Tory Scum

Re: Tory Scum

Postby MungoBrush » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:35 am

Cannydc wrote:"The National Insurance stamp used to be to fund the NHS and Old Age pensions."

The question about that generalised statement is 'when?'

NI was first proposed in the 1908 "People's Budget" of David Lloyd George, along with a dramatic expansion of the scope of Income Tax and plans for a system of old age pensions - which would be funded at this time by general taxation.

The scheme, which came into effect in July 1912, was intended to create a national system of insurance for working people against illness and unemployment. Nothing to do with pensions.

In 1925, the Ministry of Health was charged with the administration of contributory pensions under the Old Age, Widows' and Orphans' Contributory Pensions Act 1925, which replaced the older system.

The system was "nationalised" in 1945, with the creation of the Ministry for National Insurance. It has almst never been self sufficient - up until 1990, shortfalls in the Fund had been met by a central government grant.

http://www.politics.co.uk/reference/national-insurance


You see Cannydc? This is what I have been talking about
Your post above is informative, interesting and relevant
It contains no spiteful comments or personal insults
It could have been a good contribution to a constructive conversation about ring fencing taxes in general - which is what is being proposed for future NHS funding I believe
We could even have discussed the merits of ringfencing benefits - for example, should housing benefits be paid directly to landlords (another recent proposal)

But no, unfortunately, in another thread, you have reverted to childish insults along with your tag-team mate.

Opportunity lost, I fear.
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Fletch » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:39 pm

Special constable and his Hungarian wife who made £600k trafficking girls from Budapest to Tory donor's Chelsea flats dubbed '10 Floors of Wh***s' using low-cost airline Wizz Air face jail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -jail.html
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:13 pm

EXCLUSIVE: Third of May's Cabinet in Davos slammed for 'tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite'
A third of Theresa May's Cabinet are in Davos this week in an unprecedented delegation slammed as a "tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite."
Seven top ministers - Chancellor Philip Hammond, International Trade Secretary Liam Fox, International Development Secretary Penny Mourdant, Health Secretary Matt Hancock, Business Secretary Greg Clark, Culture Secretary Jeremy Wright and Wales Secretary Alun Cairns - are attending the World Economic Forum in Switzerland.

Hotel bills and restaurant prices skyrocket during the summit which is notorious for its lavish champagne-fuelled receptions held in one of the world's most exclusive resorts.
It is understood that every minister attending is travelling with at least one member of staff.
https://talkradio.co.uk/news/exclusive- ... vME2pPm.01
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Cannydc » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:27 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:EXCLUSIVE: Third of May's Cabinet in Davos slammed for 'tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite'
A third of Theresa May's Cabinet are in Davos this week in an unprecedented delegation slammed as a "tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite."
Seven top ministers - Chancellor Philip Hammond, International Trade Secretary Liam Fox, International Development Secretary Penny Mourdant, Health Secretary Matt Hancock, Business Secretary Greg Clark, Culture Secretary Jeremy Wright and Wales Secretary Alun Cairns - are attending the World Economic Forum in Switzerland.

Hotel bills and restaurant prices skyrocket during the summit which is notorious for its lavish champagne-fuelled receptions held in one of the world's most exclusive resorts.
It is understood that every minister attending is travelling with at least one member of staff.
https://talkradio.co.uk/news/exclusive- ... vME2pPm.01


I think you'll find that they are a high powered delegation intent on signing a huge free trade deal with the Dutch Antilles.

On the other hand, it could just be a "tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite." I suppose.
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby MungoBrush » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:34 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:EXCLUSIVE: Third of May's Cabinet in Davos slammed for 'tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite'
A third of Theresa May's Cabinet are in Davos this week in an unprecedented delegation slammed as a "tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite."
Seven top ministers - Chancellor Philip Hammond, International Trade Secretary Liam Fox, International Development Secretary Penny Mourdant, Health Secretary Matt Hancock, Business Secretary Greg Clark, Culture Secretary Jeremy Wright and Wales Secretary Alun Cairns - are attending the World Economic Forum in Switzerland.

Hotel bills and restaurant prices skyrocket during the summit which is notorious for its lavish champagne-fuelled receptions held in one of the world's most exclusive resorts.
It is understood that every minister attending is travelling with at least one member of staff.
https://talkradio.co.uk/news/exclusive- ... vME2pPm.01


I think you'll find that they are a high powered delegation intent on signing a huge free trade deal with the Dutch Antilles.

On the other hand, it could just be a "tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite." I suppose.



