage to go to this meeting.
Would the CIA have the nerve to take him out in front of the world.
Will a bird strike hit his plane?
Will a lone nut job shoot him?
America cannot be trusted and Kim knows it.
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Re: THAT 'SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP' LOOKING A BIT TATTY

Postby MungoBrush » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:27 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:The meeting with Kim and Donald will be interesting.
America are not going to negotiate with Kim they are going to tell him what he has to do.
If he doesn't do it the Libya plan will be used.
It came out a while back that the CIA had a plan or plans to kill Kim.
Kim has a lot of courage to go to this meeting.
Would the CIA have the nerve to take him out in front of the world.
Will a bird strike hit his plane?
Will a lone nut job shoot him?
America cannot be trusted and Kim knows it.


Or will they outsource it to those Russians to smear his hotel door handle with Novichok?
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Postby Si_Crewe » Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:56 am

Did nobody else notice the posh looking old bird sat next to Trump at the G7 summit?

That's Christine Lagarde, the French MD of the IMF and ex French minister of Finance.

She was good mates with Nicolas Sarkozy, the ex French president who's as bent as a 3 bob note.
They were both mates with French businessman Bernard Tapie and, after he got locked-up for fraud, Lagarde decided it'd be reasonable to compensate him with nearly half a billion dollars of French public money.
Nobody else in France thought it was reasonable, though, and she ended-up charged with criminal negligence.
This made Lagarde very angry because she didn't appreciate being treated like a criminal, just for giving away nearly half a billion dollars to help a friend get back on his feet.
Despite this, she was eventually convicted of criminal negligence but the judge decided that she shouldn't face any punishment for her actions.
Can't have her going to jail with the riff raff can we?

So, she handed in her notice at the French Ministry of Finance and moved to the IMF, where she now controls pretty much every country's money.

I'm sure she's doing a super job there and nobody has any reason to be concerned.
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Postby Punk » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:20 am

If Hillary had pulled half the strokes Trump has, the Republicans on here would be going apoplectic but they are very strangely silent. Not one has called him out.
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Re: THAT 'SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP' LOOKING A BIT TATTY

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:25 am

Si_Crewe wrote:Did nobody else notice the posh looking old bird sat next to Trump at the G7 summit?

That's Christine Lagarde, the French MD of the IMF and ex French minister of Finance.

She was good mates with Nicolas Sarkozy, the ex French president who's as bent as a 3 bob note.
They were both mates with French businessman Bernard Tapie and, after he got locked-up for fraud, Lagarde decided it'd be reasonable to compensate him with nearly half a billion dollars of French public money.
Nobody else in France thought it was reasonable, though, and she ended-up charged with criminal negligence.
This made Lagarde very angry because she didn't appreciate being treated like a criminal, just for giving away nearly half a billion dollars to help a friend get back on his feet.
Despite this, she was eventually convicted of criminal negligence but the judge decided that she shouldn't face any punishment for her actions.
Can't have her going to jail with the riff raff can we?

So, she handed in her notice at the French Ministry of Finance and moved to the IMF, where she now controls pretty much every country's money.

I'm sure she's doing a super job there and nobody has any reason to be concerned.

They are there because the whole thing is about forcing N Korea to stop creating its own money interest free.
It's about installing a private central bank to create all money at interest to them.
That's all it has ever been about.
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Re: THAT 'SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP' LOOKING A BIT TATTY

Postby Punk » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:52 am

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Si_Crewe wrote:Did nobody else notice the posh looking old bird sat next to Trump at the G7 summit?

That's Christine Lagarde, the French MD of the IMF and ex French minister of Finance.

She was good mates with Nicolas Sarkozy, the ex French president who's as bent as a 3 bob note.
They were both mates with French businessman Bernard Tapie and, after he got locked-up for fraud, Lagarde decided it'd be reasonable to compensate him with nearly half a billion dollars of French public money.
Nobody else in France thought it was reasonable, though, and she ended-up charged with criminal negligence.
This made Lagarde very angry because she didn't appreciate being treated like a criminal, just for giving away nearly half a billion dollars to help a friend get back on his feet.
Despite this, she was eventually convicted of criminal negligence but the judge decided that she shouldn't face any punishment for her actions.
Can't have her going to jail with the riff raff can we?

So, she handed in her notice at the French Ministry of Finance and moved to the IMF, where she now controls pretty much every country's money.

I'm sure she's doing a super job there and nobody has any reason to be concerned.

They are there because the whole thing is about forcing N Korea to stop creating its own money interest free.
It's about installing a private central bank to create all money at interest to them.
That's all it has ever been about.


Looks like USA has given Syria up for the time being. :cheers:
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Postby Keyser » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:24 pm

Punk wrote:If Hillary had pulled half the strokes Trump has, the Republicans on here would be going apoplectic but they are very strangely silent. Not one has called him out.


As long as you spout shit about loving Jesus, guns and conspiracy theories whilst hating LGBT and non WASP people, evolution/science and agnostics/atheists most of Trump's supporters and the Rethuglicans in general could not give a shit what appalling mistakes/practices you commit.

That's the Bible belt in a nutshell.

How incredible in the most powerful democracy in the world in the 21st century - the Founding Fathers (many of whom were agnostic) are turning in their graves. :shake head:
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Re: THAT 'SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP' LOOKING A BIT TATTY

Postby Punk » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:54 pm

Keyser wrote:
Punk wrote:If Hillary had pulled half the strokes Trump has, the Republicans on here would be going apoplectic but they are very strangely silent. Not one has called him out.


As long as you spout shit about loving Jesus, guns and conspiracy theories whilst hating LGBT and non WASP people, evolution/science and agnostics/atheists most of Trump's supporters and the Rethuglicans in general could not give a shit what appalling mistakes/practices you commit.

That's the Bible belt in a nutshell.

How incredible in the most powerful democracy in the world in the 21st century - the Founding Fathers (many of whom were agnostic) are turning in their graves. :shake head:


Absolutely.
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