Russian aggression

[Mr Bean]

Taking back the Crimea which was ceded to Ukraine in 1954, building Bridge across the entrance to the Sea of Azov and now firing on and capturing 3 Ukrainian ships, the Russians are pushing the envelope and will perhaps try more land grabs in east Ukraine.
The Russian majority in Crimea is now under threat from a lack of water because the main source of water, a large canal running from Ukraine to Crimea, has been dammed by the Ukrainians.
Depriving Russians of water is a dangerous game, Putin will not allow Russians to be deprived like this.
The shooting will start soon.

[Guest]

The last decade has seen a resurgence in Russian military power.
They pose a major threat to Europe if the Americans walk away.

[Fletch]

All is not as it seems.

INFORMATION WAR AGAINST RUSSIA. KERCH STRAIT MARITIME INCIDENT

A start of the new campaign of the information war against Russia can be observed in the European mainstream media. This campaign is similar to the previous ones, which have been carried out against Russia: the Russo-Georgian War 2008, the MH17 incident in 2014 and others.

Repeating the 2008 war approach, in 2018 EU mainstream media outlets have been ignoring facts and blamining “Russian agression”.

In 2008 when the Georgian Armed Forces opened artillery and rocket fire on South Ossetia, particularly its capital of Tskhinvali, all the European media was accusing Russia of agression against Georgia. The question remains how it was possible if Russian troops entered South Ossetia to carry out a peace-enforcement operation on November 8 evening only.

On November 25, 2018, 3 Ukrainian warships illegaly entered in Russian territorial waters carrying out hostile actions, ingoring commands of Russian coastal guards and threatening mairitme security in the Black Sea region. The Russian side repeatedly tried to stop the advance of the Ukrainian naval group peacefully, through military-diplomatic channels. However, Russian border guards were able to stop hostile actions of the Ukrainian naval group only after a brief firefight caused. European mainstream media outlets show this incident as an act of “Russian agression”.

Despite the obvious facts confirming that the November 25 incident in the Black Sea was provoked by the Ukrainian side, the European mainstream media as well as some Western diplomats are actively accusing Rusisa of agression against Ukraine.

For example, US Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations Kurt Volker demonstrated a clear example of double-think in this situation.

In the near future, it’s highly likely that this information campaign against Russia will be intensified and expanded. It should be noted that from its side, Russia once again appears to be the side, which makes excuses and attempts to explain its legal actions to the audience. Russia is the defensive side in this media conflict.

Probably, the Rusian leadership has learnt little from the previous information campaigns surrounding the country.

By 16:11 EET November 26, Russia has not released a detailed comment answering to the accusations against it and providing details into the entire chain of events surrounding the incident. The existing comments by the Russian side are limited remarks by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mariya Zakharova, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov and this very statement by the foreign ministry:

(on link) https://southfront.org/information-war- ... -incident/

Before anyone claims the official response from Russia is propaganda, could they please explain why they don't consider official statements from UK/US/Other Western (NATO) entities propaganda?

There seems to be a bit more to this incident than meets the eye according to some Ukrainian commenter's with UK and NATO involvement as well.

Also worth mentioning that (the US neocon puppet) Poroshenko is set to lose in selections very soon and that by declaring Martial Law, it allows elections to be postponed.

[LordRaven]

Good video here Felch showing Russians ramming a Ukrainian tug and a Russian Oil Tanker blocking the entrance to Azov sea so that Ukranians can't even use their own ports.

It is all kicking off...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video ... ions-video

But of course you will say it isn't a Russian ship ramming a Ukranian and it isn't a Russian Oil Tanker blocking the route under the Kerch Bridge, because that is the way you are.

[Fletch]

POROSHENKO PUSHES MARTIAL LAW. UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES ARE IN FULL COMBAT READINESS

The Ukrainain Armed Forces have been brought into a full combat readiness following a meeting of the military cabinet of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, which took place last night over the November 25 maritime incident in the Black Sea.

Poroshenko also introduced a decision to impose a matrial law across the country. The decision is yet to be approved by the Ukrainian Parliament. It will be voted during its urgent session later today.

The introduction of the martial law allows to delay the 2019 presidential election in Ukraine, which is currently set to be held on March 31, 2019. According polls, Poroshenko will highly likely lose his presidential post if the election happens now. The armed conflict and martial law can allow him to change the situation in his favor.

Such a conflict would also allow Ukraine’s “Western partners” to boost their military presence in the country and the nearby region thus further destabilizing the situation.

https://southfront.org/poroshenko-pushe ... readiness/

It has now been passed by Ukrainian Parliament.

Poroshenko's plan to impose martial law has been approved, and during an address on national television, the president said it will begin at 9 am local time on Nov. 28 and continue at least until late January. Ukrainians are expected to vote in a presidential election in March.

