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Postby ATXn;D » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:19 am

From the same link, Jake Tapper - CNN

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NYT: The 142 "anti-Semitic incidents have constituted half of all hate crimes in New York this year," per NYPD. 4x as many crimes motivated by bias against Jews as there have against blacks. More than crimes agains transgender people by a factor of 20


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From same NYT story, and of significance: "During the past 22 months, not one person caught or identified as the aggressor in an anti-Semitic hate crime has been associated with a far right-wing group," per NYPD.
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby Grafenwalder » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:29 am

ATXn;D wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
ATXn;D wrote:
wutang wrote:

The far-right certainly feel emboldened recently





NYC SYNAGOGUE VANDALISM SUSPECT IS FORMER CITY HALL ANTI-HATE CRIME INTERN


The suspect in the vandalism of a New York synagogue was a Democratic activist and former City Hall intern who worked on anti-hate crime issues, The Daily Caller News Foundation has learned.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/03/nyc- ... m-suspect/


Yeah, a real 'right winger' :roll:

Daily Caller a right wing media link? No bias there then eh? Not to mention it's history with a deputy editor who had written pieces under a pseudonym in the white supremacist publication Radix Journal from 2014 to 2015 and "expressed white nationalist views, as well as racist anti-black and antisemitic views."

Oh dear. Not a particularly credible source!



Lol, what utter BS. :roll:

So tell it to the NYPD, CBS and CNN. They're ALL reporting the SAME THING


Dem activist and former City Hall anti-hate crime staffer’ charged with antisemitic vandalism & arson in NYC

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/11/ ... on-in-nyc/

Really? Are they? I had a look and here's a para from CNN

Suspect had troubles, mentor says

Former New York City Council speaker Christine Quinn said she knows the suspect. He had an internship with Quinn when she was on the council, according to a New York Times profile done last year on Polite.

She tweeted that she and others have tried to help him as he went though the foster care and mental health systems and he dealt with homelessness."The actions he is accused of break my heart and devastate all of us who tried to help him get on solid footing over the years. And while he has experienced hardship that most people can't ever imagine, his actions are inexcusable," she wrote.


Sort of puts it in another light doesn't it?

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/03/us/n ... index.html
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby Grafenwalder » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:43 am

Here's more about your Daily Caller. I suppose this is all 'BS' too is it?

Moses Apostaticus, aka David Hilton, contributed over 20 articles to the website between August 2016 and April 2017. Apostaticus’ writings for The Daily Caller focused on antifa, George Soros, "identity politics" and "cultural Marxism." One column was titled "Donald Trump Is America’s Julius Caesar."

Elsewhere Apostaticus shared antisemitic memes and claimed that Israel was behind the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. "The cabal plan on creating a world government in Jerusalem after they cull the goyim with World War III," read one post. On Facebook, Apostaticus shared an article detailing the role IBM played in the Holocaust with the caption "IBM did nothing wrong."

The neo-Nazi protest in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August that left one dead and 19 injured was organized by another former Daily Caller contributor, Jason Kessler. Kessler covered the original May 2017 Charlottesville demonstration for the publication and failed to disclose that he also helped organize and spoke at the event. The Daily Caller quietly deleted Kessler's work after the violence in August, as it did a video encouraging drivers to run down antiracist protesters.

Still employed at The Daily Caller, however, is deputy editor Scott Greer. Photos of Greer shared on Facebook and captured by antiracist activists strongly suggest that he’s friends with several well-known white nationalist activists. One photo shows Greer wearing a t-shirt for a defunct group called Youth for Western Civilization, a forerunner to today’s white nationalist campus organizations.


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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby ATXn;D » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:54 am

Grafenwalder wrote:
ATXn;D wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
ATXn;D wrote:
wutang wrote:

The far-right certainly feel emboldened recently





NYC SYNAGOGUE VANDALISM SUSPECT IS FORMER CITY HALL ANTI-HATE CRIME INTERN


The suspect in the vandalism of a New York synagogue was a Democratic activist and former City Hall intern who worked on anti-hate crime issues, The Daily Caller News Foundation has learned.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/03/nyc- ... m-suspect/


Yeah, a real 'right winger' :roll:

Daily Caller a right wing media link? No bias there then eh? Not to mention it's history with a deputy editor who had written pieces under a pseudonym in the white supremacist publication Radix Journal from 2014 to 2015 and "expressed white nationalist views, as well as racist anti-black and antisemitic views."

