More Novichok?

Re: More Novichok?

Postby Snookerballs » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:31 pm

And how did they manage that wearing Jeans and a Gillet when clean up and decontamination required Breathing Apparatus and specialist decontamination clothing
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby Guest » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:46 pm

It helped the Tories win with a threat from Russia. And it ensured the Russians got out and voted for Putin. He would have won anyway but people would not have bothered voting. All the old people feared Corbyn with his Russian hat on. Trump backed Britain as our greatest Allie.

In short. It worked.

For the rest of us that saw through all the BS it has saved time of reading anymore BS.
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby Raggamuffin » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:47 pm

Snookerballs wrote:And how did they manage that wearing Jeans and a Gillet when clean up and decontamination required Breathing Apparatus and specialist decontamination clothing


Well someone managed it without all that apparatus.

I'm still not convinced it would take so long for the poison to work though.
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby Raggamuffin » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:48 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:The Strange Russian Alibi

Like many, my first thought at the interview of Boshirov and Petrov – which apparently are indeed their names – is that they were very unconvincing. The interview itself seemed to be set up around a cramped table with a poor camera and lighting, and the interviewer seemed pretty hopeless at asking probing questions that would shed any real light.

I had in fact decided that their story was highly improbable, until I started seeing the storm of twitter posting, much of it from mainstream media journalists, which stated that individual things were impossible which were, in fact, not impossible at all.

The first and most obvious regards the weather on 3 and 4 March. It is in fact absolutely true that, if the two had gone down to Salisbury on 3 March with the intention of going to Stonehenge, they would have been unable to get there because of the snow. It is therefore perfectly possible that they went back the next day to try again; and public transport out of Salisbury was still severely disrupted, and many roads closed, on 4 March. Proof of this is not at all difficult to find.
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In general it is worth observing that the Skripals, and poor Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley, all managed to achieve almost complete CCTV invisibility in their widespread movements around Salisbury at the key times, while in contrast “Petrov and Boshirov” managed to be frequently caught in high quality all the time during their brief visit.

This is especially remarkable in the case of the Skripals’ location around noon on 4 March. The government can only maintain that they returned home at this time, as they insist they got the nerve agent from the doorknob. But why was their car so frequently caught on CCTV leaving, but not at all returning? It appears very much more probable that they came into contact with the nerve agent somewhere else, while they were out.

I shall write a further post on these timing questions shortly.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... ian-alibi/


Wow! We await with baited breath :yikes:

I think you should check out who Craig Murray is Lordy before making a fool of yourself.
Meanwhile just obey orders and don't question anything as you have been trained to do.


I think it's worthwhile reviewing their timeline

1. They fly from Moscow to Gatwick (a 5 hour flight) and arrive 3pm Friday and get to their London hotel 6pm
2. On Saturday, they get a late morning train to Salisbury and 90 minutes later they are back on the train to London
3. On Sunday, they catch the same train to Salisbury, and less than 2 hours later they are back on the London train
4. On Sunday at 6:30pm they get the train to Heathrow and catch a plane back to Moscow.


Hmmm, all that way just to go to Salisbury/Stonehenge.
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby MungoBrush » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:27 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Hmmm, all that way just to go to Salisbury/Stonehenge.


They probably just fancied a weekend city break
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby Fletch » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:47 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Snookerballs wrote:And how did they manage that wearing Jeans and a Gillet when clean up and decontamination required Breathing Apparatus and specialist decontamination clothing


Well someone managed it without all that apparatus.

I'm still not convinced it would take so long for the poison to work though.


^^^ This.

And for the deadly nature of it, how come the Skripals survived when according to the data for it, and CW experts, it's so deadly as to kill without question and quickly.
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby Fletch » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:58 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:The Strange Russian Alibi

Like many, my first thought at the interview of Boshirov and Petrov – which apparently are indeed their names – is that they were very unconvincing. The interview itself seemed to be set up around a cramped table with a poor camera and lighting, and the interviewer seemed pretty hopeless at asking probing questions that would shed any real light.

I had in fact decided that their story was highly improbable, until I started seeing the storm of twitter posting, much of it from mainstream media journalists, which stated that individual things were impossible which were, in fact, not impossible at all.

The first and most obvious regards the weather on 3 and 4 March. It is in fact absolutely true that, if the two had gone down to Salisbury on 3 March with the intention of going to Stonehenge, they would have been unable to get there because of the snow. It is therefore perfectly possible that they went back the next day to try again; and public transport out of Salisbury was still severely disrupted, and many roads closed, on 4 March. Proof of this is not at all difficult to find.
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In general it is worth observing that the Skripals, and poor Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley, all managed to achieve almost complete CCTV invisibility in their widespread movements around Salisbury at the key times, while in contrast “Petrov and Boshirov” managed to be frequently caught in high quality all the time during their brief visit.