UKRAINE'S POROSHENKO SAYS MARTIAL LAW WILL BE FROM 9 AM NOV. 28
UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT POROSHENKO ADDRESSES NATION ON TV
UKRAINE'S POROSHENKO REITERATES MARTIAL LAW DOESN'T MEAN WAR
ELECTIONS WILL GO AHEAD ON SCHEDULE

[LordRaven]

16 hours ago - Uploaded by PressTV
Russian Federal Security Services (FSB) released the video of Russian Coast guard ships tracing Ukrainian ...

Just in case Felch is in denial

[Fletch]

Good video here Felch showing Russians ramming a Ukrainian tug and a Russian Oil Tanker blocking the entrance to Azov sea so that Ukranians can't even use their own ports.

It is all kicking off...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video ... ions-video

But of course you will say it isn't a Russian ship ramming a Ukranian and it isn't a Russian Oil Tanker blocking the route under the Kerch Bridge, because that is the way you are.

No I won't but Russia didn't suddenly decide to do this for a fun day out.

[LordRaven]

POROSHENKO PUSHES MARTIAL LAW. UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES ARE IN FULL COMBAT READINESS

The Ukrainain Armed Forces have been brought into a full combat readiness following a meeting of the military cabinet of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, which took place last night over the November 25 maritime incident in the Black Sea.

Poroshenko also introduced a decision to impose a matrial law across the country. The decision is yet to be approved by the Ukrainian Parliament. It will be voted during its urgent session later today.

The introduction of the martial law allows to delay the 2019 presidential election in Ukraine, which is currently set to be held on March 31, 2019. According polls, Poroshenko will highly likely lose his presidential post if the election happens now. The armed conflict and martial law can allow him to change the situation in his favor.

Such a conflict would also allow Ukraine’s “Western partners” to boost their military presence in the country and the nearby region thus further destabilizing the situation.

https://southfront.org/poroshenko-pushe ... readiness/

It has now been passed by Ukrainian Parliament.

Poroshenko's plan to impose martial law has been approved, and during an address on national television, the president said it will begin at 9 am local time on Nov. 28 and continue at least until late January. Ukrainians are expected to vote in a presidential election in March.

UKRAINE'S POROSHENKO SAYS MARTIAL LAW WILL BE FROM 9 AM NOV. 28
UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT POROSHENKO ADDRESSES NATION ON TV
UKRAINE'S POROSHENKO REITERATES MARTIAL LAW DOESN'T MEAN WAR
ELECTIONS WILL GO AHEAD ON SCHEDULE

Here is the RT angle...

The Ukranian ships were sailing between two Ukrainian ports: from Odessa in the Black Sea to Mariupol in the Azov Sea. The only waterway that connects these is the Kerch Strait. Kiev says it notified Moscow in advance that its navy ships would be sailing through the area.

Moscow denies that it was given any warning, forcing the Russian military to use weapons to stop the vessels. The three Ukrainian ships were then seized and towed to the Kerch port, according to the Russian Security Service (FSB).

While both Russia and Ukraine have freedom of navigation in the Kerch Strait under a 2003 treaty, there are detailed technical rules on how vessels should pass through the narrow, complex waterway. All traffic in the area is controlled by the Crimean sea port of Kerch, and every ship should contact the facility, report her route and destination, and receive permission to sail through the Strait.

As tensions escalated around the situation in the Kerch Strait, Russia called an emergency UN Security Council meeting, while Ukrainian President wants to declare martial law, pending approval by the national parliament.

https://www.retarded.com/news/444851-video-ru ... sel-kerch/

Got to love the Russians, they have purposefully built an 11KM bridge only 35M above the water to be able to block the Ukranians from using the Sea Of Azov Ukranian ports --which have seen use of said ports drop by 25% and now they go and seize and ram Ukranian vessels and say the latter violated their seas???

It reminds me of that pathetically transparent Nazi pantomime that they used as an excuse to invade Poland,

[LordRaven]

Good video here Felch showing Russians ramming a Ukrainian tug and a Russian Oil Tanker blocking the entrance to Azov sea so that Ukranians can't even use their own ports.

It is all kicking off...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video ... ions-video

But of course you will say it isn't a Russian ship ramming a Ukranian and it isn't a Russian Oil Tanker blocking the route under the Kerch Bridge, because that is the way you are.

No I won't but Russia didn't suddenly decide to do this for a fun day out.

Go on Felch, tell us what the Ukranians did, in wanting to continue to use their own ports on Ukranian sea in the Sea of Azov to deserve Military aggression, special forces seizing their vessels and a tug getting rammed?

[Fletch]

UKRAINE RELEASED INTERCEPTED RUSSIAN RADIO COMMUNICATIONS DURING THE BLACK SEA INCIDENT (ANALYSIS)

Summing up:

The radio communications released by the Ukrainian side confirm the position of the Russian side on the incident. It confirms that the encounter took place within Russian territorial waters, Ukrainian ships were not responding to requests to stop and were performing dangerous maneuvers. The Russian side was acting in response to actions of the Ukrainian naval group and was seeking to restore security in its territorial waters.

The most interesting thing is that the Ukrainian side was capable of intercepting some communications between Russian officers during the incident. Considering the facts included in the communication, it’s highly likely that the leak of this radio communication was preplanned and organized by the Russian Federal Security Service.

