The Tories Hate Social Housing

[LordRaven]

:off head:

Yes indeed, you sailed right into that one didn't you?

[LordRaven]

“I don’t understand why you keep going on about the need for more social housing – it just creates Labour voters.”

Nick Clegg doesn’t recall whether it was David Cameron or George Osborne who uttered these words. But he knows it was one of them. Why? Because he was sitting across the table from them in one of the coalition’s “Quad” meetings when this nugget of unguarded Tory honesty slipped out.

The former deputy prime minister is in no doubt that this represented the cynicism-drenched view of the Conservative leadership on social housing and its residents, going all the way back to Margaret Thatcher’s Right to Buy revolution in 1980.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/so ... 91296.html


It would actually work out cheaper to build more social housing than to continue to spend tax payers money putting people up in hotels and privately rented temporary accommodation. Such is the Tory scum way though.

But Labour started shovelling people in from all over the world, which Mandelson confirmed when he stated that they sent search parties out to find them etc.

The idea was to create a new underclass of people who would live in Expensive Rented houses that would make it stupid for them to even consider looking for work.

In essence Labour wanted to create an entirely new sub-culture of people totally dependent on the state --Who would always Vote Labour.

A Vote Buying exercise that you the tax payer would happily fund. What a great idea, and here is just one example...


"Asylum family choose £2m Kensington home
A family of nine Somalian asylum seekers have moved into a £8,000-a month five-bedroom house in London at the expense of the taxpayer

A family of Somalian asylum seekers now count celebrities and millionaires as their neighbours after moving to a £2.1m property paid for by the taxpayer.

The family of nine moved to the £8,000-a-month five-bedroom house in an exclusive area of Kensington in London last month.

In the latest example of taxpayers funding million-pound properties for families on benefit, Kensington and Chelsea council agreed to pay £2,000 a week to Abdi Nur, an unemployed bus conductor, his wife Sayruq and their seven children when they wanted to move from the Kensal Rise area of Brent after complaining about the poor quality of schools and shops.

The Nurs, who were granted asylum in the UK in 1999, are dependent on state benefits."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/asyl ... wvgfh7g277


HTH here in correcting you on a Labour policy the Tories inherited

Thatcher came before New Labour Over inflated fake news piece from a Tory scum rag.

Did you get a job yet? If not why not.

I am not feeling the need at the moment, the weather is still good and I am about to start selling one site tI agreed for a developer that will earn me a large wad, plus I have him offering on another that will make me money on the way in and when the properties are sold --double whammy!!
And I am also showing him another site on Friday, and that is looking promising too.
I am starting to think I can make more money for less work and a lot less stress simply by carrying out a few searches and checking local authority websites for planning consents, CIL contributions etc from my laptop at home.
If it does work I will have a far more relaxed lifestyle and probably earn more money. Early days but this is my line of thinking at the moment.
It might fail but if it does I will just phone people I know in good positions at various firms to see if they need my help.
One never knows how things will pan out but I am sure that I will be fine.
Thanks for your concern.

[Gigabit]

“I don’t understand why you keep going on about the need for more social housing – it just creates Labour voters.”

Nick Clegg doesn’t recall whether it was David Cameron or George Osborne who uttered these words. But he knows it was one of them. Why? Because he was sitting across the table from them in one of the coalition’s “Quad” meetings when this nugget of unguarded Tory honesty slipped out.

The former deputy prime minister is in no doubt that this represented the cynicism-drenched view of the Conservative leadership on social housing and its residents, going all the way back to Margaret Thatcher’s Right to Buy revolution in 1980.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/so ... 91296.html


It would actually work out cheaper to build more social housing than to continue to spend tax payers money putting people up in hotels and privately rented temporary accommodation. Such is the Tory scum way though.

But Labour started shovelling people in from all over the world, which Mandelson confirmed when he stated that they sent search parties out to find them etc.

The idea was to create a new underclass of people who would live in Expensive Rented houses that would make it stupid for them to even consider looking for work.

In essence Labour wanted to create an entirely new sub-culture of people totally dependent on the state --Who would always Vote Labour.

A Vote Buying exercise that you the tax payer would happily fund. What a great idea, and here is just one example...


"Asylum family choose £2m Kensington home
A family of nine Somalian asylum seekers have moved into a £8,000-a month five-bedroom house in London at the expense of the taxpayer

A family of Somalian asylum seekers now count celebrities and millionaires as their neighbours after moving to a £2.1m property paid for by the taxpayer.

The family of nine moved to the £8,000-a-month five-bedroom house in an exclusive area of Kensington in London last month.

In the latest example of taxpayers funding million-pound properties for families on benefit, Kensington and Chelsea council agreed to pay £2,000 a week to Abdi Nur, an unemployed bus conductor, his wife Sayruq and their seven children when they wanted to move from the Kensal Rise area of Brent after complaining about the poor quality of schools and shops.

