Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby Stooo » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:07 pm

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/wil ... ssion=true

Are you still undecided? Are you someone who – pummelled by weeks of claim and counter-claim – has been left exhausted and annoyed? Have you been looking for answers, yet all you’ve encountered are insults and exaggeration?

Maybe you’re so fed up you think to hell with it, let’s throw caution to the wind and vote Brexit. Imagine, however, what happens next. Imagine how you will feel on 24 June?

Having woken on Friday to the news we’re quitting the EU, you will assume that those who persuaded you to take that leap of faith have a plan about what to do next.

So imagine how dismayed you will feel when you discover, instead, that Nigel Farage, Michael Gove and Boris Johnson can’t agree among themselves what life outside the EU looks like? They may be united by a ferocious loathing of the EU, but they have no shared plan for the future.
Gridlock

So you will look towards our leaders in Westminster to sort out the mess. Instead, they argue among themselves: the Conservatives descend into a bloody leadership election; Parliament enters years of constitutional gridlock trying to extricate itself from the intricate legal stitching which binds us to the EU and gives us access to world markets.

Then you discover just how unprepared the Government is – that there simply aren’t enough trade negotiators in Whitehall, for instance, with the expertise to renegotiate 50 or so international trade accords.

As politicians bicker, you become increasingly unnerved by what’s happening in the economy, too: overseas investors take fright; money flows out of the country; our credit rating is slashed; the interest on our borrowing goes up; unemployment rises; sterling tanks; prices in the shops go up.

Nicola Sturgeon soon announces that preparations have started for a second independence referendum, claiming it is the only way to keep Scotland in the EU. And this time most commentators think that she will win.

Still, at least they will finally sort out our borders, right? After all, ending mass immigration was the Brexiteers biggest claim of all.

So imagine how you’ll feel when you discover that they don’t have a plan for that either? Some argue for a new land border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland to stop EU immigrants coming in through the “back door”. Others that a new border would harm the peace in Northern Ireland. The Australian points system which they advocate is no solution either – it has led to immigration levels twice as high as in the UK.
Panic

Panic starts to spread among the 1.3 million Brits who live, study and retire elsewhere in the EU. Spanish politicians start to complain about paying for public services used by British pensioners. If we start excluding Spanish doctors and nurses, why should they keep paying for our pensioners?

And then there’s that faintly queasy feeling you get when you see Donald Trump on the TV, visiting the UK on Friday, declaring his joy at the Brexit vote.

Meanwhile Angela Merkel invites President Obama to an emergency summit to discuss the fallout – the UK is, of course, excluded from what soon emerges as the new “special relationship” between the US and Germany.

The Brexiteers say you will “regain control”. But it won’t feel like that. Instead, the economy lurches to recession; there’s upheaval in Westminster; no plan to allay concerns about immigration; another referendum in Scotland; a steep slide in Britain’s standing in the world.

Our wonderful country adrift – not in control. And for what? Nigel, Michael and Boris still won’t be able to tell you why.

Nick Clegg


Project fear indeed...
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby Cannydc » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:47 pm

If the Tories hasn't managed to massage the unemployment figures (we all know how) that commentary would be 100% correct.

And you know the scary bit ?

WE HAVEN'T EVEN LEFT YET....
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby Ray of Sunshine » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:52 pm

Also 10 years since the banking/ financial crisis when the Remainers now supporting the banks were then (rightly IMO) slamming them.
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby Stooo » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:56 pm

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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby calitom » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:28 pm

Brexit hasn't happened after all this time. So its looking like there really is no democracy in the UK after all.
They let you go to the polls just like they let a classroom of 8 yr olds play pretend voting...
..But its not cute anymore when adults are involved.
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby Stooo » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:42 pm

calitom wrote:Brexit hasn't happened after all this time. So its looking like there really is no democracy in the UK after all.
They let you go to the polls just like they let a classroom of 8 yr olds play pretend voting...
..But its not cute anymore when adults are involved.


It looks like brexit is a shit idea.

Half of the country knew that from the start...
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby Cannydc » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:59 pm

Stooo - re. Times front page.

Fruit picking is NOT FUN, in any way.

It's long hours, back breaking, hot (or wet and miserable) and you only get paid for what you pick. It was how we earned summer holiday money as kids, strawberries, raspberries, blackcurrants, gooseberries, apples, you name it, we picked it.
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby Keyser » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:42 pm

calitom wrote:Brexit hasn't happened after all this time. So its looking like there really is no democracy in the UK after all.
They let you go to the polls just like they let a classroom of 8 yr olds play pretend voting...
..But its not cute anymore when adults are involved.


Anyone who believed in this total catastrofuck had less functioning neurons than a prion with Alzheimer's.

The UK is finished as a world power.

And we once (for the time) benevolently ran the whole fucking show not so long ago.
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby Stooo » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:44 pm

Cannydc wrote:Stooo - re. Times front page.

Fruit picking is NOT FUN, in any way.

It's long hours, back breaking, hot (or wet and miserable) and you only get paid for what you pick. It was how we earned summer holiday money as kids, strawberries, raspberries, blackcurrants, gooseberries, apples, you name it, we picked it.


It's worth it for the sovereignty or something, chin up Canny lad; best foot forward!
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby Ray of Sunshine » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:49 pm

Stooo wrote:
It looks like brexit is a shit idea.



Whether it's a good idea idea or not is irrelevant, it's what people voted for and if you go against that then there will be bigger problems than Airbus potentially leaving because the illusion of democracy will have gone forever.
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby Gabby » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:50 pm

It was the longest day yesterday! :Wiiiine!: :thud:
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby MungoBrush » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:53 pm

Stooo wrote:
calitom wrote:Brexit hasn't happened after all this time. So its looking like there really is no democracy in the UK after all.
They let you go to the polls just like they let a classroom of 8 yr olds play pretend voting...
..But its not cute anymore when adults are involved.


It looks like brexit is a shit idea.

Half of the country knew that from the start...


Not quite half unfortunately.
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby Stooo » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:01 pm

Ray of Sunshine wrote:
Stooo wrote:
It looks like brexit is a shit idea.



Whether it's a good idea idea or not is irrelevant, it's what people voted for and if you go against that then there will be bigger problems than Airbus potentially leaving because the illusion of democracy will have gone forever.


Mate, it's totally relevant. If you shared a car into work that ran on petrol and five out of the eight people travelling with you voted to fill up with diesel, what would you do?
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby Stooo » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:02 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Stooo wrote:
calitom wrote:Brexit hasn't happened after all this time. So its looking like there really is no democracy in the UK after all.
They let you go to the polls just like they let a classroom of 8 yr olds play pretend voting...
..But its not cute anymore when adults are involved.


It looks like brexit is a shit idea.

Half of the country knew that from the start...


Not quite half unfortunately.


As is being proven. I would like to congratulate you on your regret but, meh...
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Re: Wednesday June 22nd 2016

Postby banana chewits » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:13 pm

how many that voted leave wish they hadn't now?
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