THAT 'SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP' LOOKING A BIT TATTY

THAT 'SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP' LOOKING A BIT TATTY

Postby Cannydc » Thu May 31, 2018 8:41 pm

The US is to impose tariffs on steel and aluminium imports from key allies in Europe and North America.

The US said a 25% tax on steel and 10% tax on aluminium from the EU, Mexico and Canada will start at midnight.

The move immediately triggered vows of retaliation from Mexico, Canada and the EU, which called the tariffs "protectionism, pure and simple".

The UK said it was "deeply disappointed" by the US decision, which followed weeks of negotiations.


Which look like a practice run for our post-Brexit negotiations for free trade agreements.

That is, a shambles.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44320221
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Cannydc wrote:The US is to impose tariffs on steel and aluminium imports from key allies in Europe and North America.

The US said a 25% tax on steel and 10% tax on aluminium from the EU, Mexico and Canada will start at midnight.

The move immediately triggered vows of retaliation from Mexico, Canada and the EU, which called the tariffs "protectionism, pure and simple".

The UK said it was "deeply disappointed" by the US decision, which followed weeks of negotiations.


Which look like a practice run for our post-Brexit negotiations for free trade agreements.

That is, a shambles.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44320221


and May holds hands with that creep. More fool her.
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Postby Guest » Thu May 31, 2018 9:54 pm

Cannydc wrote:The US is to impose tariffs on steel and aluminium imports from key allies in Europe and North America.

The US said a 25% tax on steel and 10% tax on aluminium from the EU, Mexico and Canada will start at midnight.

The move immediately triggered vows of retaliation from Mexico, Canada and the EU, which called the tariffs "protectionism, pure and simple".

The UK said it was "deeply disappointed" by the US decision, which followed weeks of negotiations.


Which look like a practice run for our post-Brexit negotiations for free trade agreements.

That is, a shambles.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44320221


UK govt - "deeply disappointed".

Most other people - "could have fucking told you that would happen fucking weeks ago" :slap: :fan:
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Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:03 am

At the same time Europe are refusing to follow Americas dictat the we stop trading with Iran.
It's looking like most of the civilised world is backing away from the empire of chaos.
Fuck the dollar we'll trade in Euros and Yuan.
Fuck America.
Fuck NATO.
That is what Trump is now creating and his handlers must know what they're doing.
Europe is being pushed eastward.
Is this the long slow birth of the Eurasian empire starting to really take off thanks to America?
Where will the UK stand?
Alone in between America and Eurasia.
Eurasia dwarfs America for resources manpower and wealth.
Dangerous times.
If America becomes much more isolationist it may well trigger the withdrawal of America troops from the middle east so they can take over the south American continent for all its needs.
Crazy?
Maybe.
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Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:56 am

America has decided to fight trade wars with China, Europe, Canada And Mexico Simultaneously and impose sanctions on North Korea and Iran.
Have I left anyone out?
Seems to me the Yanks are out to seriously damage global trade and finance which may well result in accelerating the next financial collapse.
They must know what they are doing and why. :dunno:
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Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:30 pm

Britain threatened retaliation last night as Donald Trump triggered a global trade war.

The US President's decision to hit the European Union with tariffs on steel and aluminium sparked fury as Brussels warned it would not back down under 'threat' from the US President.

International Trade Secretary Liam Fox, who spoke to the US commerce secretary yesterday, said the UK would not rule out counter-measures over the 'patently absurd' tariffs.


Meanwhile, European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker called for the EU to respond by boosting ties with Russia – a move likely to cause discomfort in Downing Street.

Theresa May had led calls for Mr Trump to exclude the bloc from any measures in order to protect the resurgent British steel industry.

The President's decision to pursue his 'America First' programme will raise concerns about deteriorating transatlantic relations.

'There are so many areas, so many domains where we can co-operate in a better way with Russia, not forgetting what our differences are. This Russia-bashing has to be brought to an end.'

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mi ... ailsignout
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Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:34 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:At the same time Europe are refusing to follow Americas dictat the we stop trading with Iran.
It's looking like most of the civilised world is backing away from the empire of chaos.
Fuck the dollar we'll trade in Euros and Yuan.
Fuck America.
Fuck NATO.
That is what Trump is now creating and his handlers must know what they're doing.
Europe is being pushed eastward.
Is this the long slow birth of the Eurasian empire starting to really take off thanks to America?
Where will the UK stand?
Alone in between America and Eurasia.

Eurasia dwarfs America for resources manpower and wealth.
Dangerous times.
If America becomes much more isolationist it may well trigger the withdrawal of America troops from the middle east so they can take over the south American continent for all its needs.
Crazy?
Maybe.

Looking more like it by the day.
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Postby banana chewits » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:33 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:America has decided to fight trade wars with China, Europe, Canada And Mexico Simultaneously and impose sanctions on North Korea and Iran.
Have I left anyone out?
Seems to me the Yanks are out to seriously damage global trade and finance which may well result in accelerating the next financial collapse.
They must know what they are doing and why. :dunno:


i think trump really believes he's the most powerful person on earth.
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Re: THAT 'SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP' LOOKING A BIT TATTY

Postby Cannydc » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:18 pm

There was me thinking that USA are our prime target for a FREE TRADE agreement, post-Brexit.

