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Re: Blue Wave

Postby McAz » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:26 pm

Maddog wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:Corbynism and Strasserism are the same.


Strasserism

Strasserism is a strand of Nazism that calls for a more radical, mass-action and worker-based form of Nazism—hostile to Jews not from a racial, ethnic, cultural or religious perspective, but from an anti-capitalist basis—to achieve a national rebirth. Wikipedia
Founder: Gregor Strasser

I did too canny and having read the bit about it on google search, one wonders how Ray came by such a 'movement'? :ooer:



Well, there are quite a few anti capitalists around here. It's funny how the left and right sort wind up near each other at times.

Not really, only Ray hates Jews.
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby Maddog » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:34 pm

McAz wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:Corbynism and Strasserism are the same.


Strasserism

Strasserism is a strand of Nazism that calls for a more radical, mass-action and worker-based form of Nazism—hostile to Jews not from a racial, ethnic, cultural or religious perspective, but from an anti-capitalist basis—to achieve a national rebirth. Wikipedia
Founder: Gregor Strasser

I did too canny and having read the bit about it on google search, one wonders how Ray came by such a 'movement'? :ooer:



Well, there are quite a few anti capitalists around here. It's funny how the left and right sort wind up near each other at times.

Not really, only Ray hates Jews.


Ok. Glad to see the shift towards capitalism and away from socialism. Tiny steps towards making the world a better place.
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby McAz » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:36 pm

Maddog wrote:
McAz wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:Corbynism and Strasserism are the same.


Strasserism

Strasserism is a strand of Nazism that calls for a more radical, mass-action and worker-based form of Nazism—hostile to Jews not from a racial, ethnic, cultural or religious perspective, but from an anti-capitalist basis—to achieve a national rebirth. Wikipedia
Founder: Gregor Strasser

I did too canny and having read the bit about it on google search, one wonders how Ray came by such a 'movement'? :ooer:



Well, there are quite a few anti capitalists around here. It's funny how the left and right sort wind up near each other at times.

Not really, only Ray hates Jews.


Ok. Glad to see the shift towards capitalism and away from socialism. Tiny steps towards making the world a better place.


Can't see how hating Jews makes the world a better place. :scratch:
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby Maddog » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:44 pm

Me either. I cant see how hating capitalism does either.
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby McAz » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:47 pm

Maddog wrote:Me either. I cant see how hating capitalism does either.


That's because you favour capitalism - valueless opinion due to subjectiveness.
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby Maddog » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:49 pm

McAz wrote:
Maddog wrote:Me either. I cant see how hating capitalism does either.


That's because you favour capitalism - valueless opinion due to subjectiveness.



Maybe I'm part Jewish?
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby McAz » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:56 pm

Maddog wrote:
McAz wrote:
Maddog wrote:Me either. I cant see how hating capitalism does either.


That's because you favour capitalism - valueless opinion due to subjectiveness.



Maybe I'm part Jewish?

I use to say that I was part Jewish because of my Jewish grandfather. I was roundly chastised by someone in FW (Trop, I think) because Jewishness is pass down through the female line.

(I still eat matzo crackers though). :gigglesnshit:
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby Maddog » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:57 pm

McAz wrote:
Maddog wrote:
McAz wrote:
Maddog wrote:Me either. I cant see how hating capitalism does either.


That's because you favour capitalism - valueless opinion due to subjectiveness.



Maybe I'm part Jewish?

I use to say that I was part Jewish because of my Jewish grandfather. I was roundly chastised by someone in FW (Trop, I think) because Jewishness is pass down through the female line.

(I still eat matzo crackers though). :gigglesnshit:



So I guess a DNA test would be worthless for me. At.least in determining any Jewishness.
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby McAz » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:58 pm

Maddog wrote:
McAz wrote:
Maddog wrote:
McAz wrote:
Maddog wrote:Me either. I cant see how hating capitalism does either.


That's because you favour capitalism - valueless opinion due to subjectiveness.



