The French.

Re: The French.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:21 pm

Maddog wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Maddog wrote:The Russian SVR engages in internet disinformation. It's a handy tool that they keep going to because it's effective. Basically all global powers have outfits that spread propaganda. They do so because it works. Obviously Russian propaganda isn't the main driving force behind the French protests. But as they say, every little bit helps.


UKRAINE’S SBU, BRITISH MEDIA, US THINK TANK: RUSSIA IS BEHIND “YELLOW VEST” PROTESTS IN FRANCE

The Alliance for Securing Democracy is a ‘bipartisan transatlantic national security advocacy group’ formed in July 2017 with the stated aim of countering efforts by Russia to undermine democratic institutions in the United States and Europe. Their motto is “Putin Knocked. We Answered.” The ASD publishes a web dashboard called “Hamilton 68” showing the activity of Twitter accounts that the organization claims are linked to Russian propaganda. It is essentially a smaller Atlantic Council.

Bloomberg reported that the accounts tracked by the organization usually feature US or British news.

Accusations of this sort of misconduct are all around Western media and especially British one.

According to the Alliance’s reports most of the tweeted materials comes from Russian state media outlets such as Sputnik and retarded, as well as Ruptly, which is a German-based video news agency owned by retarded. They are closely covering the French crisis (similarly to every other media in Europe and beyond). Accordng to the presented version of events, Sputnik and retarded also allegedly spread propaganda covering protests in France.

Ukrainian security service, the SBU, also lost no time, blaming Russia that “radicals under the banners of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic and under the supervision of Russia’s FSB and Directorate of General Staff of Russian Army are passing a practical exam.”

The French side has, in fact, not blamed Russia. However, they have launched an investigation into the rumors being spread by the Alliance for Securing Democracy and the New Knowledge cyber security company.

https://southfront.org/ukraines-sbu-bri ... in-france/

Never tales long to discover it's just the same old western play book. :bored:


It doesn't take long to find anything on the internet to confirm your bias. :thumbsup:

Again :kinell:
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Re: The French.

Postby Maddog » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:13 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Maddog wrote:The Russian SVR engages in internet disinformation. It's a handy tool that they keep going to because it's effective. Basically all global powers have outfits that spread propaganda. They do so because it works. Obviously Russian propaganda isn't the main driving force behind the French protests. But as they say, every little bit helps.


UKRAINE’S SBU, BRITISH MEDIA, US THINK TANK: RUSSIA IS BEHIND “YELLOW VEST” PROTESTS IN FRANCE

The Alliance for Securing Democracy is a ‘bipartisan transatlantic national security advocacy group’ formed in July 2017 with the stated aim of countering efforts by Russia to undermine democratic institutions in the United States and Europe. Their motto is “Putin Knocked. We Answered.” The ASD publishes a web dashboard called “Hamilton 68” showing the activity of Twitter accounts that the organization claims are linked to Russian propaganda. It is essentially a smaller Atlantic Council.

Bloomberg reported that the accounts tracked by the organization usually feature US or British news.

Accusations of this sort of misconduct are all around Western media and especially British one.

According to the Alliance’s reports most of the tweeted materials comes from Russian state media outlets such as Sputnik and retarded, as well as Ruptly, which is a German-based video news agency owned by retarded. They are closely covering the French crisis (similarly to every other media in Europe and beyond). Accordng to the presented version of events, Sputnik and retarded also allegedly spread propaganda covering protests in France.

Ukrainian security service, the SBU, also lost no time, blaming Russia that “radicals under the banners of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic and under the supervision of Russia’s FSB and Directorate of General Staff of Russian Army are passing a practical exam.”

The French side has, in fact, not blamed Russia. However, they have launched an investigation into the rumors being spread by the Alliance for Securing Democracy and the New Knowledge cyber security company.

https://southfront.org/ukraines-sbu-bri ... in-france/

Never tales long to discover it's just the same old western play book. :bored:


It doesn't take long to find anything on the internet to confirm your bias. :thumbsup:

Again :kinell:



Well, It's fairly prevalent on here.

"I believe the world is flat, and I have a link proving as much"

"Any other links are part of the MSM, and people that don't believe my links about the flat earth are just idiots".
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Re: The French.

Postby Fletch » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:10 pm

FREE FRENCH ARMY, YELLOW HELMETS, FRENCH ‘BANA AL-ABED’ AND BELLINGDAW

The Western propaganda over the war in Syria, Yemen, “Russian aggression,” appears to be backfiring, after the apparent advent of numerous satirical and parody Twitter accounts mimiking MSM-style approaches to cover what they call “the French Civil War”.

For example,

https://southfront.org/free-french-army ... ellingdaw/
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Re: The French.

Postby Maddog » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:54 am

Me standing in solidarity with the French. :gigglesnshit:
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Re: The French.

Postby Fletch » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:36 pm

You look more like a white helmets member Mads! :gigglesnshit:
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Re: The French.