Oh dear. Not a particularly credible source!



Lol, what utter BS. :roll:

So tell it to the NYPD, CBS and CNN. They're ALL reporting the SAME THING


Dem activist and former City Hall anti-hate crime staffer’ charged with antisemitic vandalism & arson in NYC

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/11/ ... on-in-nyc/

Really? Are they? I had a look and here's a para from CNN

Suspect had troubles, mentor says

Former New York City Council speaker Christine Quinn said she knows the suspect. He had an internship with Quinn when she was on the council, according to a New York Times profile done last year on Polite.

She tweeted that she and others have tried to help him as he went though the foster care and mental health systems and he dealt with homelessness."The actions he is accused of break my heart and devastate all of us who tried to help him get on solid footing over the years. And while he has experienced hardship that most people can't ever imagine, his actions are inexcusable," she wrote.


Sort of puts it in another light doesn't it?

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/03/us/n ... index.html



And? :dunno:

This somehow entitles you to practice anti semitism and violence?

The mail bomber was mentally ill, but that wasnt the spin you put on that :roll:

Meanwhile, from the NYT story on james polite:




James Polite spent much of his childhood in foster care.

In high school alone, Mr. Polite estimates, he was placed in 10 different homes. And he received little encouragement from social workers to go to college.

But Mr. Polite, now 25, still believed that college was the best next step. He found encouragement as a volunteer in his teens, registering voters and canvassing neighborhoods in New York City during Barack Obama’s first presidential bid. Mentors on the campaign trail urged him to pursue higher education.

In 2008, at a gay pride rally for Mr. Obama, Mr. Polite met Christine C. Quinn, then the City Council speaker.

Ms. Quinn still remembers their introduction on the steps of City Hall. “James was telling me his story,” she recalled recently in an interview. “And I said, ‘Do you have an internship?’ And he said ‘No.’ And I said, ‘Well, you do now.’”

.....

He interned with Ms. Quinn, a Manhattan Democrat, for several years, working on initiatives to combat hate crime, sexual assault and domestic violence. He also took part in her re-election campaign in 2009 and returned to help with her unsuccessful bid for mayor in 2013.

“James was the adopted child of the Quinn administration,” she said. “And it wasn’t just me. It was the entire City Council staff.”


.....

Read more here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/nyre ... break.html
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby ATXn;D » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:25 am

Grafenwalder wrote:Here's more about your Daily Caller. I suppose this is all 'BS' too is it?

Moses Apostaticus, aka David Hilton, contributed over 20 articles to the website between August 2016 and April 2017. Apostaticus’ writings for The Daily Caller focused on antifa, George Soros, "identity politics" and "cultural Marxism." One column was titled "Donald Trump Is America’s Julius Caesar."

Elsewhere Apostaticus shared antisemitic memes and claimed that Israel was behind the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. "The cabal plan on creating a world government in Jerusalem after they cull the goyim with World War III," read one post. On Facebook, Apostaticus shared an article detailing the role IBM played in the Holocaust with the caption "IBM did nothing wrong."

The neo-Nazi protest in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August that left one dead and 19 injured was organized by another former Daily Caller contributor, Jason Kessler. Kessler covered the original May 2017 Charlottesville demonstration for the publication and failed to disclose that he also helped organize and spoke at the event. The Daily Caller quietly deleted Kessler's work after the violence in August, as it did a video encouraging drivers to run down antiracist protesters.

Still employed at The Daily Caller, however, is deputy editor Scott Greer. Photos of Greer shared on Facebook and captured by antiracist activists strongly suggest that he’s friends with several well-known white nationalist activists. One photo shows Greer wearing a t-shirt for a defunct group called Youth for Western Civilization, a forerunner to today’s white nationalist campus organizations.


https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... ationalist




Lolol, and you talk about 'sources' :gigglesnshit:

Meanwhile, MSNBC employs al sharpton, hes not just some contributor. :roll:
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby Grafenwalder » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:28 am

ATXn;D wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:Really? Are they? I had a look and here's a para from CNN

Suspect had troubles, mentor says

Former New York City Council speaker Christine Quinn said she knows the suspect. He had an internship with Quinn when she was on the council, according to a New York Times profile done last year on Polite.