This is the World Economic Forum.
What a terrible thing that members of our government are participating in a global discussion with so many world leaders in an organisation with the obvious aim of just getting pissed.
After all - you people here seem to think that the UK should just shrivel up like your dicks in a cold swimming pool.

"The World Economic Forum Annual Meeting is the only yearly gathering that brings together leaders of global society. The heads and members of more than 100 governments, top executives of the 1,000 foremost global companies, leaders of international organizations and relevant non-governmental organizations, the most prominent cultural, societal and thought leaders, and the disruptive voices of the Forum’s Young Global Leaders, Global Shapers and Technology Pioneers come together at the beginning of each year to define priorities and shape global, industry and regional agendas."
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby McAz » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:49 pm

MungoBrush wrote:...you people here seem to think that the UK should just shrivel up like your dicks in a cold swimming pool.


Tory dick does not shrivel in such circumstances? Tell us more, Dongle. :scratch:
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Cannydc » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:07 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:EXCLUSIVE: Third of May's Cabinet in Davos slammed for 'tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite'
A third of Theresa May's Cabinet are in Davos this week in an unprecedented delegation slammed as a "tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite."
Seven top ministers - Chancellor Philip Hammond, International Trade Secretary Liam Fox, International Development Secretary Penny Mourdant, Health Secretary Matt Hancock, Business Secretary Greg Clark, Culture Secretary Jeremy Wright and Wales Secretary Alun Cairns - are attending the World Economic Forum in Switzerland.

Hotel bills and restaurant prices skyrocket during the summit which is notorious for its lavish champagne-fuelled receptions held in one of the world's most exclusive resorts.
It is understood that every minister attending is travelling with at least one member of staff.
https://talkradio.co.uk/news/exclusive- ... vME2pPm.01


I think you'll find that they are a high powered delegation intent on signing a huge free trade deal with the Dutch Antilles.

On the other hand, it could just be a "tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite." I suppose.



This is the World Economic Forum.
What a terrible thing that members of our government are participating in a global discussion with so many world leaders in an organisation with the obvious aim of just getting pissed.
After all - you people here seem to think that the UK should just shrivel up like your dicks in a cold swimming pool.

"The World Economic Forum Annual Meeting is the only yearly gathering that brings together leaders of global society. The heads and members of more than 100 governments, top executives of the 1,000 foremost global companies, leaders of international organizations and relevant non-governmental organizations, the most prominent cultural, societal and thought leaders, and the disruptive voices of the Forum’s Young Global Leaders, Global Shapers and Technology Pioneers come together at the beginning of each year to define priorities and shape global, industry and regional agendas."


And we should be represented.

But not by "half the cabinet". The usual government compliment is PM, Chancellor and a couple of note takers. Meetings are pre-planned. No policies are decided here.
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Fletch » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:35 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:EXCLUSIVE: Third of May's Cabinet in Davos slammed for 'tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite'
A third of Theresa May's Cabinet are in Davos this week in an unprecedented delegation slammed as a "tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite."
Seven top ministers - Chancellor Philip Hammond, International Trade Secretary Liam Fox, International Development Secretary Penny Mourdant, Health Secretary Matt Hancock, Business Secretary Greg Clark, Culture Secretary Jeremy Wright and Wales Secretary Alun Cairns - are attending the World Economic Forum in Switzerland.

Hotel bills and restaurant prices skyrocket during the summit which is notorious for its lavish champagne-fuelled receptions held in one of the world's most exclusive resorts.
It is understood that every minister attending is travelling with at least one member of staff.
https://talkradio.co.uk/news/exclusive- ... vME2pPm.01


I think you'll find that they are a high powered delegation intent on signing a huge free trade deal with the Dutch Antilles.

On the other hand, it could just be a "tax-payer funded freebie to sip champagne with the global elite." I suppose.



This is the World Economic Forum.
What a terrible thing that members of our government are participating in a global discussion with so many world leaders in an organisation with the obvious aim of just getting pissed.
After all - you people here seem to think that the UK should just shrivel up like your dicks in a cold swimming pool.

"The World Economic Forum Annual Meeting is the only yearly gathering that brings together leaders of global society. The heads and members of more than 100 governments, top executives of the 1,000 foremost global companies, leaders of international organizations and relevant non-governmental organizations, the most prominent cultural, societal and thought leaders, and the disruptive voices of the Forum’s Young Global Leaders, Global Shapers and Technology Pioneers come together at the beginning of each year to define priorities and shape global, industry and regional agendas."