I wonder what Plan B is...
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Postby calitom » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:26 pm

hey geniuses......the usa is not imposing tariffs out of nothing. Look at the tariffs already on american goods. It is just an evening out of the playing field.
Is that a tough concept for you? Or are you just too lazy or too mind numbed from reading these ridiculous publications that dont state the facts.

When one side(for example China) tariffs the hell out of you and restricts imports of goods---and the other side(for example the USA doesnt tariff their goods--creating huge trade deficits and loss of jobs)
then it is perfectly reasonable to tariff China in order to create a fair playing field.
Is that so difficult to understand??

The ignorance on TSD is just appalling at times.
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Postby Stooo » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:32 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:At the same time Europe are refusing to follow Americas dictat the we stop trading with Iran.
It's looking like most of the civilised world is backing away from the empire of chaos.
Fuck the dollar we'll trade in Euros and Yuan.
Fuck America.
Fuck NATO.
That is what Trump is now creating and his handlers must know what they're doing.
Europe is being pushed eastward.
Is this the long slow birth of the Eurasian empire starting to really take off thanks to America?
Where will the UK stand?
Alone in between America and Eurasia.
Eurasia dwarfs America for resources manpower and wealth.
Dangerous times.
If America becomes much more isolationist it may well trigger the withdrawal of America troops from the middle east so they can take over the south American continent for all its needs.
Crazy?
Maybe.

Meanwhile you totally ignore the fact that the dotard is in bed with Putin, Jinping, Duterte and other dictators across the world. Basically, everything's being run by the mafia and for the mafia. You're right about a lot of things Jack but when it comes to predicting the NWO you're borderline retarded...
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Re: THAT 'SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP' LOOKING A BIT TATTY

Postby Stooo » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:33 pm

banana chewits wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:America has decided to fight trade wars with China, Europe, Canada And Mexico Simultaneously and impose sanctions on North Korea and Iran.
Have I left anyone out?
Seems to me the Yanks are out to seriously damage global trade and finance which may well result in accelerating the next financial collapse.
They must know what they are doing and why. :dunno:


i think trump really believes he's the most powerful person on earth.


Actually, he doesn't realise he is. And that's a good thing.
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Postby Guest » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:34 pm

calitom wrote:hey geniuses......the usa is not imposing tariffs out of nothing. Look at the tariffs already on american goods. It is just an evening out of the playing field.
Is that a tough concept for you? Or are you just too lazy or too mind numbed from reading these ridiculous publications that dont state the facts.

When one side(for example China) tariffs the hell out of you and restricts imports of goods---and the other side(for example the USA doesnt tariff their goods--creating huge trade deficits and loss of jobs)
then it is perfectly reasonable to tariff China in order to create a fair playing field.
Is that so difficult to understand??

The ignorance on TSD is just appalling at times.


What tariffs? A trade deficit doesn't result in job losses. What does, is companies like Trump Inc. closing their US operations and moving to China.

Is that so difficult to understand??

The ignorance on TSD and so much other stuff, is just appalling at times. :leer:
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Postby Stooo » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:36 pm

calitom wrote:hey geniuses......the usa is not imposing tariffs out of nothing. Look at the tariffs already on american goods. It is just an evening out of the playing field.
Is that a tough concept for you? Or are you just too lazy or too mind numbed from reading these ridiculous publications that dont state the facts.

When one side(for example China) tariffs the hell out of you and restricts imports of goods---and the other side(for example the USA doesnt tariff their goods--creating huge trade deficits and loss of jobs)
then it is perfectly reasonable to tariff China in order to create a fair playing field.
Is that so difficult to understand??

The ignorance on TSD is just appalling at times.


Tariffs were dropped from China after a massive bribe. Besides, where would Ivanka get her frocks made?
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Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:36 pm

Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:At the same time Europe are refusing to follow Americas dictat the we stop trading with Iran.
It's looking like most of the civilised world is backing away from the empire of chaos.
Fuck the dollar we'll trade in Euros and Yuan.
Fuck America.
Fuck NATO.
That is what Trump is now creating and his handlers must know what they're doing.
Europe is being pushed eastward.
Is this the long slow birth of the Eurasian empire starting to really take off thanks to America?
Where will the UK stand?
Alone in between America and Eurasia.
Eurasia dwarfs America for resources manpower and wealth.
Dangerous times.
If America becomes much more isolationist it may well trigger the withdrawal of America troops from the middle east so they can take over the south American continent for all its needs.
Crazy?
Maybe.

Meanwhile you totally ignore the fact that the dotard is in bed with Putin, Jinping, Duterte and other dictators across the world. Basically, everything's being run by the mafia and for the mafia. You're right about a lot of things Jack but when it comes to predicting the NWO you're borderline retarded...

The NWO isn't something that we are waiting for it's something that's already arrived.
Perpetual war mad economics banks standing in for governments.
Just needs some loose ends tying up.
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