Maybe I'm part Jewish?

I use to say that I was part Jewish because of my Jewish grandfather. I was roundly chastised by someone in FW (Trop, I think) because Jewishness is pass down through the female line.

(I still eat matzo crackers though). :gigglesnshit:



So I guess a DNA test would be worthless for me. At.least in determining any Jewishness.


I doubt Jews have markedly different genes. Jewishness is more an idea than a race.
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby Wilson » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:57 pm

Incredible that it's taken until 2018 for America to elect a Native American woman into Congress.
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby Maddog » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:04 pm

Wilson wrote:Incredible that it's taken until 2018 for America to elect a Native American woman into Congress.



What about Elizabeth Warren? :gigglesnshit:


I would say that most Hispanic females have some native blood, so it sort of depends on how you define native.

Then there is Tulsi Gabbard. I think she qualifies as native.
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby Wilson » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:15 pm

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Wilson wrote:Incredible that it's taken until 2018 for America to elect a Native American woman into Congress.



What about Elizabeth Warren? :gigglesnshit:


I would say that most Hispanic females have some native blood, so it sort of depends on how you define native.

Then there is Tulsi Gabbard. I think she qualifies as native.


So we're lumping Hispanics and Native Americans together now? I didn't know that.
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby Maddog » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:47 pm

Wilson wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Wilson wrote:Incredible that it's taken until 2018 for America to elect a Native American woman into Congress.



What about Elizabeth Warren? :gigglesnshit:


I would say that most Hispanic females have some native blood, so it sort of depends on how you define native.

Then there is Tulsi Gabbard. I think she qualifies as native.


So we're lumping Hispanics and Native Americans together now? I didn't know that.


Most Hispanics are part Native American. That's why they don't look like Spaniards. It's really kind of up to the person anymore. Two people with virtually the same amount of Native blood, may identify as different races, based more on how and where they are raised. We even have a small contingent of Black Cherokee, as the Cherokee were allowed to bring their black slaves, when the were marched to Oklahoma.

Americans are getting so blended by race and DNA anymore, that I'm not sure it really matters anymore, unless you want to use it to your advantage.
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby Maddog » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:02 pm

Scientists also found that people of mixed European and Native American heritage—two groups that began exchanging genes some 500 years ago during the Spanish colonization—were found to have genomes corresponding to their local indigenous population. A person in the northern state of Sonora, for example, is more likely to have Seri or Tarahumara genomic components while someone from Yucatan, in the country’s southeast, would probably display a Mayan gene component. These, in turn, are as genetically different as the Europeans are from the Chinese.

These results can be used to spot larger trends. “This is not just relevant to Mexico. It’s relevant, number one, to all of Latin America, so a fifth of the world population. The method, the observations, are generalizable to the entire world,” said Burchard.


https://www.newsweek.com/dna-proves-not ... ual-254642


Of course, as you get to the northern part of the US, Alaska and Canada, this is less of a factor.
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Re: Blue Wave

Postby Wilson » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:02 pm

Maddog wrote:
Wilson wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Wilson wrote:Incredible that it's taken until 2018 for America to elect a Native American woman into Congress.



What about Elizabeth Warren? :gigglesnshit:


I would say that most Hispanic females have some native blood, so it sort of depends on how you define native.

Then there is Tulsi Gabbard. I think she qualifies as native.


So we're lumping Hispanics and Native Americans together now? I didn't know that.


Most Hispanics are part Native American. That's why they don't look like Spaniards. It's really kind of up to the person anymore. Two people with virtually the same amount of Native blood, may identify as different races, based more on how and where they are raised. We even have a small contingent of Black Cherokee, as the Cherokee were allowed to bring their black slaves, when the were marched to Oklahoma.

Americans are getting so blended by race and DNA anymore, that I'm not sure it really matters anymore, unless you want to use it to your advantage.


Are Native Americans in agreement with this view of yours? Generally, obviously you haven't asked them all.
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