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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby wutang » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:08 am

TaxPayers’ Alliance concedes it launched smears against Brexit whistleblower

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... hed-smears


Quite a remarkable case in that the TPA conceded on every count, and will now have to pay "substantial damages", purely to avoid having to submit its documents in court
(especially where it gets its funding from)

Chris Milsom, a barrister who specialises in whistle-blowing cases, said: “It is incredibly unusual for a respondent to make a complete concession on liability as the respondent has here. To wave a white flag to avoid disclosing documents and giving evidence in court is really unusual. They conceded everything. How does an ostensibly private company come to be working with Downing Street? What is their relationship? Who are their funders?

“If this had been fully ventilated in a public trial we could have found these things out. The effect of these admissions, however, is that Mr Sanni was dismissed both because he blew the whistle on electoral crimes and because of his philosophical belief in the sanctity of democracy. We must now ask: is that an entity that is fit to be on the BBC ostensibly speaking on behalf of all ‘taxpayers’?”


Other revelations they admitted to:

The uncontested claim has stated that the TaxPayers’ Alliance is responsible for Elliott’s Brexit Central website as part of nine “linked” high-profile rightwing “thinktanks” that operate in and around offices at 55 Tufton Street in Westminster and coordinate media and other strategy.

In Sanni’s case, they also coordinated with Downing Street.

The network includes the Adam Smith Institute, the Centre for Policy Studies, the Institute of Economic Affairs and Leave Means Leave. The shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, is calling for a full inquiry into the groups’ funding and said that in the interests of “openness and accountability” the BBC must make clear they are lobbyists, not thinktanks” as they are sometimes referred to.
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby wutang » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:14 am

Article from earlier this year detailing what these 'think tanks' have been getting up to

Revealed: how the UK’s powerful right-wing think tanks and Conservative MPs work together

https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/brexit ... -and-conse
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby MungoBrush » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:00 am

Cannydc wrote:Corbyn is bound by party policy, so he can say whatever he likes, it matters not. Labour with Tory rebels will vote down Treeza's 'deal' and the result will either be a 'People's Vote' or a GE. Either way, Brexit is dead in the water.


guest wrote "I see jezza has said no second vote"
You said "Drivel"
I posted Corbyn's exact words
Looks like you are the one posting drivel - again ......
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby McAz » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:08 am

MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Corbyn is bound by party policy, so he can say whatever he likes, it matters not. Labour with Tory rebels will vote down Treeza's 'deal' and the result will either be a 'People's Vote' or a GE. Either way, Brexit is dead in the water.


guest wrote "I see jezza has said no second vote"
You said "Drivel"
I posted Corbyn's exact words
Looks like you are the one posting drivel - again ......

Yes, Mango, but LP policy is determined by its membership, not JC - what is it you don't understand? :scratch:
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby MungoBrush » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:03 pm

McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Corbyn is bound by party policy, so he can say whatever he likes, it matters not. Labour with Tory rebels will vote down Treeza's 'deal' and the result will either be a 'People's Vote' or a GE. Either way, Brexit is dead in the water.


guest wrote "I see jezza has said no second vote"
You said "Drivel"
I posted Corbyn's exact words
Looks like you are the one posting drivel - again ......

Yes, Mango, but LP policy is determined by its membership, not JC - what is it you don't understand? :scratch:


And as we know, it’s no surprise Corbyn contradicting Labour Party policy as he has voted against the Labour Government more times than David Cameron

Which is fine when you are just a ratbag MP slinging mud from the sidelines

But is it appropriate behaviour for the leader of the party?
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby Cannydc » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:17 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Corbyn is bound by party policy, so he can say whatever he likes, it matters not. Labour with Tory rebels will vote down Treeza's 'deal' and the result will either be a 'People's Vote' or a GE. Either way, Brexit is dead in the water.


guest wrote "I see jezza has said no second vote"
You said "Drivel"
I posted Corbyn's exact words
Looks like you are the one posting drivel - again ......

Yes, Mango, but LP policy is determined by its membership, not JC - what is it you don't understand? :scratch:


And as we know, it’s no surprise Corbyn contradicting Labour Party policy as he has voted against the Labour Government more times than David Cameron

Which is fine when you are just a ratbag MP slinging mud from the sidelines

But is it appropriate behaviour for the leader of the party?