The video below shows a small part of the engagement between the Ukrainian naval group and Russian cosastal guards in the Black Sea on November 26:

https://southfront.org/ukraine-released ... -analysis/

Transcript on link. You can go through it yourself to see how they came to the conclusion they did in the summary.

Be interesting to see what one of the Ukrainian guys I follow says about it later today.

[LordRaven]

UKRAINE RELEASED INTERCEPTED RUSSIAN RADIO COMMUNICATIONS DURING THE BLACK SEA INCIDENT (ANALYSIS)

Summing up:

The radio communications released by the Ukrainian side confirm the position of the Russian side on the incident. It confirms that the encounter took place within Russian territorial waters, Ukrainian ships were not responding to requests to stop and were performing dangerous maneuvers. The Russian side was acting in response to actions of the Ukrainian naval group and was seeking to restore security in its territorial waters.

The most interesting thing is that the Ukrainian side was capable of intercepting some communications between Russian officers during the incident. Considering the facts included in the communication, it’s highly likely that the leak of this radio communication was preplanned and organized by the Russian Federal Security Service.

The video below shows a small part of the engagement between the Ukrainian naval group and Russian cosastal guards in the Black Sea on November 26:

https://southfront.org/ukraine-released ... -analysis/

Transcript on link. You can go through it yourself to see how they came to the conclusion they did in the summary.

Be interesting to see what one of the Ukrainian guys I follow says about it later today.

Have a look at this map and have a look at all the Ukrainian Ports on Ukranian soil.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Sea ... 36.5866144

Now ask yourself if you were Ukrainian and been sailing into the Sea of Azov for centuries to those ports how you would feel if an 11KM bridge was built over the Kerch Strait deliberately channelling into a small entrance and one that would not allow you in if you had a ship more than 35Metres in height?

Are you telling me you'd be happy with that?

The Ukranians are clearly just trying to exercise their right to continue to use historic ports and the Russians are purposefully blocking them.

Even you cannot be this thick? This is a strategy aimed at denying the Ukranians access to the Sea of Azov and it is just a territorial snatch --yet again.

[LordRaven]

Royal Navy ship buzzed by 17 'hostile' Russian jets off the coast of Crimea
The planes flew so close their electronics could have been scrambled by the British ship's radar system and caused them to crash.

https://news.sky.com/story/royal-navy-s ... a-11564248

[Fletch]

Royal Navy ship buzzed by 17 'hostile' Russian jets off the coast of Crimea
The planes flew so close their electronics could have been scrambled by the British ship's radar system and caused them to crash.

https://news.sky.com/story/royal-navy-s ... a-11564248

What were the Royal Navy doing off the coast of Crimea, sight seeing?

(caveat: It's sky news (western) reports)

[Fletch]

UKRAINE RELEASED INTERCEPTED RUSSIAN RADIO COMMUNICATIONS DURING THE BLACK SEA INCIDENT (ANALYSIS)

Summing up:

The radio communications released by the Ukrainian side confirm the position of the Russian side on the incident. It confirms that the encounter took place within Russian territorial waters, Ukrainian ships were not responding to requests to stop and were performing dangerous maneuvers. The Russian side was acting in response to actions of the Ukrainian naval group and was seeking to restore security in its territorial waters.

The most interesting thing is that the Ukrainian side was capable of intercepting some communications between Russian officers during the incident. Considering the facts included in the communication, it’s highly likely that the leak of this radio communication was preplanned and organized by the Russian Federal Security Service.

The video below shows a small part of the engagement between the Ukrainian naval group and Russian cosastal guards in the Black Sea on November 26:

https://southfront.org/ukraine-released ... -analysis/

Transcript on link. You can go through it yourself to see how they came to the conclusion they did in the summary.

Be interesting to see what one of the Ukrainian guys I follow says about it later today.

Have a look at this map and have a look at all the Ukrainian Ports on Ukranian soil.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Sea ... 36.5866144

Now ask yourself if you were Ukrainian and been sailing into the Sea of Azov for centuries to those ports how you would feel if an 11KM bridge was built over the Kerch Strait deliberately channelling into a small entrance and one that would not allow you in if you had a ship more than 35Metres in height?

Are you telling me you'd be happy with that?

The Ukranians are clearly just trying to exercise their right to continue to use historic ports and the Russians are purposefully blocking them.

Even you cannot be this thick? This is a strategy aimed at denying the Ukranians access to the Sea of Azov and it is just a territorial snatch --yet again.

You didn't read it did you.

[LordRaven]

Royal Navy ship buzzed by 17 'hostile' Russian jets off the coast of Crimea
The planes flew so close their electronics could have been scrambled by the British ship's radar system and caused them to crash.

https://news.sky.com/story/royal-navy-s ... a-11564248

What were the Royal Navy doing off the coast of Crimea, sight seeing?

(caveat: It's sky news (western) reports)

Why don't you tell us Felch?

What are the Russians doing barricading the entrance to the Sea of Azov?