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Jamal Khashoggi: Turkey says journalist was murdered in Saudi consulate

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45775819

Journalist critical of the Crown Prince (who coincidentally has been cracking down on dissent) goes missing (read: murdered) after visiting a Saudi embassy.

Wonder if this will get the same response that a murder of a Iranian/Russian journalist would

Nope.

[Fletch]

Popular thread this? Meaning why isn't it in RCT section yet?

You're right Raven, it isn't very popular but you've got to keep a record of the west's corruption and lies.

It's curious how the usual suspects who shout about terrorists, Muslims, 'they've been fighting for thousands of years', 'Religion of Peace and so on don't wish to comment on the actual facts. That being it's the west who recruit mercenaries, train them, arm them, fund them and protect them in order to enact regime change around the world.

I'm happy to keep pointing out the facts and backing it up in this thread rather than clutter the board with a new thread after every outrage.

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I have been reading Fletch and will continue to do so.
Some have concentration issues attention span problems and it's not really their fault.
Everything these days is pushed at people in short quick bursts sound bites headlines.
It's the rapid way of today's world.
Shit loads of information very few details.
Who benefits?
The PTB of course.
Plus this stuff doesn't fit with the quick burst information people are now conditioned to thinking of as news.

[LordRaven]

Popular thread this? Meaning why isn't it in RCT section yet?

You're right Raven, it isn't very popular but you've got to keep a record of the west's corruption and lies.

It's curious how the usual suspects who shout about terrorists, Muslims, 'they've been fighting for thousands of years', 'Religion of Peace and so on don't wish to comment on the actual facts. That being it's the west who recruit mercenaries, train them, arm them, fund them and protect them in order to enact regime change around the world.

I'm happy to keep pointing out the facts and backing it up in this thread rather than clutter the board with a new thread after every outrage.

From the Crusades to the Ottoman Empire there was a lot of bloodshed in the Middle East Felch, please list the western countries that facilitated all that bloodshed???
Take your time.
Your problem is you have blinkered vision and wish only to blame the west, when the fact is muslims are not all the same and have been at war with each other since the death of Mohammed.
Their savagery and thirst for conquest took them all the way to the gates of Vienna but you seem to want to portray them as a peace loving bunch and choose to blame the west for all the problems in the middle east.
So please answer the question above and/or read up to learn a bit about the differing forms of islam and a history of the muslim world and all the bloodshed and conquest involved therein and learn something.
I asked you this question before and you opted to ignore it, I wonder why.

[Rolluplostinspace]

Popular thread this? Meaning why isn't it in RCT section yet?

You're right Raven, it isn't very popular but you've got to keep a record of the west's corruption and lies.

It's curious how the usual suspects who shout about terrorists, Muslims, 'they've been fighting for thousands of years', 'Religion of Peace and so on don't wish to comment on the actual facts. That being it's the west who recruit mercenaries, train them, arm them, fund them and protect them in order to enact regime change around the world.

I'm happy to keep pointing out the facts and backing it up in this thread rather than clutter the board with a new thread after every outrage.

From the Crusades to the Ottoman Empire there was a lot of bloodshed in the Middle East Felch, please list the western countries that facilitated all that bloodshed???
Take your time.
Your problem is you have blinkered vision and wish only to blame the west, when the fact is muslims are not all the same and have been at war with each other since the death of Mohammed.
Their savagery and thirst for conquest took them all the way to the gates of Vienna but you seem to want to portray them as a peace loving bunch and choose to blame the west for all the problems in the middle east.
So please answer the question above and/or read up to learn a bit about the differing forms of islam and a history of the muslim world and all the bloodshed and conquest involved therein and learn something.
I asked you this question before and you opted to ignore it, I wonder why.

And it's been answered many times.

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Popular thread this? Meaning why isn't it in RCT section yet?

You're right Raven, it isn't very popular but you've got to keep a record of the west's corruption and lies.

It's curious how the usual suspects who shout about terrorists, Muslims, 'they've been fighting for thousands of years', 'Religion of Peace and so on don't wish to comment on the actual facts. That being it's the west who recruit mercenaries, train them, arm them, fund them and protect them in order to enact regime change around the world.

I'm happy to keep pointing out the facts and backing it up in this thread rather than clutter the board with a new thread after every outrage.

From the Crusades to the Ottoman Empire there was a lot of bloodshed in the Middle East Felch, please list the western countries that facilitated all that bloodshed???
Take your time.
Your problem is you have blinkered vision and wish only to blame the west, when the fact is muslims are not all the same and have been at war with each other since the death of Mohammed.
Their savagery and thirst for conquest took them all the way to the gates of Vienna but you seem to want to portray them as a peace loving bunch and choose to blame the west for all the problems in the middle east.
So please answer the question above and/or read up to learn a bit about the differing forms of islam and a history of the muslim world and all the bloodshed and conquest involved therein and learn something.
I asked you this question before and you opted to ignore it, I wonder why.

