Rolluplostinspace wrote:Instead of giving them up we need to change what they're made from.
Hemp.
Mass planting on a global scale would give us all the paper and plastic and diesel we need.
It'll grow in every country on almost any soil with no chemicals and it improves the soil and saves the forests.
Holly wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:Instead of giving them up we need to change what they're made from.
Hemp.
Mass planting on a global scale would give us all the paper and plastic and diesel we need.
It'll grow in every country on almost any soil with no chemicals and it improves the soil and saves the forests.
Yes, that a good idea and sounds appealing, but how long will that take to accomplish?
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Holly wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:Instead of giving them up we need to change what they're made from.
Hemp.
Mass planting on a global scale would give us all the paper and plastic and diesel we need.
It'll grow in every country on almost any soil with no chemicals and it improves the soil and saves the forests.
Yes, that a good idea and sounds appealing, but how long will that take to accomplish?
Setting up the hemp growing and processing can be quick apparently.
Dismantling the oil to plastic side of things is a huge problem.
When you drive past huge petrochemical plants usually with a big flame burning that is business on a huge scale.
Breaking down what exists is always difficult and this of course is global.To save the world/oceans there would have to be massive processing plants and distribution and new markets put in place.
So it is a big deal I suppose.
Hemp can be sown in rough stony ground dryish land mountainsides just about any climate and the first crop will be ready in sixteen weeks.
Hemp can replace all paper saving the forests and hemp can be harvested three times a year in most places.Trees take years to grow hemp takes weeks.
Cannydc wrote:In much the same way that we have (by needs must) developed hi-tech solutions for CFCs, exhaust pollutants (catalysers), and developed electric cars, so as demand rises we shall, and already have developed bio-degradable and crucially cheap, practical versions of plastic.
Lady Murasaki wrote:Cannydc wrote:In much the same way that we have (by needs must) developed hi-tech solutions for CFCs, exhaust pollutants (catalysers), and developed electric cars, so as demand rises we shall, and already have developed bio-degradable and crucially cheap, practical versions of plastic.
Yes, it’s about sustenance. We can’t go back to wood/paper because there just aren’t enough trees and the labour costs are just too much for the demand.
Biodegradable plastics are already becoming quite popular, people are ready for the alternatives.
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Lady Murasaki wrote:Cannydc wrote:In much the same way that we have (by needs must) developed hi-tech solutions for CFCs, exhaust pollutants (catalysers), and developed electric cars, so as demand rises we shall, and already have developed bio-degradable and crucially cheap, practical versions of plastic.
Yes, it’s about sustenance. We can’t go back to wood/paper because there just aren’t enough trees and the labour costs are just too much for the demand.
Biodegradable plastics are already becoming quite popular, people are ready for the alternatives.
Hemp replaces tress for paper.
Hemp replaces oil for plastics paints varnishes.
It would also bring new agricultural industries and many could be family sized.
The sowing is standard.
The growing is mostly leave it alone.
The harvesting is mechanised so it isn't to labour intensive.
The retting is also mechanised.
When hemp is used for paper or as biofuel it is carbon neutral.
Another one apparently is seaweed but I know nothing about that.
Lady Murasaki wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:Lady Murasaki wrote:Cannydc wrote:In much the same way that we have (by needs must) developed hi-tech solutions for CFCs, exhaust pollutants (catalysers), and developed electric cars, so as demand rises we shall, and already have developed bio-degradable and crucially cheap, practical versions of plastic.
Yes, it’s about sustenance. We can’t go back to wood/paper because there just aren’t enough trees and the labour costs are just too much for the demand.
Biodegradable plastics are already becoming quite popular, people are ready for the alternatives.
Hemp replaces tress for paper.
Hemp replaces oil for plastics paints varnishes.
It would also bring new agricultural industries and many could be family sized.
The sowing is standard.
The growing is mostly leave it alone.
The harvesting is mechanised so it isn't to labour intensive.
The retting is also mechanised.
When hemp is used for paper or as biofuel it is carbon neutral.
Another one apparently is seaweed but I know nothing about that.
It would need a lot of land to grow it to an extent to make a real difference. Do farmers/landowners have enough faith in its profitability to invest in it?
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Lady Murasaki wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:Lady Murasaki wrote:Cannydc wrote:In much the same way that we have (by needs must) developed hi-tech solutions for CFCs, exhaust pollutants (catalysers), and developed electric cars, so as demand rises we shall, and already have developed bio-degradable and crucially cheap, practical versions of plastic.
Yes, it’s about sustenance. We can’t go back to wood/paper because there just aren’t enough trees and the labour costs are just too much for the demand.
Biodegradable plastics are already becoming quite popular, people are ready for the alternatives.
Hemp replaces tress for paper.
Hemp replaces oil for plastics paints varnishes.
It would also bring new agricultural industries and many could be family sized.
The sowing is standard.
The growing is mostly leave it alone.
The harvesting is mechanised so it isn't to labour intensive.
The retting is also mechanised.
When hemp is used for paper or as biofuel it is carbon neutral.
Another one apparently is seaweed but I know nothing about that.
It would need a lot of land to grow it to an extent to make a real difference. Do farmers/landowners have enough faith in its profitability to invest in it?
I reckon so.
This stuff will grow on more or less any land with no pesticides or other chemical crap.
It's actuall started taking off a few years ago for paper oils textiles so needs accelerating.
Lady Murasaki wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:Lady Murasaki wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:Lady Murasaki wrote:
Hemp replaces tress for paper.
Hemp replaces oil for plastics paints varnishes.
It would also bring new agricultural industries and many could be family sized.
The sowing is standard.
The growing is mostly leave it alone.
The harvesting is mechanised so it isn't to labour intensive.
The retting is also mechanised.
When hemp is used for paper or as biofuel it is carbon neutral.
Another one apparently is seaweed but I know nothing about that.
It would need a lot of land to grow it to an extent to make a real difference. Do farmers/landowners have enough faith in its profitability to invest in it?
I reckon so.
This stuff will grow on more or less any land with no pesticides or other chemical crap.
It's actuall started taking off a few years ago for paper oils textiles so needs accelerating.
I know they grow it in India, they need to start manufacturing it on a larger industrial scale. It needs a humid, mild climate.
People here are too interested in growing maruhana, grow hemp instead!
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