The Nurs, who were granted asylum in the UK in 1999, are dependent on state benefits."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/asyl ... wvgfh7g277


HTH here in correcting you on a Labour policy the Tories inherited

Thatcher came before New Labour Over inflated fake news piece from a Tory scum rag.

Did you get a job yet? If not why not.

I am not feeling the need at the moment, the weather is still good and I am about to start selling one site tI agreed for a developer that will earn me a large wad, plus I have him offering on another that will make me money on the way in and when the properties are sold --double whammy!!
And I am also showing him another site on Friday, and that is looking promising too.
I am starting to think I can make more money for less work and a lot less stress simply by carrying out a few searches and checking local authority websites for planning consents, CIL contributions etc from my laptop at home.
If it does work I will have a far more relaxed lifestyle and probably earn more money. Early days but this is my line of thinking at the moment.
It might fail but if it does I will just phone people I know in good positions at various firms to see if they need my help.
One never knows how things will pan out but I am sure that I will be fine.
Thanks for your concern.

Ah so all you care about is money, figures.

[LordRaven]

But Labour started shovelling people in from all over the world, which Mandelson confirmed when he stated that they sent search parties out to find them etc.

The idea was to create a new underclass of people who would live in Expensive Rented houses that would make it stupid for them to even consider looking for work.

In essence Labour wanted to create an entirely new sub-culture of people totally dependent on the state --Who would always Vote Labour.

A Vote Buying exercise that you the tax payer would happily fund. What a great idea, and here is just one example...


"Asylum family choose £2m Kensington home
A family of nine Somalian asylum seekers have moved into a £8,000-a month five-bedroom house in London at the expense of the taxpayer

A family of Somalian asylum seekers now count celebrities and millionaires as their neighbours after moving to a £2.1m property paid for by the taxpayer.

The family of nine moved to the £8,000-a-month five-bedroom house in an exclusive area of Kensington in London last month.

In the latest example of taxpayers funding million-pound properties for families on benefit, Kensington and Chelsea council agreed to pay £2,000 a week to Abdi Nur, an unemployed bus conductor, his wife Sayruq and their seven children when they wanted to move from the Kensal Rise area of Brent after complaining about the poor quality of schools and shops.

The Nurs, who were granted asylum in the UK in 1999, are dependent on state benefits."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/asyl ... wvgfh7g277


HTH here in correcting you on a Labour policy the Tories inherited

Thatcher came before New Labour Over inflated fake news piece from a Tory scum rag.

Did you get a job yet? If not why not.

I am not feeling the need at the moment, the weather is still good and I am about to start selling one site tI agreed for a developer that will earn me a large wad, plus I have him offering on another that will make me money on the way in and when the properties are sold --double whammy!!
And I am also showing him another site on Friday, and that is looking promising too.
I am starting to think I can make more money for less work and a lot less stress simply by carrying out a few searches and checking local authority websites for planning consents, CIL contributions etc from my laptop at home.
If it does work I will have a far more relaxed lifestyle and probably earn more money. Early days but this is my line of thinking at the moment.
It might fail but if it does I will just phone people I know in good positions at various firms to see if they need my help.
One never knows how things will pan out but I am sure that I will be fine.
Thanks for your concern.

Ah so all you care about is money, figures.

Well it does help in the modern world but you have clearly misunderstood the fact I will have a pretty stress free life and more leisure time --which is good isn't it? Are you saying you don't have any money and is that why you hate rich people?
The politics of envy? It explains a lot, many thanks

[Guest]

Well it does help in the modern world but you have clearly misunderstood the fact I will have a pretty stress free life and more leisure time --which is good isn't it? Are you saying you don't have any money and is that why you hate rich people?
The politics of envy? It explains a lot, many thanks

Why shouldn't the rich pay their fair share in taxes?

Why are you such a pathetic cap doffer?

[Gigabit]

Well it does help in the modern world but you have clearly misunderstood the fact I will have a pretty stress free life and more leisure time --which is good isn't it? Are you saying you don't have any money and is that why you hate rich people?
The politics of envy? It explains a lot, many thanks

I'm very well off but I see life as more than money. And being in the position I am in, I appreciate how lucky I am and how so many live with less. So it is not envy at all. But sorry I didn't fit your stereotype

[Rolluplostinspace]

Thatcher came before New Labour Over inflated fake news piece from a Tory scum rag.

Did you get a job yet? If not why not.

I am not feeling the need at the moment, the weather is still good and I am about to start selling one site tI agreed for a developer that will earn me a large wad, plus I have him offering on another that will make me money on the way in and when the properties are sold --double whammy!!
And I am also showing him another site on Friday, and that is looking promising too.
I am starting to think I can make more money for less work and a lot less stress simply by carrying out a few searches and checking local authority websites for planning consents, CIL contributions etc from my laptop at home.
If it does work I will have a far more relaxed lifestyle and probably earn more money. Early days but this is my line of thinking at the moment.
It might fail but if it does I will just phone people I know in good positions at various firms to see if they need my help.
One never knows how things will pan out but I am sure that I will be fine.
Thanks for your concern.

Ah so all you care about is money, figures.