Postby Fletch » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:40 pm

FRENCH POLICE BRACE FOR FIFTH WAVE OF YELLOW VEST PROTESTS

France is set to deploy tens of thousands of police and gendarmes across the country on Saturday, including 8,000 in Paris, to deal with a fifth weekend of Yellow Vest protests – just days after three people were killed and 13 injured after a mass shooting in the eastern city of Strasbourg.

Paris police chief Michel Delpuech said authorities are on watch for “violent groups” infiltrating the protests, and that riot officers will protect landmarks such as the Arc de Triomphe and the presidential palace, reports Reuters.

“We need to be prepared for worst-case scenarios,” Delpuech told RTL radio

While most French people polled by Odoxa said they found Macron’s proposal “satisfactory,” 59% of those polled say they were “not convinced” by the measures.

54% of those surveyed said the Yellow Vest protests should continue.

Many of the Yellow Vests have flat-out rejected Macron’s proposals, according to European-Views.

https://southfront.org/french-police-br ... -protests/

Wouldn't get that level of public support over here. For a couple of days the media would be happy but they would soon turn and vilify the demonstrators. (fuel tax, miners strike for reference)
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Re: The French.

Postby Maddog » Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:09 pm

Fletch wrote:You look more like a white helmets member Mads! :gigglesnshit:


Is that a knock on my manly beard?

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Re: The French.

Postby calitom » Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:10 pm

author Michel Houellebecq
2002, the author was put on trial for racial hatred and later acquitted after saying that Islam was “the dumbest religion” during an interview. He has also intermittently had to rely on armed protection due to threats against his life by Islamic terrorists.

Elsewhere in his Harper’s piece, Houellebecq notes that Europe has always been in a historical struggle against Islam and that “that struggle has simply returned to the foreground.”

He also looks forward to the European Union dissolving and France once again becoming an independent country.

“It’s my belief that we in Europe have neither a common language, nor common values, nor common interests, that, in a word, Europe doesn’t exist, and that it will never constitute a people or support a possible democracy (see the etymology of the term), simply because it doesn’t want to constitute a people,” writes Houellebecq. ” In short, Europe is just a dumb idea that has gradually turned into a bad dream, from which we shall eventually wake up.”
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Re: The French.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:24 pm

French police warn the government: 'We're at breaking point'

“Police resources are not inexhaustible. We were practically at our maximum. 89 000 members of the armed forces throughout France… We can’t do any more,” he said.

He went on to warn that an untenable amount of pressure has been put on the police to manage a crisis that politicians are responsible for.

“We also want to take off our vests. Not the yellow vests, but our blue vests if this continues. That’s the message that I want to give to the highest state authorities. We are in a political crisis. It’s not up to the police force to get us out of it, it's up to politicians,” he said.
While the police “risk their lives” at work Alternative Police states that unpaid overtime and underpaid night shifts have left them suffering the same poor living conditions as the yellow vests they confront at the weekends.
“Between their responsibility to carry out their missions, maintain order and guarantee everyone’s safety and the feeling that they too are affected by the demands of the yellow vests when it comes to spending power, the police are at breaking point," they said.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20181210/french ... ssion=true
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Re: The French.

Postby calitom » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:01 am

Letter by French generals to Macron
Mister President,
You are about to sign the “Global Compact on Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration” on 10 and 11 December, which establishes a genuine right to migration. It may impose itself on our national legislation through pre-existing treaties or the principle of common responsibility set out in this pact.
It seems to us that the only sovereignty that will remain with France will consist in freely setting the way in which the objectives of the pact will have to be implemented. You can not give up this new part of the national sovereignty without a public debate whereas 80% of the French population considers that it is necessary to stop or regulate drastically the immigration. By deciding alone to sign this pact, you would add an additional reason for revolt to the anger of an already battered people. You would be guilty of a denial of democracy or treason against the nation.
In addition, the finances of our country are drained and our debt is growing. You can not take the risk of an expensive call for air migration without first showing that you will not have to resort to more taxes to meet the objectives of the pact. On the other hand, you must be able, in terms of security, to curb the consequences linked to the arrival of extra-European populations. Finally, you can not ignore that the very essence of politics is to ensure security on the outside and harmony within. However, this concord can be obtained only if it maintains a certain internal coherence of the society alone capable of allowing to want to do together, which becomes more and more problematic today.
In fact, the French state is late in coming to realize the impossibility of integrating too many people, in addition to totally different cultures, who have regrouped in the last forty years in areas that no longer submit to the laws of the Republic.
You can not decide alone to erase our civilizational landmarks and deprive us of our carnal homeland.
We therefore ask you to defer the signing of this pact and call by referendum the French to vote on this document. You are accountable to the French of your actions. Your election is not a blank.
We support the initiative of General MARTINEZ against the signature of this pact which must be adopted by the Member States of the UN at the Intergovernmental Conference of Marrakech.
General Antoine MARTINEZ
Charles MILLON – Former Minister of Defense
General Marc BERTUCCHI
General Philippe CHATENOUD
General André COUSTOU
General Roland DUBOIS
General Daniel GROSMAIRE
General Christian HOUDET
General Michel ISSAVERDENS
Admiral Patrick MARTIN
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Re: The French.

