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Postby Guest » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:13 am

Torys increasing funding IN EXCESS of that suggested on the leave bus. Stuff like this is possible when the economy is managed competently.
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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby McAz » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:32 am

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McAz wrote:The term "Sunderland Massive" is our local generic for Brexit voters - it has nothing to do with Sunderland as such.


And Sunderland being a safe Labour seat


Relevance? :scratch:
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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby Cannydc » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:33 am

Guest wrote:Torys increasing funding IN EXCESS of that suggested on the leave bus. Stuff like this is possible when the economy is managed competently.


Stuff like this is possible by harvesting the Magic Money Tree and relying on a non-existent Brexit Bonus - as admitted already by plenty of Tories.
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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby McAz » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:41 am

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Guest wrote:Torys increasing funding IN EXCESS of that suggested on the leave bus. Stuff like this is possible when the economy is managed competently.


Stuff like this is possible by harvesting the Magic Money Tree and relying on a non-existent Brexit Bonus - as admitted already by plenty of Tories.

It is not possible without increasing the tax burden on the poorest. It is nothing to do with a Brexit Bonus.

“The Brexit dividend tosh was expected but treats the public as fools. Sad to see government slide to populist arguments rather than evidence on such an important issue. This will make it harder to have a rational debate about the ‘who & how’ of funding and sharing this fairly.”

(Sarah Wollaston, Conservative Chair of the Commons Health and Social Care Committee)
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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby Cannydc » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:43 am

McAz wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Guest wrote:Torys increasing funding IN EXCESS of that suggested on the leave bus. Stuff like this is possible when the economy is managed competently.


Stuff like this is possible by harvesting the Magic Money Tree and relying on a non-existent Brexit Bonus - as admitted already by plenty of Tories.

It is not possible without increasing the tax burden on the poorest. It is nothing to do with a Brexit Bonus.

“The Brexit dividend tosh was expected but treats the public as fools. Sad to see government slide to populist arguments rather than evidence on such an important issue. This will make it harder to have a rational debate about the ‘who & how’ of funding and sharing this fairly.”

(Sarah Wollaston, Conservative Chair of the Commons Health and Social Care Committee)
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Tories stealing another Labour policy by BORROWING MORE, TAXING MORE and INVESTING IN PUBLIC SERVICES ?

Sacrilege.
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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby McAz » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:47 am

Cannydc wrote:
McAz wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Guest wrote:Torys increasing funding IN EXCESS of that suggested on the leave bus. Stuff like this is possible when the economy is managed competently.


Stuff like this is possible by harvesting the Magic Money Tree and relying on a non-existent Brexit Bonus - as admitted already by plenty of Tories.

It is not possible without increasing the tax burden on the poorest. It is nothing to do with a Brexit Bonus.

“The Brexit dividend tosh was expected but treats the public as fools. Sad to see government slide to populist arguments rather than evidence on such an important issue. This will make it harder to have a rational debate about the ‘who & how’ of funding and sharing this fairly.”

(Sarah Wollaston, Conservative Chair of the Commons Health and Social Care Committee)


Tories stealing another Labour policy by BORROWING MORE, TAXING MORE and INVESTING IN PUBLIC SERVICES ?

Sacrilege.


Not quite - it's not Labour policy to the place the burden on the poorest.
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Re: Save our NHS!

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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:01 pm

Guest wrote:Torys increasing funding IN EXCESS of that suggested on the leave bus. Stuff like this is possible when the economy is managed competently.

The economy is in the shitter!
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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby Punk » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:16 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Guest wrote:Torys increasing funding IN EXCESS of that suggested on the leave bus. Stuff like this is possible when the economy is managed competently.

The economy is in the shitter!


Managed competently? :haha: :haha: Even the Treasury admit to a £122 BILLION black hole in their finances because of Brexit. Let me know when the economy is managed well. :gigglesnshit:
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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby Punk » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:52 pm

FT, Telegraph and Times butcher May's claim of a Brexit dividend today, the Times are especially brutal. "It is as mendacious as the lie on the big red bus". :shake head:

No doubt the lowest intelligence will believe her, esp sad trolls from a Newbury council estate. :shake head:
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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby McAz » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:31 pm

Taxpayers will contribute ‘a bit more’: May lays out NHS funding plan

Tax rises to support a £20.5 billion-a-year boost to the NHS budget will be “fair and balanced”, Theresa May has vowed.

(PA 18.6.18)


As "fair and balanced" as they have been so far - and as the FT reports?

"Income inequality is likely to increase during the next four years by the most since Margaret Thatcher was prime minister, according to a report from the Resolution Foundation think-tank.

Inflation, poor wage growth and the government’s changes to taxation and spending are likely to lead to a bigger squeeze in living standards for those on low incomes over the course of the current parliament, the report says."
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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby Punk » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:58 pm

McAz wrote:Taxpayers will contribute ‘a bit more’: May lays out NHS funding plan

Tax rises to support a £20.5 billion-a-year boost to the NHS budget will be “fair and balanced”, Theresa May has vowed.

(PA 18.6.18)


As "fair and balanced" as they have been so far - and as the FT reports?

"Income inequality is likely to increase during the next four years by the most since Margaret Thatcher was prime minister, according to a report from the Resolution Foundation think-tank.

Inflation, poor wage growth and the government’s changes to taxation and spending are likely to lead to a bigger squeeze in living standards for those on low incomes over the course of the current parliament, the report says."


Her and Hammond won't close any tax loopholes though, clobber the 95% as per usual.
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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby Cannydc » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:37 pm

It may be "A bit more" to Jack Tories.

To many more, especially in the winter, it will be eat or heat.
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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby McAz » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:48 pm

There isn’t a Brexit dividend says Institute for Fiscal Studies,

There is literally, arithmetically, no money.

"If you look at the arrangement we've come to with the European Union in terms of paying our exit bill — and you add to that the commitment the Government’s already made to keep funding farmers and so on — there is literally arithmetically no money.

"In addition, we know, because the Government has accepted this, that the public finances will be worse as a result of the Brexit vote.

"As a pure, sort of arithmetic point of view, over this period, there’s no money.

"Actually the public finances will be £15 billion or so worse off, not better off, so there really just isn’t money there for a Brexit dividend,"

(Paul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies via Business Insider 17.6.18)
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Re: Save our NHS!

Postby Stooo » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:17 pm

Cannydc wrote:Let's see where they go when Nissan, Honda and Toyota finally run out of patience.

Treeza's already tried bribes, but Japanese executives are nobodies fools. They won't wear import / export tariffs on the parts that go into their cars.


They shat themselves just after the vote, two years later however...
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