Tory Scum

Re: Tory Scum

Postby Cannydc » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:01 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:I don’t believe he’s as ignorant as he makes out, he’s quite funny with the wind ups. :razz:


So you think that he deliberately contradicts Labour's Brexit policy on national TV to make himself look stupid?


Don't you think it is more honest to state your own beliefs but be democratically bound to party policy as Corbyn does, or hide them and swap sides, like May ?
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Fletch » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:59 pm

'What is this Government playing at?' Viewers fume at BBC documentary revealing a brand new hospital stands empty while the one next door floods and 'puts patients' lives at risk'

Hospital on BBC Two aired the first episode of its fourth season last night
It followed staff at the decaying Royal Liverpool Hospital, which floods regularly
Meanwhile, a new £330million state-of-the-art hospital stands empty nearby
Viewers raged on Twitter about the Government allowing the situation
The issue arose after Government contractor Carillion collapsed in 2018

Viewers were outraged by the new series of the BBC's Hospital last night when it revealed the state of a deteriorating hospital in Liverpool.

The Royal Liverpool Hospital flooded 10 times last year, while a brand-new one stands empty and unfinished just three miles away.

Part-built with the lights permanently on and people employed to run the taps, the new facility was abandoned after the Governement's Carillion contract failed in 2018.

The £335million building can't be used because construction hasn't finished, but staff have to be employed to turn on its 4,000 taps to stop bacteria build-up.

And the lights cannot be turned off because the electrics are incomplete, and warranties on the new equipment are fast expiring.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... ntary.html

I don't absolve New Labour from responsibility either, they used the Tory PFI scheme to the max to enrich large corporations.

It's pure neoliberalism, the ideology of private provision of public services, a corporate free for all and the rest of the public suffering. It's all ok though because gdp went up so the country is doing well and everyone is better off... :shake head:
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:07 pm

This bunch of self serving bastards that make up a government will make my fucking head explode.
How after disaster after fucking disaster can they still be in office.
They will be the root cause of the formation at some point that surely can't be far off of the rope and lampost party.
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Re: Tory Scum

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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Fletch » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:52 pm

Russell Group university courses are providing less than six hours a week face-to-face teaching – despite raking in fees of £9,250 per year

Institutions are raking in the equivalent of £300 a week for less than a full day
Universities often justify their low number of contact hours with other resources
Courses affected are all in the humanities subjects man of which lead to poorer earnings

The revelation re-ignites the debate on whether universities provide value for money when students graduate with up to £50,000 of debt.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -face.html

It's not about education, just the money that can be made from it by the corporates (the few)

Monetize everything and to hell with the consequences. :shake head:
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby MungoBrush » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:35 pm

Fletch wrote:Russell Group university courses are providing less than six hours a week face-to-face teaching – despite raking in fees of £9,250 per year

Institutions are raking in the equivalent of £300 a week for less than a full day
Universities often justify their low number of contact hours with other resources
Courses affected are all in the humanities subjects man of which lead to poorer earnings

The revelation re-ignites the debate on whether universities provide value for money when students graduate with up to £50,000 of debt.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -face.html

It's not about education, just the money that can be made from it by the corporates (the few)

Monetize everything and to hell with the consequences. :shake head:


I guess you never went to university did you
6 hours per week - that's 2 3-hour lectures
Then there are tutorials, research groups, group study, private study etc etc etc

If students want more lecture time per week, then maybe they should select a different university.
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Fletch » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:02 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Fletch wrote:Russell Group university courses are providing less than six hours a week face-to-face teaching – despite raking in fees of £9,250 per year

Institutions are raking in the equivalent of £300 a week for less than a full day
Universities often justify their low number of contact hours with other resources
Courses affected are all in the humanities subjects man of which lead to poorer earnings

The revelation re-ignites the debate on whether universities provide value for money when students graduate with up to £50,000 of debt.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -face.html

It's not about education, just the money that can be made from it by the corporates (the few)

Monetize everything and to hell with the consequences. :shake head:


I guess you never went to university did you
6 hours per week - that's 2 3-hour lectures
Then there are tutorials, research groups, group study, private study etc etc etc

If students want more lecture time per week, then maybe they should select a different university.


Fuck me, if there is any way at all for you to miss the point, you manage it. :pmsl:
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby jra » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:03 pm

Fletch wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Fletch wrote:Russell Group university courses are providing less than six hours a week face-to-face teaching – despite raking in fees of £9,250 per year

Institutions are raking in the equivalent of £300 a week for less than a full day
Universities often justify their low number of contact hours with other resources
Courses affected are all in the humanities subjects man of which lead to poorer earnings

The revelation re-ignites the debate on whether universities provide value for money when students graduate with up to £50,000 of debt.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -face.html

It's not about education, just the money that can be made from it by the corporates (the few)

Monetize everything and to hell with the consequences. :shake head:


I guess you never went to university did you
6 hours per week - that's 2 3-hour lectures
Then there are tutorials, research groups, group study, private study etc etc etc

If students want more lecture time per week, then maybe they should select a different university.