It matters not one ha'porth. You seem to forget that Treeza and many of her cabinet were Remainers. Politicians are in thrall to the party, and the people.
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby McAz » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:30 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Corbyn is bound by party policy, so he can say whatever he likes, it matters not. Labour with Tory rebels will vote down Treeza's 'deal' and the result will either be a 'People's Vote' or a GE. Either way, Brexit is dead in the water.


guest wrote "I see jezza has said no second vote"
You said "Drivel"
I posted Corbyn's exact words
Looks like you are the one posting drivel - again ......

Yes, Mango, but LP policy is determined by its membership, not JC - what is it you don't understand? :scratch:


And as we know, it’s no surprise Corbyn contradicting Labour Party policy as he has voted against the Labour Government more times than David Cameron

Which is fine when you are just a ratbag MP slinging mud from the sidelines

But is it appropriate behaviour for the leader of the party?


The leader has a right to express his/her individual view. Mingo - but at the end of the day he/she must implement the democratically determined policy of their party or move aside.
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby MungoBrush » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:52 pm

McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Corbyn is bound by party policy, so he can say whatever he likes, it matters not. Labour with Tory rebels will vote down Treeza's 'deal' and the result will either be a 'People's Vote' or a GE. Either way, Brexit is dead in the water.


guest wrote "I see jezza has said no second vote"
You said "Drivel"
I posted Corbyn's exact words
Looks like you are the one posting drivel - again ......

Yes, Mango, but LP policy is determined by its membership, not JC - what is it you don't understand? :scratch:


And as we know, it’s no surprise Corbyn contradicting Labour Party policy as he has voted against the Labour Government more times than David Cameron

Which is fine when you are just a ratbag MP slinging mud from the sidelines

But is it appropriate behaviour for the leader of the party?


The leader has a right to express his/her individual view. Mingo - but at the end of the day he/she must implement the democratically determined policy of their party or move aside.


So the Leader of the Labour Party is just a puppet.
Has to do what he’s told
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby McAz » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:56 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
McAz wrote:The leader has a right to express his/her individual view. Mingo - but at the end of the day he/she must implement the democratically determined policy of their party or move aside.


So the Leader of the Labour Party is just a puppet.
Has to do what he’s told

What would you prefer in a democracy, Mingo, a dictator?
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby calitom » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:11 am

RIP Europe. It started with mass immigration.It continued with anti free speech laws and insanely high taxes.It ends with a weak leftist superstate.


--I'm still praying that the vote of the people is followed.But I am not optimistic because Torie leaders really dont want brexit.
Delay delay delay,.....water down water down water down...til the unelected with the real power get the result they want
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby Cannydc » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:41 am

"So the Leader of the Labour Party is just a puppet.
Has to do what he’s told"

Yes.

It's called Democracy.

You should try it sometime.
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby LordRaven » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:43 pm

Stooo wrote:
LordRaven wrote:I am dreading our departure.


This should scare the shit out of you then


I like the author of that piece, he is someone I feel I could trust, and I think he is spot on in what he has said there.

Interesting that he went off onto totally unrelated tube rage, I have seen a few cases myself recently. Did you experience any from Ruislip Manor into town and back?
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby LordRaven » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:49 pm

Stooo wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
McAz wrote:Some 20,000 people were questioned in a Survation poll for Channel 4 which estimated 105 local authority areas that voted Leave in 2016 would now be carried by the Remain side. (MSN Today)

But let's continue ever downwards. :sad:


54% Remain 46% Leave

Even the Sunderland Massive are seeing the light.

The People's Vote is coming.


We can but hope. :thumbsup:


You can do more, write to your MP!
No need, he voted Remain and continually seems to be against us leaving
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby LordRaven » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:53 pm

Cannydc wrote:Corbyn is bound by party policy, so he can say whatever he likes, it matters not. Labour with Tory rebels will vote down Treeza's 'deal' and the result will either be a 'People's Vote' or a GE. Either way, Brexit is dead in the water.


Oh I wish it were that simple.
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Re: Brexit Satire

Postby Cannydc » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:10 pm

LordRaven wrote:
Cannydc wrote:Corbyn is bound by party policy, so he can say whatever he likes, it matters not. Labour with Tory rebels will vote down Treeza's 'deal' and the result will either be a 'People's Vote' or a GE. Either way, Brexit is dead in the water.


Oh I wish it were that simple.


Brexit is already dead, to all intents and purposes. Only the fanatic leavers and the dreadfully ill informed think otherwise.
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