This is especially remarkable in the case of the Skripals’ location around noon on 4 March. The government can only maintain that they returned home at this time, as they insist they got the nerve agent from the doorknob. But why was their car so frequently caught on CCTV leaving, but not at all returning? It appears very much more probable that they came into contact with the nerve agent somewhere else, while they were out.

I shall write a further post on these timing questions shortly.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... ian-alibi/


Wow! We await with baited breath :yikes:

I think you should check out who Craig Murray is Lordy before making a fool of yourself.
Meanwhile just obey orders and don't question anything as you have been trained to do.


I think it's worthwhile reviewing their timeline

1. They fly from Moscow to Gatwick (a 5 hour flight) and arrive 3pm Friday and get to their London hotel 6pm
2. On Saturday, they get a late morning train to Salisbury and 90 minutes later they are back on the train to London
3. On Sunday, they catch the same train to Salisbury, and less than 2 hours later they are back on the London train
4. On Sunday at 6:30pm they get the train to Heathrow and catch a plane back to Moscow.


Hmmm, all that way just to go to Salisbury/Stonehenge.


Outside of this country, Salisbury and Stonehenge are major attractions with many international visitors.
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby MungoBrush » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:24 pm

Fletch wrote:Outside of this country, Salisbury and Stonehenge are major attractions with many international visitors.


New York gets a lot of international visitors as well
But it only takes a small number to fly planes into the twin towers.
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby MungoBrush » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:13 am

Fletch wrote:ountry, Salisbury and Stonehenge are major attractions with many international visitors.
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:38 pm

If Putin said ok I'm sending these two guys to the UK to face a full and fair trial with all the evidence on the table.
I suspect the UK government would bottle it.
Possibly cause a constitutional crisis at the the same time.
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:42 pm

I forgot to mention all the evidence would include the Skripals attending as witnesses and medical records from the hospitals.
It was mentioned some time ago that the hospital might have treated the Skripals for Fentanyl poisoning nog nerve agent poisoning.
All the cctv of the Skrips and the Russians to be viewed in court and explained timelines the lot.
I think the British government would go into panic mode.
Come on Putin bring it on .... he does still read here yes?
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby MungoBrush » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:37 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:I forgot to mention all the evidence would include the Skripals attending as witnesses and medical records from the hospitals.
It was mentioned some time ago that the hospital might have treated the Skripals for Fentanyl poisoning nog nerve agent poisoning.
All the cctv of the Skrips and the Russians to be viewed in court and explained timelines the lot.
I think the British government would go into panic mode.
Come on Putin bring it on .... he does still read here yes?


Yes of course
Now we know why all you lefties are defending Russia

"MI6 believed that Michael Foot had been a paid informant of the Soviet Union and was prepared to warn the Queen of his “KGB history” when he stood to become prime minister, its officers have revealed in a new book.

The British intelligence apparatus concluded that the evidence presented by a Soviet defector about the Labour leader’s links with the KGB was strong enough to warrant the unprecedented constitutional action."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mi6- ... -vpdtg3lgx

Can't criticise Russia.
Corbyn has probably continued on with the tradition.
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby Raggamuffin » Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:25 pm

I don't quite understand the route these chaps allegedly followed. They were allegedly caught on CCTV near the house, and then somewhere else on their way back to the station. However, it wasn't on their way back to the station. Did they go to Queen Elizabeth gardens specifically to dispose of the bottle? Also, if they were wandering around the suburbs of Salisbury, I doubt they were there sightseeing.
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Re: More Novichok?

Postby LordRaven » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:21 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:I don't quite understand the route these chaps allegedly followed. They were allegedly caught on CCTV near the house, and then somewhere else on their way back to the station. However, it wasn't on their way back to the station. Did they go to Queen Elizabeth gardens specifically to dispose of the bottle? Also, if they were wandering around the suburbs of Salisbury, I doubt they were there sightseeing.


Yes but...

"Luftwaffe “just wanted to see St Paul’s Cathedral”
Hermann Göring, commander-in-chief of the German air force, has denied responsibility for the devastating London blitz, insisting that his pilots “just wanted to see St Paul’s Cathedral”.

Göring explained, “We were all sitting in the mess hall talking about English Baroque architecture, and the subject of St Paul’s Cathedral came up.

“Hans was saying how he loved how the lower storey of the portico extends to the full width of the aisles, while the upper section defines the nave that lies behind it.

“And Fritz said that he loved the balustraded balcony ornamented with alternating pilasters and rectangular windows which are set just below the cornice, creating a sense of lightness.

“And it turned out that every single member of the Luftwaffe was a massive fan of St Paul’s Cathedral
http://newsthump.com/2018/09/14/luftwaf ... cathedral/
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