She tweeted that she and others have tried to help him as he went though the foster care and mental health systems and he dealt with homelessness."The actions he is accused of break my heart and devastate all of us who tried to help him get on solid footing over the years. And while he has experienced hardship that most people can't ever imagine, his actions are inexcusable," she wrote.


Sort of puts it in another light doesn't it?

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/03/us/n ... index.html



And? :dunno:

This somehow entitles you to practice anti semitism and violence?

The mail bomber was mentally ill, but that wasnt the spin you put on that :roll:

Of course it doesn't and there was no "spin" put on anything, at least not by me. Just that there was rather more to the story than what you initially posted, as there often is when digging a bit deeper beyond a particular narrative.
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby Grafenwalder » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:32 am

ATXn;D wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:Here's more about your Daily Caller. I suppose this is all 'BS' too is it?

Moses Apostaticus, aka David Hilton, contributed over 20 articles to the website between August 2016 and April 2017. Apostaticus’ writings for The Daily Caller focused on antifa, George Soros, "identity politics" and "cultural Marxism." One column was titled "Donald Trump Is America’s Julius Caesar."

Elsewhere Apostaticus shared antisemitic memes and claimed that Israel was behind the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. "The cabal plan on creating a world government in Jerusalem after they cull the goyim with World War III," read one post. On Facebook, Apostaticus shared an article detailing the role IBM played in the Holocaust with the caption "IBM did nothing wrong."

The neo-Nazi protest in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August that left one dead and 19 injured was organized by another former Daily Caller contributor, Jason Kessler. Kessler covered the original May 2017 Charlottesville demonstration for the publication and failed to disclose that he also helped organize and spoke at the event. The Daily Caller quietly deleted Kessler's work after the violence in August, as it did a video encouraging drivers to run down antiracist protesters.

Still employed at The Daily Caller, however, is deputy editor Scott Greer. Photos of Greer shared on Facebook and captured by antiracist activists strongly suggest that he’s friends with several well-known white nationalist activists. One photo shows Greer wearing a t-shirt for a defunct group called Youth for Western Civilization, a forerunner to today’s white nationalist campus organizations.


https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... ationalist




Lolol, and you talk about 'sources' :gigglesnshit:

Meanwhile, MSNBC employs al sharpton, hes not just some contributor. :roll:

There's plenty of evidence you can source elsewhere re Greers political 'activities' but i notice you've neither disputed or challenged it with anything.
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby Cannydc » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:52 am

Has the Mail Bomber been psychologically assessed, and a report officially released confirming he is mentally ill ?
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby wutang » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:55 am

ATXn;D wrote:
wutang wrote:

The far-right certainly feel emboldened recently





NYC SYNAGOGUE VANDALISM SUSPECT IS FORMER CITY HALL ANTI-HATE CRIME INTERN


The suspect in the vandalism of a New York synagogue was a Democratic activist and former City Hall intern who worked on anti-hate crime issues, The Daily Caller News Foundation has learned.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/03/nyc- ... m-suspect/


Yeah, a real 'right winger' :roll:


So the other incidents with the swastikas are also this guy? :dunno:
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby ATXn;D » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:17 am

wutang wrote:
ATXn;D wrote:
wutang wrote:

The far-right certainly feel emboldened recently





NYC SYNAGOGUE VANDALISM SUSPECT IS FORMER CITY HALL ANTI-HATE CRIME INTERN


The suspect in the vandalism of a New York synagogue was a Democratic activist and former City Hall intern who worked on anti-hate crime issues, The Daily Caller News Foundation has learned.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/03/nyc- ... m-suspect/


Yeah, a real 'right winger' :roll:


So the other incidents with the swastikas are also this guy? :dunno:




Dont know. Ask the NYPD. They know who it WASN'T:

(Jake Tapper
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From same NYT story, and of significance: "During the past 22 months, not one person caught or identified as the aggressor in an anti-Semitic hate crime has been associated with a far right-wing group," per NYPD.)
^^^ the people YOU tred to malign :hand:

As for the nazi shit, ask LEFT WINGER BEZOS, the OWNER or AMAZON. :roll:
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby wutang » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:54 am

ATXn;D wrote:


Dont know. Ask the NYPD. They know who it WASN'T:


FBI warned of white supremacists in law enforcement 10 years ago. Has anything changed?

