Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby McAz » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:14 pm

LordRaven wrote:
McAz wrote:
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McAz wrote:I don't care what people once upon a time said. If the Falklands are not a net contributor to the British economy - which they are not - they can stick their vote.

Well I guess you are anti-Barnett formula and want the Welsh and the Scots to bugger off too then?

I support Scottish independence, always have - the Welsh can follow suit if they wish.


And N.I. too no doubt? That is very telling, it seems the Barnett formula is something you are no great fan of.
Wanting all the bankers to stop spending their money on less well off people?
Pretty selfish

No doubt. :thumbsup:
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby LordRaven » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:17 pm

McAz wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
McAz wrote:
LordRaven wrote:Well I guess you are anti-Barnett formula and want the Welsh and the Scots to bugger off too then?

I support Scottish independence, always have - the Welsh can follow suit if they wish.


And N.I. too no doubt? That is very telling, it seems the Barnett formula is something you are no great fan of.
Wanting all the bankers to stop spending their money on less well off people?
Pretty selfish

No doubt. :thumbsup:


And there was me thinking you were a socialist, but I guess you aren't happy that poor people get more under the Barnett Formula and would even go so far (judging by your posts) that you resent their doing so.
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby McAz » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:18 pm

LordRaven wrote:
McAz wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
McAz wrote:
LordRaven wrote:Well I guess you are anti-Barnett formula and want the Welsh and the Scots to bugger off too then?

I support Scottish independence, always have - the Welsh can follow suit if they wish.


And N.I. too no doubt? That is very telling, it seems the Barnett formula is something you are no great fan of.
Wanting all the bankers to stop spending their money on less well off people?
Pretty selfish

No doubt. :thumbsup:


And there was me thinking you were a socialist, but I guess you aren't happy that poor people get more under the Barnett Formula and would even go so far (judging by your posts) that you resent their doing so.

I don't care what you think. :cuppaT:
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby LordRaven » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:21 pm

McAz wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
McAz wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
McAz wrote: I support Scottish independence, always have - the Welsh can follow suit if they wish.


And N.I. too no doubt? That is very telling, it seems the Barnett formula is something you are no great fan of.
Wanting all the bankers to stop spending their money on less well off people?
Pretty selfish

No doubt. :thumbsup:


And there was me thinking you were a socialist, but I guess you aren't happy that poor people get more under the Barnett Formula and would even go so far (judging by your posts) that you resent their doing so.

I don't care what you think. :cuppaT:

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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby McAz » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:24 pm

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Join the club

You don't care what you think either - good man. :thumbsup:
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby LordRaven » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:29 pm

McAz wrote:
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McAz wrote:I don't care what you think. :cuppaT:

Join the club

You don't care what you think either - good man. :thumbsup:

Not when Little Drummer Girl is on TV, see you later.
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby McAz » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:34 pm

LordRaven wrote:
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LordRaven wrote:
McAz wrote:I don't care what you think. :cuppaT:

Join the club

You don't care what you think either - good man. :thumbsup:

Not when Little Drummer Girl is on TV, see you later.

Thanks for the reminder - I forgot about that.
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby LordRaven » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:07 pm

McAz wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
McAz wrote:
LordRaven wrote:Join the club

You don't care what you think either - good man. :thumbsup:

Not when Little Drummer Girl is on TV, see you later.

Thanks for the reminder - I forgot about that.


This girl seems to be happy to walk into a nightmare with absolutely no idea of what she is letting herself in for with no incentive, financial or otherwise, to do so.
Excellent series though.
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby McAz » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:10 pm

LordRaven wrote:
McAz wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
McAz wrote:
LordRaven wrote:Join the club

You don't care what you think either - good man. :thumbsup:

Not when Little Drummer Girl is on TV, see you later.

Thanks for the reminder - I forgot about that.


This girl seems to be happy to walk into a nightmare with absolutely no idea of what she is letting herself in for with no incentive, financial or otherwise, to do so.
Excellent series though.

I haven't had the time to view it yet, so no spoilers please. Glad you reminded me - looking forward to it. :more beer:
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby LordRaven » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:24 pm

I won't, it is amazing. Some really good actors and period authenticity par excellence. Very dark though.
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby McAz » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:23 pm

Interesting...

Why Britain is in the wrong over the Falklands

The Falklands/Malvinas were terra nullius when the French colonised the islands in the 18th century. They were then sold to Spain, a transfer of sovereignty which Britain recognised. However, upon decolonisation and under the principle of uti possidetis, sovereignty should have been transferred to Argentina, which declared independence in 1816. In 1833, Britain expelled the islands' inhabitants. Argentina's Foreign Minister Don Manuel Moreno was told by Prime Minister Palmerston that Argentina "could not reasonably have anticipated that the British Government would permit any other state to exercise a right as derived from Spain which Great Britain had denied to Spain itself."


https://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2012/03/argentina-britain-islands-oil
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby art0hur0moh » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:24 am

The settlement was established as a French colony under the name Port Saint Louis in 1764, and within a year reached a population of 75 (most of them Acadians), with three marriages and two births recorded (once of the births was François Benoit in 1764, son of Agustin Benoit and Françoise Thériault. Sébastien died in 1839, Bay St. George, Newfoundland) – apparently the first ever in the islands' history. After three years of French possession the settlement was ceded to Spain, and all the French settlers left to be replaced by Spaniards. Acting on personal instructions by King Carlos III, the Spanish Government reimbursed the founder of Port St. Louis, Louis Antoine de Bougainville, 618,108 French livres.

