East Coast train line under public control

Re: East Coast train line under public control

Postby MungoBrush » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:32 pm

Punk wrote:So many countries? List 40 if there are that many. :gigglesnshit:


There's over 100 failed nationalised companies in the UK alone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... ed_Kingdom

I'm not going to do your homework for you so you can start with a list of all of the former eastern bloc countries
Then move on to France, Germany, Spain, Venezuala, Greece, etc etc
They've all got equally long lists of failures.
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Re: East Coast train line under public control

Postby McAz » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:13 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Punk wrote:So many countries? List 40 if there are that many. :gigglesnshit:


There's over 100 failed nationalised companies in the UK alone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... ed_Kingdom

I'm not going to do your homework for you so you can start with a list of all of the former eastern bloc countries
Then move on to France, Germany, Spain, Venezuala, Greece, etc etc
They've all got equally long lists of failures.

Where is the list of the 100 failed nationalised companies? :dunno:
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Re: East Coast train line under public control

Postby Guest » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:17 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Punk wrote:So many countries? List 40 if there are that many. :gigglesnshit:


There's over 100 failed nationalised companies in the UK alone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... ed_Kingdom

I'm not going to do your homework for you so you can start with a list of all of the former eastern bloc countries
Then move on to France, Germany, Spain, Venezuala, Greece, etc etc
They've all got equally long lists of failures.


:bored: Boring lying bullshit Tory scum :hand:
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Re: East Coast train line under public control

Postby Cannydc » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:19 pm

jra wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
jra wrote:Right.

According to the link below the UK is in the top 10 in the world for rail usage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... rail_usage

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ty_map.svg


Passenger numbers are falling.

http://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_fil ... -18-q4.pdf

Fares are rising faster than wages, or inflation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42536159

The ticketing system is farcical

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/95688 ... twork-rail

And the timetable fiasco is beyond satire...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -explained

Inarguable facts that point to the miserable failure of franchising, and to the need for change. That change is re-nationalisation.


Re-nationalisation won't guarantee adequate funding of the railways. Past governments have proved that.


But it will be under control of our government, not greedy companies only in the game to wheedle their way to a quick buck and run when the going gets tough.
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Re: East Coast train line under public control

Postby Punk » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:27 pm

McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Punk wrote:So many countries? List 40 if there are that many. :gigglesnshit:


There's over 100 failed nationalised companies in the UK alone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... ed_Kingdom

I'm not going to do your homework for you so you can start with a list of all of the former eastern bloc countries
Then move on to France, Germany, Spain, Venezuala, Greece, etc etc
They've all got equally long lists of failures.

Where is the list of the 100 failed nationalised companies? :dunno:


Yeah most of those are the British Airways, Aerospace, Gas, Telecom etc, which were successful companies that were privatised. Mungo loves posting links that destroy his argument like those YouTube videos. :roll:
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Re: East Coast train line under public control

Postby McAz » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:29 pm

Punk wrote:
McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Punk wrote:So many countries? List 40 if there are that many. :gigglesnshit:


There's over 100 failed nationalised companies in the UK alone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... ed_Kingdom

I'm not going to do your homework for you so you can start with a list of all of the former eastern bloc countries
Then move on to France, Germany, Spain, Venezuala, Greece, etc etc
They've all got equally long lists of failures.

Where is the list of the 100 failed nationalised companies? :dunno:


Yeah most of those are the British Airways, Aerospace, Gas, Telecom etc, which were successful companies that were privatised. Mungo loves posting links that destroy his argument like those YouTube videos. :roll:


An embarrassment to rocking horses. :shake head:
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Re: East Coast train line under public control

Postby MungoBrush » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:56 pm

McAz wrote:
Punk wrote:
McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Punk wrote:So many countries? List 40 if there are that many. :gigglesnshit:


There's over 100 failed nationalised companies in the UK alone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... ed_Kingdom

I'm not going to do your homework for you so you can start with a list of all of the former eastern bloc countries
Then move on to France, Germany, Spain, Venezuala, Greece, etc etc
They've all got equally long lists of failures.

Where is the list of the 100 failed nationalised companies? :dunno:


Yeah most of those are the British Airways, Aerospace, Gas, Telecom etc, which were successful companies that were privatised. Mungo loves posting links that destroy his argument like those YouTube videos. :roll:


An embarrassment to rocking horses. :shake head:


Yes, British Leyland was a rip roaring success wasnt it?
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Re: East Coast train line under public control

Postby McAz » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:01 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
McAz wrote:An embarrassment to rocking horses. :shake head:


Yes, British Leyland was a rip roaring success wasnt it?


Compared to your performance on here, undoubtedly. :pmsl:
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Re: East Coast train line under public control

Postby jra » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:57 am

Cannydc wrote:
jra wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
jra wrote:Right.

According to the link below the UK is in the top 10 in the world for rail usage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... rail_usage

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ty_map.svg


Passenger numbers are falling.

http://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_fil ... -18-q4.pdf

Fares are rising faster than wages, or inflation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42536159

The ticketing system is farcical

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/95688 ... twork-rail

And the timetable fiasco is beyond satire...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -explained

Inarguable facts that point to the miserable failure of franchising, and to the need for change. That change is re-nationalisation.


Re-nationalisation won't guarantee adequate funding of the railways. Past governments have proved that.


But it will be under control of our government, not greedy companies only in the game to wheedle their way to a quick buck and run when the going gets tough.


It's not quite as simple as that. Network Rail which controls most of the infrastructure is already a public company. The TOCs are privately owned and yes they have to make a profit, but every TOC franchise has to adhere to numerous commitments, otherwise they'll lose their franchise, e.g. VTEC in this case.

n February 2018, with the situation now seen as more urgent, the date for the end of VTEC's contract was brought forwards to "a small number of months", with the Secretary considering replacing it with either a short term not for profit arrangement with VTEC, or renationalisation under an operator of last resort, until the ECP could begin in 2020.[40] On 16 May 2018 it was announced that the London North Eastern Railway, a temporary government controlled operator of last resort, would take over the operation of the line from 24 June 2018, thus ending VTEC's contract.[41][42]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Tr ... ast#Demise
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