In the 2006 bulletin, the FBI detailed the threat of white nationalists and skinheads infiltrating police in order to disrupt investigations against fellow members and recruit other supremacists.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi ... nforcement


Well known that cops are either indifferent to white nationalist terror or are actively supportive of it.

Just in Pittsburgh where the shooting happened

A Philadelphia policeman with a Nazi tattoo on his forearm was cleared of violating department policy by an internal review.

The Philadelphia Police Department announced the review after a photograph surfaced online of an officer, Ian Hans Lichterman, 39, sporting a tattoo that the mayor called “incredibly offensive,” especially to veterans and victims of the Nazis. The tattoo features a spread-winged eagle under the word “Fatherland.”

The review cleared Lichterman of any offense in December, since the department has no official policy on tattoos.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/philly-co ... rongdoing/


More on the guy here

https://itsgoingdown.org/philadelphia-p ... od-honour/
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby wutang » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:58 am

I suppose all the white supremacist posters being put up around NY over the last couple of months were also nothing to do with the far right :ooer:

https://www.recordonline.com/news/20180 ... middletown

No way these guys would also plaster swatikas around NY as well :roll:
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby wutang » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:06 am

U.S. Law Enforcement Failed to See the Threat of White Nationalism. Now They Don’t Know How to Stop It.

For two decades, domestic counterterrorism strategy has ignored the rising danger of far-right extremism. In the atmosphere of willful indifference, a virulent movement has grown and metastasized.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/maga ... right.html


Number of white nationalist/far right terror attacks far bigger than all other (including Islamic terror).

White supremacists and other far-right extremists have killed far more people since Sept. 11, 2001, than any other category of domestic extremist. The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism has reported that 71 percent of the extremist-related fatalities in the United States between 2008 and 2017 were committed by members of the far right or white-supremacist movements. Islamic extremists were responsible for just 26 percent. Data compiled by the University of Maryland’s Global Terrorism Database shows that the number of terror-related incidents has more than tripled in the United States since 2013, and the number of those killed has quadrupled. In 2017, there were 65 incidents totaling 95 deaths. In a recent analysis of the data by the news site Quartz, roughly 60 percent of those incidents were driven by racist, anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic, antigovernment or other right-wing ideologies. Left-wing ideologies, like radical environmentalism, were responsible for 11 attacks. Muslim extremists committed just seven attacks.


Unsurprisingly the cops dont seem to really care

“The F.B.I. knows how many bank robberies there were last year,” says Michael German, an author of the Brennan Center report and a former F.B.I. agent, “but it doesn’t know how many white supremacists attacked people, how many they injured or killed.”

More concerning to German, though, is that law enforcement seems uninterested in policing the violent far right.


Probably because as the FBI themselves warned... the far right have long since infiltrated Law enforcement :bell:
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby ATXn;D » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:07 am

wutang wrote:I suppose all the white supremacist posters being put up around NY over the last couple of months were also nothing to do with the far right :ooer:

https://www.recordonline.com/news/20180 ... middletown

No way these guys would also plaster swatikas around NY as well :roll:



Yeah. NYPD is lying for white supremicists and CNN and the NYT are covering for them :pmsl:
Seek help :roll:
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Re: US synagogue shooting

Postby wutang » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:13 am

ATXn;D wrote:
wutang wrote:I suppose all the white supremacist posters being put up around NY over the last couple of months were also nothing to do with the far right :ooer:

https://www.recordonline.com/news/20180 ... middletown

No way these guys would also plaster swatikas around NY as well :roll:



Yeah. NYPD is lying for white supremicists and CNN and the NYT are covering for them :pmsl:
Seek help :roll:



See previous posts. FBI warned over a decade ago that the far right were infiltrating law enforcement specifically to disrupt investigations against fellow members and recruit other supremacists.
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