No worse than the Europeans then.
The Europeans who have carved up the middle east for centuries drawing borders with no care as to what tribes cultures religions families those ruler drawn borders slice through.
Africans and Asians have been slaughtering too.

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The Saudis have been carrying out genocide on the small poor nation of Yemen for years. Mostly innocent civilians towns villages schools etc targeted. They are starving and killing these people.
Hardly a murmur from the msm but look what's happening!
A reporter may have been murdered so governments businesses media are all up in arms and demanding .... what Jeremy Corbyn has been demanding for years.

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The Saudis have been carrying out genocide on the small poor nation of Yemen for years. Mostly innocent civilians towns villages schools etc targeted. They are starving and killing these people.
Hardly a murmur from the msm but look what's happening!
A reporter may have been murdered so governments businesses media are all up in arms and demanding .... what Jeremy Corbyn has been demanding for years.

[LordRaven]

Popular thread this? Meaning why isn't it in RCT section yet?

You're right Raven, it isn't very popular but you've got to keep a record of the west's corruption and lies.

It's curious how the usual suspects who shout about terrorists, Muslims, 'they've been fighting for thousands of years', 'Religion of Peace and so on don't wish to comment on the actual facts. That being it's the west who recruit mercenaries, train them, arm them, fund them and protect them in order to enact regime change around the world.

I'm happy to keep pointing out the facts and backing it up in this thread rather than clutter the board with a new thread after every outrage.

From the Crusades to the Ottoman Empire there was a lot of bloodshed in the Middle East Felch, please list the western countries that facilitated all that bloodshed???
Take your time.
Your problem is you have blinkered vision and wish only to blame the west, when the fact is muslims are not all the same and have been at war with each other since the death of Mohammed.
Their savagery and thirst for conquest took them all the way to the gates of Vienna but you seem to want to portray them as a peace loving bunch and choose to blame the west for all the problems in the middle east.
So please answer the question above and/or read up to learn a bit about the differing forms of islam and a history of the muslim world and all the bloodshed and conquest involved therein and learn something.
I asked you this question before and you opted to ignore it, I wonder why.

No worse than the Europeans then.
The Europeans who have carved up the middle east for centuries drawing borders with no care as to what tribes cultures religions families those ruler drawn borders slice through.
Africans and Asians have been slaughtering too.

Utter bollocks!!! Between the crusades and WW1 we never really got involved but after the Ottoman Empire was booted out of the Arab world we did draw up lines on a map and all the Bedouin tribes found themselves in brand new nations.
Why do you and Felch lie so much? Please explain.

[Guest]

You're right Raven, it isn't very popular but you've got to keep a record of the west's corruption and lies.

It's curious how the usual suspects who shout about terrorists, Muslims, 'they've been fighting for thousands of years', 'Religion of Peace and so on don't wish to comment on the actual facts. That being it's the west who recruit mercenaries, train them, arm them, fund them and protect them in order to enact regime change around the world.

I'm happy to keep pointing out the facts and backing it up in this thread rather than clutter the board with a new thread after every outrage.

From the Crusades to the Ottoman Empire there was a lot of bloodshed in the Middle East Felch, please list the western countries that facilitated all that bloodshed???
Take your time.
Your problem is you have blinkered vision and wish only to blame the west, when the fact is muslims are not all the same and have been at war with each other since the death of Mohammed.
Their savagery and thirst for conquest took them all the way to the gates of Vienna but you seem to want to portray them as a peace loving bunch and choose to blame the west for all the problems in the middle east.
So please answer the question above and/or read up to learn a bit about the differing forms of islam and a history of the muslim world and all the bloodshed and conquest involved therein and learn something.
I asked you this question before and you opted to ignore it, I wonder why.

No worse than the Europeans then.
The Europeans who have carved up the middle east for centuries drawing borders with no care as to what tribes cultures religions families those ruler drawn borders slice through.
Africans and Asians have been slaughtering too.

Utter bollocks!!! Between the crusades and WW1 we never really got involved but after the Ottoman Empire was booted out of the Arab world we did draw up lines on a map and all the Bedouin tribes found themselves in brand new nations.
Why do you and Felch lie so much? Please explain.

Finally we see the truth

[LordRaven]

You're right Raven, it isn't very popular but you've got to keep a record of the west's corruption and lies.

