Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Guest » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:40 am

A cash-strapped primary school is asking pupils to vacuum classrooms at the end of the day because it cannot afford to replace the cleaner, while the headteacher’s husband is doing the plumbing for free.
Ministers have failed to explain where schools will find savings, watchdog says
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In a stark example of how the government’s funding cuts are hitting schools across the country, Furzedown primary school, in the London borough of Wandsworth, has been forced to make cutbacks to try to balance the books.

It is one of thousands of schools struggling to make ends meet during the funding crisis. Thousands of parents, teachers and governors held local events as part of a national day of action to protest against the cuts, which will see schools in England face a real-terms reduction of £3bn once inflation is taken into account.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... -cuts-bite

:grrrrr: FFS!


Let kids be kids, they shouldn't have to clean their own classrooms and be troubled with that sort of shit!
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Wilson » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:22 pm

The school I work in asked parents, staff & pupils to volunteer to come in and paint the school over the summer holidays. We had loads come into help but it looked a right state. :ooer:
We literally can't afford basic staffing atm so definitely no money for professional decorators sadly.

We still have our cleaners but nowhere near enough lunchtime staff. Teachers & TAs regularly get asked to help in the canteen, forgoing their own lunchbreak for no extra money.

Its pretty bad.
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:42 pm

When they've done at school they can come round and do my chimney.
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Nivarna » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:00 pm

I was reading about school saying the same thing in our local paper. It was all cash strapped for about 4 paragraphs... When I got to the last paragraph, it was saying how the school had given all of the kids I-pads and that they used interactive tables. Surely things were out synch when it came to priorities in their case :shake head:
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Wilson » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:34 pm

Nivarna wrote:I was reading about school saying the same thing in our local paper. It was all cash strapped for about 4 paragraphs... When I got to the last paragraph, it was saying how the school had given all of the kids I-pads and that they used interactive tables. Surely things were out synch when it came to priorities in their case :shake head:


Every 1st world country is using Ipads in schools. No reason the 6th richest economy should be left behind.
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Nivarna » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:58 pm

Wilson wrote:
Nivarna wrote:I was reading about school saying the same thing in our local paper. It was all cash strapped for about 4 paragraphs... When I got to the last paragraph, it was saying how the school had given all of the kids I-pads and that they used interactive tables. Surely things were out synch when it came to priorities in their case :shake head:


Every 1st world country is using Ipads in schools. No reason the 6th richest economy should be left behind.


From the feedback to the article, many of the parents were saying that the Ipads were hardly used for the mojority of the school day. Plus many were having problems with there not being enough chargers and cables. Added to the fact that many kids weren't charging their devices.

Surely if a School is having problems with day services and running costs, wasting money on Ipads etc should be taken into consideration. They are hardly necessities are they? Especially if seldom used.
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Wilson » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:20 pm

Nivarna wrote:
Wilson wrote:
Nivarna wrote:I was reading about school saying the same thing in our local paper. It was all cash strapped for about 4 paragraphs... When I got to the last paragraph, it was saying how the school had given all of the kids I-pads and that they used interactive tables. Surely things were out synch when it came to priorities in their case :shake head:


Every 1st world country is using Ipads in schools. No reason the 6th richest economy should be left behind.


From the feedback to the article, many of the parents were saying that the Ipads were hardly used for the mojority of the school day. Plus many were having problems with there not being enough chargers and cables. Added to the fact that many kids weren't charging their devices.

Surely if a School is having problems with day services and running costs, wasting money on Ipads etc should be taken into consideration. They are hardly necessities are they? Especially if seldom used.


They absolutely are necessities, if we're to keep up with the rest of the western world.
If chargers are getting lost & Ipads not getting used that's just a matter of poor organisation on the schools part.
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby wutang » Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:26 pm

Nivarna wrote:Surely if a School is having problems with day services and running costs, wasting money on Ipads etc should be taken into consideration. They are hardly necessities are they? Especially if seldom used.


This is where inequality becomes systematised. In an increasingly technologically-driven society the use of things like Tablets are important for functioning within it - more and more services are becoming accessible only online and more and more jobs require a basic understanding of them.

Also the range of educational functions they provide is extensive and makes them cost effective - my sis teaches primary school and they use ipads to teach everything from music, art, coding, editing, history, geography etc. Imagine how much more it would cost to buy all the separate equipment for these subjects.

If we want to tackle social inequality then all kids should have access to these things at school.
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Maddog » Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:45 pm

That's standard in Japan. But so is jumping in front of trains, so there's that.
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Edumackaishun » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:15 pm

Nivarna wrote:I was reading about school saying the same thing in our local paper. It was all cash strapped for about 4 paragraphs... When I got to the last paragraph, it was saying how the school had given all of the kids I-pads and that they used interactive tables. Surely things were out synch when it came to priorities in their case :shake head:


Yeah, give em all abacuses. That'll learn em :twirl:
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Guest » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:29 pm

Guest wrote:A cash-strapped primary school is asking pupils to vacuum classrooms at the end of the day because it cannot afford to replace the cleaner, while the headteacher’s husband is doing the plumbing for free.
Ministers have failed to explain where schools will find savings, watchdog says
Read more

In a stark example of how the government’s funding cuts are hitting schools across the country, Furzedown primary school, in the London borough of Wandsworth, has been forced to make cutbacks to try to balance the books.

It is one of thousands of schools struggling to make ends meet during the funding crisis. Thousands of parents, teachers and governors held local events as part of a national day of action to protest against the cuts, which will see schools in England face a real-terms reduction of £3bn once inflation is taken into account.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... -cuts-bite

:grrrrr: FFS!


Let kids be kids, they shouldn't have to clean their own classrooms and be troubled with that sort of shit!





And it's going to be worst after Brexit :pmsl:
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Guest » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:36 pm

Nivarna wrote:I was reading about school saying the same thing in our local paper. It was all cash strapped for about 4 paragraphs... When I got to the last paragraph, it was saying how the school had given all of the kids I-pads and that they used interactive tables. Surely things were out synch when it came to priorities in their case :shake head:






It's 2018 not 1918, Kids need to use the technology of the day if they are ever to compete in the modern world.
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Wilson » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:46 pm

Panic over!
The Chancellor has just pledged £400m "for those little extras schools need at the moment".

Basic staffing levels are now "little extras". Cheers Philip. :dafinger:
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Avon Barksdale » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:58 pm

wutang wrote:
Nivarna wrote:Surely if a School is having problems with day services and running costs, wasting money on Ipads etc should be taken into consideration. They are hardly necessities are they? Especially if seldom used.


This is where inequality becomes systematised. In an increasingly technologically-driven society the use of things like Tablets are important for functioning within it - more and more services are becoming accessible only online and more and more jobs require a basic understanding of them.

Also the range of educational functions they provide is extensive and makes them cost effective - my sis teaches primary school and they use ipads to teach everything from music, art, coding, editing, history, geography etc. Imagine how much more it would cost to buy all the separate equipment for these subjects.

If we want to tackle social inequality then all kids should have access to these things at school.


Bang.On.The.Money.

IT equipment isn't a luxury - it's a vital educational tool to provide children with the skills to deal with the world that presents itself today and the workplace of tomorrow.
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Re: Primary kids made to clean classrooms

Postby Cannydc » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:23 pm

Maddog wrote:That's standard in Japan. But so is jumping in front of trains, so there's that.


At least their trains are on time.

In fact, I should have said that we're lucky to get a train at all.
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