Fuck me, if there is any way at all for you to miss the point, you manage it. :pmsl:


I wouldn't go to University these days anyway if I didn't need to. A degree isn't worth so much these days if 1 in 4 people go to university, so a degree has lost a lot of its value from when I went to university where only 1 in 15-20 were able to. Just like gold, the more of it there is, the less valuable it becomes.

https://www.ucas.com/corporate/news-and ... university

That's apart from the large cost nowadays.

Back in the good old days, the government paid for virtually everything, even some of the rent.
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:49 pm

UK: The 2018 State of the Nation Report

Wealth in Gt. Britain
Household Debt
Deprivation
Working Poverty, Child Poverty
Energy and Food Poverty
Homelessness
Housing Crisis
Social Care
Public Services
Public Finances
Wages and Savings
Inequality
Education
Next Generation

Conclusion

The state of the nation is laid bare in all of these statistics. For all but those who are affluent and have future prospects, it’s about falling wages, rising debt, deprivation, poverty, societal meltdown and dramatically worsening public finances and liabilities along with worries for the next generation that nothing will change in future. It has led to frustration, anger and social division. It should be noted that there is no report produced in Britain that calculates the percentage of people or households that are collectively affected by the statistics in this report. Approximately half of all households in Britain receive benefits or are dependent on benefits of some kind.

On becoming PM of Britain, Theresa May spoke of the “burning injustices” of British society, and her heart seemingly went out to the “ordinary working-class families” who “just about manage”. Standing in front of No 10, she promised that “the government I lead will not be driven by the interests of the privileged few but by yours.”

It was also clear that the Conservative governments of David Cameron and Theresa May were well aware of the disaster that had unfolded after the financial crisis which created a crisis of daily life for almost one half of society. Austerity was their answer. None of the key performance areas in terms of Britain’s overall well-being is getting better.



The state of the nation is laid bare in all of these statistics. For all but those who are affluent and have future prospects, it’s about falling wages, rising debt, deprivation, poverty, societal meltdown and dramatically worsening public finances and liabilities along with worries for the next generation that nothing will change in future. It has led to frustration, anger and social division. It should be noted that there is no report produced in Britain that calculates the percentage of people or households that are collectively affected by the statistics in this report. Approximately half of all households in Britain receive benefits or are dependent on benefits of some kind.

On becoming PM of Britain, Theresa May spoke of the “burning injustices” of British society, and her heart seemingly went out to the “ordinary working-class families” who “just about manage”. Standing in front of No 10, she promised that “the government I lead will not be driven by the interests of the privileged few but by yours.”

It was also clear that the Conservative governments of David Cameron and Theresa May were well aware of the disaster that had unfolded after the financial crisis which created a crisis of daily life for almost one half of society. Austerity was their answer. None of the key performance areas in terms of Britain’s overall well-being is getting better.

Footnote

Neoliberal Ideology......
Neoliberal capitalism is an economic theory that was simplified in its terminology so everyone could understand it. ‘Trickle down economics’ was what it promised.

Capitalism is an economic practice. Neoliberalism is a philosophy about how societies in which that practice capitalism should be managed. It would have worked in Britain if, like all things in life, it was carried out in moderation. But it wasn’t. This report demonstrates how this form of capitalism is now creating huge societal problems.

There is no disputing that neoliberalism brought us the financial crisis, which sti


Whichever bit you choose to read is grim.
This country is in a serious mess.
This could as easily go in 21st century capitalism.

https://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingd ... on-report/
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby MungoBrush » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:51 pm

jra wrote:I wouldn't go to University these days anyway if I didn't need to. A degree isn't worth so much these days if 1 in 4 people go to university, so a degree has lost a lot of its value from when I went to university where only 1 in 15-20 were able to. Just like gold, the more of it there is, the less valuable it becomes.

https://www.ucas.com/corporate/news-and ... university

That's apart from the large cost nowadays.

Back in the good old days, the government paid for virtually everything, even some of the rent.


There are far more choices for education these days than my parents ever dreamed of
Choices for fields of study
Choices for methods of study
Choices for places of study
And it's not "free".
Institutions cost money; Academic staff get salaries etc etc

Yes when tertiary education was "free" less that 10% took advantage of it.
Now, you say, it's 25%
Do you think that the 75% who don't go should pay the costs of the 25% who do go?
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Fletch » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:35 pm

Controversy over government's ‘revolving door’ is reignited as it's revealed new Health Minister worked for firm trying to win NHS contracts

Former Tory MP Nicola Blackwood, who was a Health Minister when she lost her seat at the 2017 Election, controversially received a peerage from Theresa May in the New Year Honours List.

