Taking back control...

[Fletch]

1 referendum was sufficient to take us in, 1 is sufficient to take us out.

[McAz]

The people still had a choice, and they are ultimately responsible.
By your measure your kind of suggesting that Governments are to blame for the results of any General Election and that is plain daft.

No, the referendum wasn’t legally binding - the Tory government made the choice and it is they who are responsible.

Long may they bleed.

[jra]

I think Scotland should vote for independence. Then they can stay in the EU, assuming they'll take you. The Scottish will also need a passport to get into the rest of the UK, notably England. They might also wonder where the nuclear submarines based on the Clyde are going (most likely Portsmouth or Plymouth) and all the associated military hardware in Scotland. You're a new country now and all the military stuff belongs to the UK, not Scotland (a new country). You may also want to have a word with NATO with the view of becoming a new member.

Why would they want to join NATO?

It would be in their best interests IMO. Besides, the UK (with Scotland included) was a founder member.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atl ... ng_members

Article 5 of the treaty.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/North_At ... #Article_5

[Rolluplostinspace]

I think Scotland should vote for independence. Then they can stay in the EU, assuming they'll take you. The Scottish will also need a passport to get into the rest of the UK, notably England. They might also wonder where the nuclear submarines based on the Clyde are going (most likely Portsmouth or Plymouth) and all the associated military hardware in Scotland. You're a new country now and all the military stuff belongs to the UK, not Scotland (a new country). You may also want to have a word with NATO with the view of becoming a new member.

Why would they want to join NATO?

It would be in their best interests IMO. Besides, the UK (with Scotland included) was a founder member.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atl ... ng_members

Article 5 of the treaty.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/North_At ... #Article_5

I don't need a history lesson on NATO but thank you.

[McAz]

I think Scotland should vote for independence. Then they can stay in the EU, assuming they'll take you. The Scottish will also need a passport to get into the rest of the UK, notably England. They might also wonder where the nuclear submarines based on the Clyde are going (most likely Portsmouth or Plymouth) and all the associated military hardware in Scotland. You're a new country now and all the military stuff belongs to the UK, not Scotland (a new country). You may also want to have a word with NATO with the view of becoming a new member.

Why would they want to join NATO?

It would be in their best interests IMO. Besides, the UK (with Scotland included) was a founder member.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atl ... ng_members

Article 5 of the treaty.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/North_At ... #Article_5

Who the fuck is going to attack Scotland?

[Maddog]

Is the EU helping to make the breakup as easy as possible for both sides?

Why should they? It's not their problem.

They have a rulebook (that the UK helped to create, hell, it was a Brit who wrote Article 50) that has been agreed to by all of the members to abide to when it comes to trade deals with third countries. The UK has several options including our current deal but still wants some sort of special privileges not afforded to other countries, we know the rules!

I'm sure that the WTO (another trading partner but one who has no democracy whatsoever) will welcome us with open arms when we apply for full membership instead of our present EU associate membership, well that's after Australia, the US, Canada and several other members drop their objections.

Did you ever watch the movie "Misery'?

The female lead in the story, kind of believed that the character played by James Caan, was at fault, because he wanted to leave after her gracious hospitality.

[Maddog]

Yup. Got to make sure they don't run away.

[McAz]

Did you ever watch the movie "Misery'?

The female lead in the story, kind of believed that the character played by James Caan, was at fault, because he wanted to leave after her gracious hospitality.

Europe is more this...



...than this.



But whatever gets you through the night, Maddy.

[Guest]

I think Scotland should vote for independence. Then they can stay in the EU, assuming they'll take you. The Scottish will also need a passport to get into the rest of the UK, notably England. They might also wonder where the nuclear submarines based on the Clyde are going (most likely Portsmouth or Plymouth) and all the associated military hardware in Scotland. You're a new country now and all the military stuff belongs to the UK, not Scotland (a new country). You may also want to have a word with NATO with the view of becoming a new member.

Why would they want to join NATO?

It would be in their best interests IMO. Besides, the UK (with Scotland included) was a founder member.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atl ... ng_members

Article 5 of the treaty.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/North_At ... #Article_5

Who the fuck is going to attack Scotland?

By your logic then...who the fuck is going to attack Britain?

[Guest]

Did you ever watch the movie "Misery'?

The female lead in the story, kind of believed that the character played by James Caan, was at fault, because he wanted to leave after her gracious hospitality.

Europe is more this...



...than this.



But whatever gets you through the night, Maddy.

When's the last time you were in Europe...If ever that is.

[Maddog]

Did you ever watch the movie "Misery'?

The female lead in the story, kind of believed that the character played by James Caan, was at fault, because he wanted to leave after her gracious hospitality.

Europe is more this...



...than this.



But whatever gets you through the night, Maddy.

Don't know the first chick. Is she a bunny boiler too?

[McAz]

Did you ever watch the movie "Misery'?

The female lead in the story, kind of believed that the character played by James Caan, was at fault, because he wanted to leave after her gracious hospitality.

Europe is more this...



...than this.



But whatever gets you through the night, Maddy.

Don't know the first chick. Is she a bunny boiler too?

She can be anything she likes afaic.

[Stooo]

Is the EU helping to make the breakup as easy as possible for both sides?

Why should they? It's not their problem.

They have a rulebook (that the UK helped to create, hell, it was a Brit who wrote Article 50) that has been agreed to by all of the members to abide to when it comes to trade deals with third countries. The UK has several options including our current deal but still wants some sort of special privileges not afforded to other countries, we know the rules!

I'm sure that the WTO (another trading partner but one who has no democracy whatsoever) will welcome us with open arms when we apply for full membership instead of our present EU associate membership, well that's after Australia, the US, Canada and several other members drop their objections.

Did you ever watch the movie "Misery'?

The female lead in the story, kind of believed that the character played by James Caan, was at fault, because he wanted to leave after her gracious hospitality.

Yeah, read the book as well. The female lead was a personification of King's alcoholism.

I'm not sure what that has to do with nation states because it's a shit analogy.

[Maddog]

Is the EU helping to make the breakup as easy as possible for both sides?

Why should they? It's not their problem.

They have a rulebook (that the UK helped to create, hell, it was a Brit who wrote Article 50) that has been agreed to by all of the members to abide to when it comes to trade deals with third countries. The UK has several options including our current deal but still wants some sort of special privileges not afforded to other countries, we know the rules!

I'm sure that the WTO (another trading partner but one who has no democracy whatsoever) will welcome us with open arms when we apply for full membership instead of our present EU associate membership, well that's after Australia, the US, Canada and several other members drop their objections.

Did you ever watch the movie "Misery'?

The female lead in the story, kind of believed that the character played by James Caan, was at fault, because he wanted to leave after her gracious hospitality.

Yeah, read the book as well. The female lead was a personification of King's alcoholism.

I'm not sure what that has to do with nation states because it's a shit analogy.

Well, it's a shit analogy, because you think Caan was an ungrateful bastard.

[jra]

I think Scotland should vote for independence. Then they can stay in the EU, assuming they'll take you. The Scottish will also need a passport to get into the rest of the UK, notably England. They might also wonder where the nuclear submarines based on the Clyde are going (most likely Portsmouth or Plymouth) and all the associated military hardware in Scotland. You're a new country now and all the military stuff belongs to the UK, not Scotland (a new country). You may also want to have a word with NATO with the view of becoming a new member.

Why would they want to join NATO?

It would be in their best interests IMO. Besides, the UK (with Scotland included) was a founder member.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atl ... ng_members

Article 5 of the treaty.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/North_At ... #Article_5

I don't need a history lesson on NATO but thank you.

You asked the question. That was my answer.