How America deals with voter fraud

How America deals with voter fraud

Postby wutang » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:03 pm

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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby Wilson » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:05 pm

"Accidentally vote"?? I don't understand...
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby wutang » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:10 pm

Sadly gonna see more of this as certain states strip more and more people (especially minorities) of their rights to vote.

Voter purges are on the rise in states with a history of racial discrimination

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/20/17595024/ ... rights-act
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby wutang » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:12 pm

Wilson wrote:"Accidentally vote"?? I don't understand...



Opaque laws about whether people with criminal convictions could vote, in the case of the black woman she filled out a provisional vote form which would be subject to review.

Result: 5 years in prison (her fault for not being born white)
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby Wilson » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:14 pm

wutang wrote:Sadly gonna see more of this as certain states strip more and more people (especially minorities) of their rights to vote.

Voter purges are on the rise in states with a history of racial discrimination

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/20/17595024/ ... rights-act


Christ. :ooer:
No doubt the UK government are taking notes.
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby wutang » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:19 pm

Another tactic to deny minorities the vote is to close polling stations in their areas.

HOW THE GUTTING OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT LED TO HUNDREDS OF CLOSED POLLS

...jurisdictions once subject to federal supervision shut down, on average, almost 20 percent more polling stations per capita than jurisdictions in the rest of the country. There are now 10 percent more people per polling place in the formerly-supervised areas than in the rest of the country.

Furthermore, within 18 counties in 13 states examined at a granular level, many of the closed polls were in neighborhoods with large minority populations. This analysis is the first attempt to look nationally at poll closures since the heart of the Voting Rights Act was removed.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/kz5 ... osed-polls


History repeating itself. After the abolition of slavery racist whites did every thing they could to deny blacks the vote for fear of being outvoted, now those same states are tackling the growing demographic changes by doing every thing they could to deny blacks the vote.
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:22 pm

wutang wrote:
Wilson wrote:"Accidentally vote"?? I don't understand...



Opaque laws about whether people with criminal convictions could vote, in the case of the black woman she filled out a provisional vote form which would be subject to review.

Result: 5 years in prison (her fault for not being born white)


Did the white woman do the same thing?
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby wutang » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:25 pm

Officials Defend Plan To Close Almost All Polling Places In Majority Black Georgia County

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... b1febb04fc



Georgia plan to closes 7 of 9 polling places in a area that is 60% black.

One of the polling places closed is 96.7% Black
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby wutang » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:27 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
wutang wrote:
Wilson wrote:"Accidentally vote"?? I don't understand...



Opaque laws about whether people with criminal convictions could vote, in the case of the black woman she filled out a provisional vote form which would be subject to review.

Result: 5 years in prison (her fault for not being born white)


Did the white woman do the same thing?



She voted TWICE and admitted it
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby Cannydc » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:32 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
wutang wrote:
Wilson wrote:"Accidentally vote"?? I don't understand...



Opaque laws about whether people with criminal convictions could vote, in the case of the black woman she filled out a provisional vote form which would be subject to review.

Result: 5 years in prison (her fault for not being born white)


Did the white woman do the same thing?


It really doesn't matter when voter fraud is so comparable between individuals. 5 years jail compared to zero is pretty much incomparable.

More to the point, have the 4 stats in the OP been cherry picked as polar opposites deliberately to fit an agenda? Answer - of course they have. Were there black or hispanic vote fraudsters who didn't get jail sentences ? I bet there were. And whites who will serve time ? Very probably.
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:34 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
wutang wrote:
Wilson wrote:"Accidentally vote"?? I don't understand...



Opaque laws about whether people with criminal convictions could vote, in the case of the black woman she filled out a provisional vote form which would be subject to review.

Result: 5 years in prison (her fault for not being born white)


Did the white woman do the same thing?


It really doesn't matter when voter fraud is so comparable between individuals. 5 years jail compared to zero is pretty much incomparable.

More to the point, have the 4 stats in the OP been cherry picked as polar opposites deliberately to fit an agenda? Answer - of course they have. Were there black or hispanic vote fraudsters who didn't get jail sentences ? I bet there were. And whites who will serve time ? Very probably.


That’s kinda my point. Laws and by laws should be looked at before jumping on the Twitter outrage bandwagons.
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby wutang » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:42 pm

Cannydc wrote: Were there black or hispanic vote fraudsters who didn't get jail sentences ? I bet there were.


Cool. Can you provide some examples
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby wutang » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:44 pm

“This is voter suppression”: black seniors in Georgia ordered off of bus taking them to vote

Voting rights advocates are accusing local officials of voter intimidation after the incident.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/10/ ... uppression


Waits for an example of elderly white voters getting harassed for voting
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby Cannydc » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:55 pm

"Realises he has touched a nerve by suggesting the OP was cherry picking to match an agenda"

And realises that most sensible people understand that's what happens these days on social media.
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Re: How America deals with voter fraud

Postby wutang » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:06 pm

Waiting on those obvious cases canny

Also maybe try addressing the other things I have mentioned on this thread. Don't you think racist states openly making it hard for blacks to vote wouldn't also do things like... severely punish blacks more than whites for voter fraud.

kinda helps with the ol' prevent blacks from voting thing

The message seems a bit clear:

If you are white voter then fraud will be dismissed as a minor indiscretion, if you are black and are unsure whether you can vote then DONT as 5-8 years inside awaits you
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