Last week, she was announced as the new Health Minister for Innovation after being elevated to the House of Lords.

However, The Mail on Sunday has established that after losing her Oxford West and Abingdon seat, she became a paid adviser to Push Doctor, an online GP service hoping to gain a foothold into the vast NHS market.

Ms Blackwood sat on the governance board of Push Doctor, which offers private ‘pay as you go’ video consultations priced at £30 for ten minutes and wants to work with the NHS, as well as advising it on how to expand its digital health services.

In her new ministerial post, Ms Blackwood will be responsible for digital technologies in the NHS.

Last night, shadow Health Minister Justin Madders said: ‘This is yet another shocking example of private health companies getting far too close to Tory Ministers.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... racts.html

Don't trust the Tories in any way at all...ever!
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby MungoBrush » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:46 pm

Fletch wrote:Controversy over government's ‘revolving door’ is reignited as it's revealed new Health Minister worked for firm trying to win NHS contracts


What is your problem with trying to win an NHS contract?
Don't you think that it's OK for the NHS to have contracts for:

Electricity supply
Car Park parking enforcement
Pens and pencils and notepads
Emergency vehicles and maintenance
Supply of bandages
Canteen services
Laundry of sheets and towels

etc etc

Don't be a public pratt.
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Fletch » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:07 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Fletch wrote:Controversy over government's ‘revolving door’ is reignited as it's revealed new Health Minister worked for firm trying to win NHS contracts


What is your problem with trying to win an NHS contract?
Don't you think that it's OK for the NHS to have contracts for:

Electricity supply
Car Park parking enforcement
Pens and pencils and notepads
Emergency vehicles and maintenance
Supply of bandages
Canteen services
Laundry of sheets and towels

etc etc

Don't be a public pratt.


The public prat is you Mungo, every time you post.

Have a re-read of the bits you deleted from my post before quoting it...
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby MungoBrush » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:14 pm

Fletch wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Fletch wrote:Controversy over government's ‘revolving door’ is reignited as it's revealed new Health Minister worked for firm trying to win NHS contracts


What is your problem with trying to win an NHS contract?
Don't you think that it's OK for the NHS to have contracts for:

Electricity supply
Car Park parking enforcement
Pens and pencils and notepads
Emergency vehicles and maintenance
Supply of bandages
Canteen services
Laundry of sheets and towels

etc etc

Don't be a public pratt.


The public prat is you Mungo, every time you post.

Have a re-read of the bits you deleted from my post before quoting it...


Seriously?
You are quoting the Dail Mail in your defence?
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Cannydc » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:23 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Fletch wrote:Controversy over government's ‘revolving door’ is reignited as it's revealed new Health Minister worked for firm trying to win NHS contracts


What is your problem with trying to win an NHS contract?
Don't you think that it's OK for the NHS to have contracts for:

Electricity supply
Car Park parking enforcement
Pens and pencils and notepads
Emergency vehicles and maintenance
Supply of bandages
Canteen services
Laundry of sheets and towels

etc etc

Don't be a public pratt.


Interesting that you missed Cleaning off your list. In fact, the basic business model is that a company puts in what it hopes is the lowest priced bid, and with a nodding acceptance that there has to be some form of quality control.

The result of this process was a major decline in the "public sector ethos. A direct link between infection rates and outsourcing may be hard to establish, but the pressure to reduce costs created a fractured workplace; one where well-paid professionals rub shoulders with an increasingly casualised part-time and precarious work force.

Cleaning became very low paid. Contracting out pushes wages down, creates a high turnover of staff and problems with general recruitment. Other processes that result from outsourcing - particularly the pressure on time and the focus on specific tasks - also lead to a very fragmented way of delivering the cleaning service.

Before cleaning services were outsourced, the cleaners would have taken more time, talked to nurses, chatted to patients, and there would have been a much greater degree of teamwork in the ward and hospital."

In Scotland and Wales, this kind of advice was heeded. After a number of bad experiences, the devolved governments of Scotland, Wales and Northern Island all abandoned outsourcing their cleaning services. But, in England, the process has continued with gusto.

The same applies to catering, where we now see half a sandwich supposedly comprising a full meal.

One thing I would recommend is centralised contract buying for use-once stores (your pens, pencils, bandages etc) because prices can be driven way down with huge bulk buys. The same procedures are now being introduced by the MOD. This may also work for power supplies, laundry and vehicle maintenance.
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