Bougainville himself sailed to Port Saint Louis on board the Boudeuse, accompanied by the Spanish ships Esmeralda and Liebre to hand the settlement over to Felipe Ruíz Puente, the first Spanish governor (1767–1773) of Puerto Soledad, as the settlement would become known. The ceremony took place on April 1, 1767, and from Puerto Soledad Bougainville set sail to make the first French circumnavigation of the world.

conclusive! britain invaded argentinian territories! compensation from america and britain for unwarranded and criminal assaults needs to be paid for lawful restitution! the lands where stolen!
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby MungoBrush » Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:44 am

art0hur0moh wrote:The settlement was established as a French colony under the name Port Saint Louis in 1764, and within a year reached a population of 75 (most of them Acadians), with three marriages and two births recorded (once of the births was François Benoit in 1764, son of Agustin Benoit and Françoise Thériault. Sébastien died in 1839, Bay St. George, Newfoundland) – apparently the first ever in the islands' history. After three years of French possession the settlement was ceded to Spain, and all the French settlers left to be replaced by Spaniards. Acting on personal instructions by King Carlos III, the Spanish Government reimbursed the founder of Port St. Louis, Louis Antoine de Bougainville, 618,108 French livres.

Bougainville himself sailed to Port Saint Louis on board the Boudeuse, accompanied by the Spanish ships Esmeralda and Liebre to hand the settlement over to Felipe Ruíz Puente, the first Spanish governor (1767–1773) of Puerto Soledad, as the settlement would become known. The ceremony took place on April 1, 1767, and from Puerto Soledad Bougainville set sail to make the first French circumnavigation of the world.

conclusive! britain invaded argentinian territories! compensation from america and britain for unwarranded and criminal assaults needs to be paid for lawful restitution! the lands where stolen!


You missed out the bit where in 1765 it became a British Colony but it was invaded by the Spanish in 1770 and the British withdrew.

The Falkland Islands have never belonged to Argentina.
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby Guest » Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:30 pm

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art0hur0moh wrote:The settlement was established as a French colony under the name Port Saint Louis in 1764, and within a year reached a population of 75 (most of them Acadians), with three marriages and two births recorded (once of the births was François Benoit in 1764, son of Agustin Benoit and Françoise Thériault. Sébastien died in 1839, Bay St. George, Newfoundland) – apparently the first ever in the islands' history. After three years of French possession the settlement was ceded to Spain, and all the French settlers left to be replaced by Spaniards. Acting on personal instructions by King Carlos III, the Spanish Government reimbursed the founder of Port St. Louis, Louis Antoine de Bougainville, 618,108 French livres.

Bougainville himself sailed to Port Saint Louis on board the Boudeuse, accompanied by the Spanish ships Esmeralda and Liebre to hand the settlement over to Felipe Ruíz Puente, the first Spanish governor (1767–1773) of Puerto Soledad, as the settlement would become known. The ceremony took place on April 1, 1767, and from Puerto Soledad Bougainville set sail to make the first French circumnavigation of the world.
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conclusive! britain invaded argentinian territories! compensation from america and britain for unwarranded and criminal assaults needs to be paid for lawful restitution! the lands where stolen!


You missed out the bit where in 1765 it became a British Colony but it was invaded by the Spanish in 1770 and the British withdrew.

The Falkland Islands have never belonged to Argentina.

The British established a colony on west Falkland only to find that the French had already establish one on east Falkland and this was a long time before a Spaniard set foot there.
This Art Banaba is way off with his highly selective history.
By his measure the world would now be full of law suits and people being booted out of countries their ancestors settled in hundreds of years ago. It’s a stupid bloody argument, Ill thought out and with no regard to peoples birthrights today.
The Argentinian people don’t ever mention the islands until unpopular leaders of theirs do in order to deflect attention away from poor governance.
Add to that British oil finds and all of a sudden they want the islands again.
Britain has invested heavily over the centuries and the islanders self determination is paramount. They and the islands are British. End of.
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Re: Argentina will use no-deal Brexit to take back Falkland Isla

Postby Guest » Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:34 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:The settlement was established as a French colony under the name Port Saint Louis in 1764, and within a year reached a population of 75 (most of them Acadians), with three marriages and two births recorded (once of the births was François Benoit in 1764, son of Agustin Benoit and Françoise Thériault. Sébastien died in 1839, Bay St. George, Newfoundland) – apparently the first ever in the islands' history. After three years of French possession the settlement was ceded to Spain, and all the French settlers left to be replaced by Spaniards. Acting on personal instructions by King Carlos III, the Spanish Government reimbursed the founder of Port St. Louis, Louis Antoine de Bougainville, 618,108 French livres.

Bougainville himself sailed to Port Saint Louis on board the Boudeuse, accompanied by the Spanish ships Esmeralda and Liebre to hand the settlement over to Felipe Ruíz Puente, the first Spanish governor (1767–1773) of Puerto Soledad, as the settlement would become known. The ceremony took place on April 1, 1767, and from Puerto Soledad Bougainville set sail to make the first French circumnavigation of the world.

conclusive! britain invaded argentinian territories! compensation from america and britain for unwarranded and criminal assaults needs to be paid for lawful restitution! the lands where stolen!


You missed out the bit where in 1765 it became a British Colony but it was invaded by the Spanish in 1770 and the British withdrew.

The Falkland Islands have never belonged to Argentina.

Correct! They should respect the islanders wishes to remain British.
Cheeky fuckers! We gave them a kicking and we will give them another if they want.
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