It's curious how the usual suspects who shout about terrorists, Muslims, 'they've been fighting for thousands of years', 'Religion of Peace and so on don't wish to comment on the actual facts. That being it's the west who recruit mercenaries, train them, arm them, fund them and protect them in order to enact regime change around the world.

I'm happy to keep pointing out the facts and backing it up in this thread rather than clutter the board with a new thread after every outrage.

From the Crusades to the Ottoman Empire there was a lot of bloodshed in the Middle East Felch, please list the western countries that facilitated all that bloodshed???
Take your time.
Your problem is you have blinkered vision and wish only to blame the west, when the fact is muslims are not all the same and have been at war with each other since the death of Mohammed.
Their savagery and thirst for conquest took them all the way to the gates of Vienna but you seem to want to portray them as a peace loving bunch and choose to blame the west for all the problems in the middle east.
So please answer the question above and/or read up to learn a bit about the differing forms of islam and a history of the muslim world and all the bloodshed and conquest involved therein and learn something.
I asked you this question before and you opted to ignore it, I wonder why.

No worse than the Europeans then.
The Europeans who have carved up the middle east for centuries drawing borders with no care as to what tribes cultures religions families those ruler drawn borders slice through.
Africans and Asians have been slaughtering too.

Utter bollocks!!! Between the crusades and WW1 we never really got involved but after the Ottoman Empire was booted out of the Arab world we did draw up lines on a map and all the Bedouin tribes found themselves in brand new nations.
Why do you and Felch lie so much? Please explain.

Finally we see the truth

Felch wouldn't recognise the truth if it walked up and shook his hand, he is that desperate to push his worthless falsehoods on this forum and historical truths are totally ignored by him in his ridiculous quest to rewrite history.

[Fletch]

Raven posting far right tropes and using ancient history as justification for FUKUS regime changes in the 21st century...

[Fletch]

The honourable and trustworthy West.

Exclusive: UK Spy Agencies Knew Source of False Iraq War Intelligence was Tortured

British intelligence agencies fed questions to the interrogators of a captured terrorism suspect whom they knew was being seriously mistreated in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, and ministers then relied upon his answers to help justify the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Through a close analysis of redacted official documents, Middle East Eye has established that an MI6 officer was aware that CIA officers had placed Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi inside a sealed coffin at a US-run prison in Afghanistan. The officer had then watched as the coffin was loaded onto a truck and driven to an aircraft that was waiting to fly to Egypt.

In an incident report sent to MI6 headquarters in London, the officer and his colleagues reported that “we were tempted to speak out” at the treatment of Libi, but did not. “The event reinforced the uneasy feeling of operating in a legal wilderness,” they said.

Despite being aware that Libi had been flown to Egypt inside a coffin, and despite that country’s well-documented record of human rights abuses, both MI6 and MI5 decided to pass questions to be put to him, and continued to receive reports about what he was saying.

Under torture, Libi told his Egyptian interrogators that there were links between al-Qaeda and Iraqi President Saddam Hussein’s nuclear weapons programme. Three members of the militant organisation had been sent to Iraq for training, he said.

On his eventual transfer back into CIA custody, Libi said that he had fabricated the account in order to avoid further torture.

By that time, however, his statements had been used to justify the invasion of Iraq.

Some had been included in a speech that US Secretary of State Colin Powell gave to the United Nations Security Council on 5 February 2003, just weeks before the US-led invasion, while on the same day, British Prime Minister Tony Blair told parliament that there were "unquestionably" links between al-Qaeda and Iraq.

"It would be wrong to say that there is no evidence of any links between al-Qaeda and the Iraqi regime," Blair said.

“There is evidence of such links. Exactly how far they go is uncertain. However… there is intelligence coming through to us the entire time about this.”

Full details http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50573.htm

[Fletch]

The honourable and trustworthy West.

Trudeau Won’t Stop $12bn of Arms Sales to Saudi After Khashoggi’s Death Because Money Always Wins Over Murder

When Ottawa decided to sell its spanking new light armoured vehicles (LAVs) to the Saudi kingdom, the Saudis already had a well-earned reputation for chopping off heads and supporting raving and well-armed Islamists. But Mohammed bin Salman had not yet ascended the crown princedom of this pious state. The Saudis had not yet invaded Yemen, chopped off the heads of its Shia leaders, imprisoned its own princes, kidnapped the Lebanese prime minister and dismembered Khashoggi.

So the Conservative Canadian government of Stephen Harper had no scruples about flogging off its LAVs – as these little armoured monsters are called – to Riyadh, specifically for the “transport and protection” of government officials.

For it turned out – alas, oh alas – that those harmless Canadian LAVs had been videotaped in the Saudi eastern province in 2017, putting down a Shia civilian rebellion.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50570.htm