Postby Fletch » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:56 am

Not heard about that Tom, or know anything about signing any pact. I searched and found it on reddit and infowars but did find this:

Macron accused of treason by French generals for signing UN Migration Pact

General Antoine Martinez has written the letter signed by ten other generals, an admiral and colonel, and also includes former French Minister of Defense Charles Millon.

They’ve given strong warning that Macron’s signing the U.N. Global Migration Pact strips France of even more sovereignty providing an additional reason for “an already battered people” to “revolt”.

The highly decorated military co-signees assert that the beleaguered Macron is “guilty of a denial of democracy or treason against the nation” for signing the migration pact without putting it to the people.

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/12/macro ... tion-pact/

Which has a link to here:

PACTE DE MARRAKECH SUR LES MIGRATIONS
(Lettre au président de la République, à l’initiative du général Martinez)


https://www.minurne.org/billets/19275

No idea what the "U.N. Global Migration Pact" is or if the letter is genuine but interesting. Will see what else comes out about it.
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Re: The French.

Postby Cannydc » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:08 am

"No idea what the "U.N. Global Migration Pact" is"


Really ?

Knock yourself out, no doubt the NWO, MSM, Deep State, US, MI6 etc will be involved. At least in your mind.

https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/migration-compact
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Re: The French.

Postby Fletch » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:14 am

Cannydc wrote:"No idea what the "U.N. Global Migration Pact" is"


Really ?

Knock yourself out, no doubt the NWO, MSM, Deep State, US, MI6 etc will be involved. At least in your mind.

https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/migration-compact


Why would I? :dunno:

From your link:

Today, there are over 258 million migrants around the world living outside their country of birth. This figure is expected to grow for a number of reasons including population growth, increasing connectivity, trade, rising inequality, demographic imbalances and climate change

Why don't they mention the biggest reason of all, regime change around the world by western backed goons and sometimes the west itself?

That's the sort of reason I don't take notice of these charades.
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Re: The French.

Postby Cannydc » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:15 am

Objectives for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration
(1) Collect and utilize accurate and disaggregated data as a basis for evidence-based
policies
(2) Minimize the adverse drivers and structural factors that compel people to leave their
country of origin

(3) Provide accurate and timely information at all stages of migration
(4) Ensure that all migrants have proof of legal identity and adequate documentation
(5) Enhance availability and flexibility of pathways for regular migration
(6) Facilitate fair and ethical recruitment and safeguard conditions that ensure decent work
(7) Address and reduce vulnerabilities in migration
(8) Save lives and establish coordinated international efforts on missing migrants
(9) Strengthen the transnational response to smuggling of migrants
(10) Prevent, combat and eradicate trafficking in persons in the context of international
migration
(11) Manage borders in an integrated, secure and coordinated manner
(12) Strengthen certainty and predictability in migration procedures for appropriate
screening, assessment and referral
(13) Use migration detention only as a measure of last resort and work towards alternatives
(14) Enhance consular protection, assistance and cooperation throughout the migration
cycle
(15) Provide access to basic services for migrants
(16) Empower migrants and societies to realize full inclusion and social cohesion
(17) Eliminate all forms of discrimination and promote evidence-based public discourse to
shape perceptions of migration
(18) Invest in skills development and facilitate mutual recognition of skills, qualifications and
competences
(19) Create conditions for migrants and diasporas to fully contribute to sustainable
development in all countries
(20) Promote faster, safer and cheaper transfer of remittances and foster financial inclusion
of migrants
(21) Cooperate in facilitating safe and dignified return and readmission, as well as
sustainable reintegration
(22) Establish mechanisms for the portability of social security entitlements and earned
benefits
(23) Strengthen international cooperation and global partnerships for safe, orderly and
regular migration

I may be wrong, but the points highlighted surely INCREASE security and this whole document in no way reduces the sovereignty of France or elsewhere.
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Re: The French.

Postby Fletch » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:20 am

In September 2016 the General Assembly decided, through the adoption of the New York Declaration for Refugees and Migrants, to develop a global compact for safe, orderly and regular migration.

The process to develop this global compact started in April 2017. The pages in this section detail 18 months of consultation and negotiation, and provide the relevant documentation for each of the events.

On 13 July 2018 UN Member States finalized the text for the Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration (Text available in all official languages).

The Intergovernmental Conference to Adopt the Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration will be held on 10 – 11 December in Marrakech, Morocco.


https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/migration-compact

Pure neoliberalism, exploitation and using population growth in the west to fund growth. New buyers, borrowers, tax payers and cheap labour. No wonder you approve canny. :shake head:
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