The enablers for the 1% then. Nothing to benefit the many will come out of any of these meetings.
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:56 pm

Conservative donors refuse to hand over cash in 'disgust' over Theresa May's leadership and Brexit policy
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... zbVO8mY29w
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Re: Tory Scum

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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Fletch » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:33 pm

'Where are the patrols outside ALL schools?' Police presence is stepped up outside two top London private schools after six pupils are mugged - but parents say rest of capital should be protected too

Police have stepped up patrols outside two of London's most prestigious private schools after students were mugged for their phones.

Pupils from £40,000-a-year Dulwich College - reputedly Britain's most expensive school - and its £18,000-a-year neighbour Alleyn's - have been robbed including six boys in one evening.

Students from the nearby state Kingsdale Foundation School have also been victims.

One parent wrote on Facebook: 'Six posh kids are mugged and all of a sudden there's enough police to guard them. Sickening as all children should be protected not just the ones with rich parents'.

Another critic wrote: 'Where are the patrols outside all the schools where so many children are mugged, offered drugs or being drawn into gangs?'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... hools.html

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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Fletch » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:44 pm

Revealed: Amazon has paid less corporation tax in 20 years than Marks and Spencer did last year alone

Jeff Bezos has been accused of 'exploiting the UK' over low corporation tax bills

Amazon paid £62m in UK corporation tax in 20 years – same as M&S in 2018

This is the despite the tech giant enjoying £6.86billion turnover in that period

In that period the billionaire's business paid £61.7million in UK corporation tax in 20 years - while Marks & Spencer handed over more than that last year alone and £3.3billion in the same two decades.

The stark figures has led to more calls for the Government to clamp down on US tech giants including Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Google who use complex tax structures to legally avoid tax in the UK.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... eport.html

Meanwhile benefit claimants have money taken off them because 'austerity' to 'balance the books'.

('balance the books' is impossible in a debt based private money supply at interest system)
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Cannydc » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:31 pm

Fletch wrote:Revealed: Amazon has paid less corporation tax in 20 years than Marks and Spencer did last year alone

Jeff Bezos has been accused of 'exploiting the UK' over low corporation tax bills

Amazon paid £62m in UK corporation tax in 20 years – same as M&S in 2018

This is the despite the tech giant enjoying £6.86billion turnover in that period

In that period the billionaire's business paid £61.7million in UK corporation tax in 20 years - while Marks & Spencer handed over more than that last year alone and £3.3billion in the same two decades.

The stark figures has led to more calls for the Government to clamp down on US tech giants including Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Google who use complex tax structures to legally avoid tax in the UK.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... eport.html

Meanwhile benefit claimants have money taken off them because 'austerity' to 'balance the books'.

('balance the books' is impossible in a debt based private money supply at interest system)


You will really like what this man had to say at Davos....

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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Fletch » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:47 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Fletch wrote:Revealed: Amazon has paid less corporation tax in 20 years than Marks and Spencer did last year alone

Jeff Bezos has been accused of 'exploiting the UK' over low corporation tax bills

Amazon paid £62m in UK corporation tax in 20 years – same as M&S in 2018

This is the despite the tech giant enjoying £6.86billion turnover in that period

In that period the billionaire's business paid £61.7million in UK corporation tax in 20 years - while Marks & Spencer handed over more than that last year alone and £3.3billion in the same two decades.

The stark figures has led to more calls for the Government to clamp down on US tech giants including Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Google who use complex tax structures to legally avoid tax in the UK.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... eport.html

Meanwhile benefit claimants have money taken off them because 'austerity' to 'balance the books'.

('balance the books' is impossible in a debt based private money supply at interest system)


You will really like what this man had to say at Davos....



The 'joy' of capitalism :brickwall:
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Re: Tory Scum

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:55 pm

Fletch wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Fletch wrote:Revealed: Amazon has paid less corporation tax in 20 years than Marks and Spencer did last year alone

Jeff Bezos has been accused of 'exploiting the UK' over low corporation tax bills

Amazon paid £62m in UK corporation tax in 20 years – same as M&S in 2018

This is the despite the tech giant enjoying £6.86billion turnover in that period

In that period the billionaire's business paid £61.7million in UK corporation tax in 20 years - while Marks & Spencer handed over more than that last year alone and £3.3billion in the same two decades.

The stark figures has led to more calls for the Government to clamp down on US tech giants including Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Google who use complex tax structures to legally avoid tax in the UK.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... eport.html

Meanwhile benefit claimants have money taken off them because 'austerity' to 'balance the books'.

('balance the books' is impossible in a debt based private money supply at interest system)


You will really like what this man had to say at Davos....



The 'joy' of capitalism :brickwall:

Surprising how many people still have faith in it.
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