Well it does help in the modern world but you have clearly misunderstood the fact I will have a pretty stress free life and more leisure time --which is good isn't it? Are you saying you don't have any money and is that why you hate rich people?
The politics of envy? It explains a lot, many thanks

The politics of envy! You don't even realise that just a tired old meaningless foundationless fucking newspaper propaganda line ffs.
One things is perfectly clear Raven.
You're as Tory blue as you were last time you were here despite the pathetic denials.
This is exactly what you were last time you were here .... a fucking spineless Tory boy who won't admit it.
Again.

[LordRaven]

Well it does help in the modern world but you have clearly misunderstood the fact I will have a pretty stress free life and more leisure time --which is good isn't it? Are you saying you don't have any money and is that why you hate rich people?
The politics of envy? It explains a lot, many thanks

I'm very well off but I see life as more than money. And being in the position I am in, I appreciate how lucky I am and how so many live with less. So it is not envy at all. But sorry I didn't fit your stereotype

Very well off? Then practice what you preach by making a gesture. Sell all property you have and drain your bank account and donate it all to the poor to help redress the social injustice that clearly concerns you so much.
If you don't then you are just a champagne socialist hypocrite who does not represent the poor at all.
So will you do it?

[LordRaven]

And Gigabit disappears? Funny that!

[Gigabit]

Well it does help in the modern world but you have clearly misunderstood the fact I will have a pretty stress free life and more leisure time --which is good isn't it? Are you saying you don't have any money and is that why you hate rich people?
The politics of envy? It explains a lot, many thanks

I'm very well off but I see life as more than money. And being in the position I am in, I appreciate how lucky I am and how so many live with less. So it is not envy at all. But sorry I didn't fit your stereotype

Very well off? Then practice what you preach by making a gesture. Sell all property you have and drain your bank account and donate it all to the poor to help redress the social injustice that clearly concerns you so much.
If you don't then you are just a champagne socialist hypocrite who does not represent the poor at all.
So will you do it?

What a ridiculous and absurd comment. You accuse me of envy and then come out with such nonsense as this, ripped directly from the Thatcherite playbook. You really are deluded.

[LordRaven]

Did you get a job yet? If not why not.

I am not feeling the need at the moment, the weather is still good and I am about to start selling one site tI agreed for a developer that will earn me a large wad, plus I have him offering on another that will make me money on the way in and when the properties are sold --double whammy!!
And I am also showing him another site on Friday, and that is looking promising too.
I am starting to think I can make more money for less work and a lot less stress simply by carrying out a few searches and checking local authority websites for planning consents, CIL contributions etc from my laptop at home.
If it does work I will have a far more relaxed lifestyle and probably earn more money. Early days but this is my line of thinking at the moment.
It might fail but if it does I will just phone people I know in good positions at various firms to see if they need my help.
One never knows how things will pan out but I am sure that I will be fine.
Thanks for your concern.

Ah so all you care about is money, figures.

Well it does help in the modern world but you have clearly misunderstood the fact I will have a pretty stress free life and more leisure time --which is good isn't it? Are you saying you don't have any money and is that why you hate rich people?
The politics of envy? It explains a lot, many thanks

The politics of envy! You don't even realise that just a tired old meaningless foundationless fucking newspaper propaganda line ffs.
One things is perfectly clear Raven.
You're as Tory blue as you were last time you were here despite the pathetic denials.
This is exactly what you were last time you were here .... a fucking spineless Tory boy who won't admit it.
Again.

May is useless and I will not be voting Tory whilst she is at the helm

[Gigabit]

And Gigabit disappears? Funny that!

Sorry I had to go away for half an hour, I'm not obsessed with arguing on the Internet...

Truly desperate stuff.

[Lady Murasaki]

Are you waiting for Bozo to be pm?

[LordRaven]

Well it does help in the modern world but you have clearly misunderstood the fact I will have a pretty stress free life and more leisure time --which is good isn't it? Are you saying you don't have any money and is that why you hate rich people?
The politics of envy? It explains a lot, many thanks

I'm very well off but I see life as more than money. And being in the position I am in, I appreciate how lucky I am and how so many live with less. So it is not envy at all. But sorry I didn't fit your stereotype

Very well off? Then practice what you preach by making a gesture. Sell all property you have and drain your bank account and donate it all to the poor to help redress the social injustice that clearly concerns you so much.
If you don't then you are just a champagne socialist hypocrite who does not represent the poor at all.
So will you do it?

What a ridiculous and absurd comment. You accuse me of envy and then come out with such nonsense as this, ripped directly from the Thatcherite playbook. You really are deluded.

Proof, you will not put your money where you mouth is and everything you say is nothing but hot air.
I have no wish to hear you, self confessed rich boy, bloviating shite about social injustice when you refuse to help the poor by sharing your wealth with them.

[LordRaven]

And Gigabit disappears? Funny that!

Sorry I had to go away for half an hour, I'm not obsessed with arguing on the Internet...

Truly desperate stuff.

Counting your wealth?