Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby McAz » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:03 am

Guest wrote:
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Guest wrote:A leader at odds with his party is precariously perched.

Then he'll have to buckle under or go.

Knuckle perhaps?


Given your assertion that he is at odds with his party buckle under is more appropriate.
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby Guest » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:08 am

McAz wrote:
Guest wrote:
McAz wrote:
Guest wrote:A leader at odds with his party is precariously perched.

Then he'll have to buckle under or go.

Knuckle perhaps?


Given your assertion that he is at odds with his party buckle under is more appropriate.

Excuse my chuckle :pmsl:
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby McAz » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:24 am

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McAz wrote:
Guest wrote:
McAz wrote:
Guest wrote:A leader at odds with his party is precariously perched.

Then he'll have to buckle under or go.

Knuckle perhaps?


Given your assertion that he is at odds with his party buckle under is more appropriate.

Excuse my chuckle :pmsl:


You have my permission to chuckle under. :gigglesnshit:
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby Fletch » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:58 pm

I had a thread about this outfit and the replies were amusing given this latest revelation.

UK IS ENGAGED IN LARGE-SCALE SECRET PROPAGANDA WAR AGAINST

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=48704

I was assured that it was all legit, all above board and they are right to spread disinformatioon. Some examples:

This is not a propaganda war on Russia, nor is it reported as such.

This appears to be a perfectly credible attempt to negate Russian attempts to disrupt UK state functions, hence from the OP we see...


So that would be the military element of the " cluster of “well-informed people from the political, military, academic, journalistic and think-tank spheres,” who are to track alleged disinformation and also inform decision-makers and other interested parties about the on-goings, would it ?


This was all about the west's propaganda about Russia, as seen all over the media in the west. The same sort of propaganda you see about Assad, Syria, Iran and hezbollah.

Any sign of this discovery all over the media in the same way yet?

There will be much more to come from this propaganda outfit, they don't spend that sort of money and go to all that trouble just to diss Putin and Corbyn.

Be careful what you treat as news.
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby LordRaven » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:03 pm

Guest wrote:The Conservative government is funding a ‘monitoring group’ that’s carrying out disinformation attacks on Jeremy Corbyn and Labour. The foreign office has now admitted providing £1.96m of public money to the Institute for Statecraft’s Integrity Initiative in the 2018/19 year. Military specialists run the unit, which has posted smears about Jeremy Corbyn and his team on social media.

This UK government-funded, bogus McCarthyite "monitoring group" the Integrity Initiative repeatedly smeared Jeremy Corbyn, while it claims to "defend democracy against disinformation."

These are effectively state-sponsored attacks on Corbyn and the left.https://t.co/a5V00Myw6r pic.twitter.com/sUP3C9SJ1I

— Ben Norton (@BenjaminNorton) November 27, 2018

Anti-Labour propaganda

The organisation’s official account has tweeted the following quote from an article about Corbyn:

His open visceral anti-Westernism helped the Kremlin cause, as surely as if he had been secretly peddling Westminster tittle-tattle for money.

A tweet from the organisation also promoted the claim that:

Unlike Galloway [former MP George Galloway] Corbyn does not scream conspiracy, he implies it

Meanwhile, another tweet quoted a further article which read:

It’s time for the Corbyn left to confront its Putin problem.

As well as Corbyn and his supporters, the Integrity Initiative has promoted attacks on the Labour leader’s communications chief, Seumas Milne:

Milne is not a spy – that would be beneath him. But what he has done, wittingly or unwittingly, is work with the Kremlin agenda

The unit also retweeted a journalist who claimed:

Just as he supports the Russian bombardment of Syria, Seumas Milne supported the Russian slaughter of Afghanistan, which resulted in more than a million deaths.

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2018/ ... XN6Mje0xSE

As if we didn't know already...Just another reason to kick these corrupt bunch of scummy bastard cunts to the kerb.



How unusual :smilin:
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby LordRaven » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:05 pm

Fletch wrote:I had a thread about this outfit and the replies were amusing given this latest revelation.

UK IS ENGAGED IN LARGE-SCALE SECRET PROPAGANDA WAR AGAINST

http://thesleepingdogs.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=48704

I was assured that it was all legit, all above board and they are right to spread disinformatioon. Some examples:

This is not a propaganda war on Russia, nor is it reported as such.

This appears to be a perfectly credible attempt to negate Russian attempts to disrupt UK state functions, hence from the OP we see...


So that would be the military element of the " cluster of “well-informed people from the political, military, academic, journalistic and think-tank spheres,” who are to track alleged disinformation and also inform decision-makers and other interested parties about the on-goings, would it ?


This was all about the west's propaganda about Russia, as seen all over the media in the west. The same sort of propaganda you see about Assad, Syria, Iran and hezbollah.

Any sign of this discovery all over the media in the same way yet?

There will be much more to come from this propaganda outfit, they don't spend that sort of money and go to all that trouble just to diss Putin and Corbyn.

Be careful what you treat as news.

One thing you fail to understand is a two way street. :bored:
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby Fletch » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:14 pm

LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:I had a thread about this outfit and the replies were amusing given this latest revelation.

UK IS ENGAGED IN LARGE-SCALE SECRET PROPAGANDA WAR AGAINST

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=48704

I was assured that it was all legit, all above board and they are right to spread disinformatioon. Some examples:

This is not a propaganda war on Russia, nor is it reported as such.

This appears to be a perfectly credible attempt to negate Russian attempts to disrupt UK state functions, hence from the OP we see...


So that would be the military element of the " cluster of “well-informed people from the political, military, academic, journalistic and think-tank spheres,” who are to track alleged disinformation and also inform decision-makers and other interested parties about the on-goings, would it ?


This was all about the west's propaganda about Russia, as seen all over the media in the west. The same sort of propaganda you see about Assad, Syria, Iran and hezbollah.

Any sign of this discovery all over the media in the same way yet?

There will be much more to come from this propaganda outfit, they don't spend that sort of money and go to all that trouble just to diss Putin and Corbyn.

Be careful what you treat as news.

One thing you fail to understand is a two way street. :bored:


Ah, right. Which countries has Russia carried out regime changes in?

How many of these countries had public backing due to Russian propaganda about the country in question?

Has Corbyn set up a nefarious organisation to disseminate propaganda about May or the Tories and registered it as a Scottish charity in to the bargain?
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby Fletch » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:33 pm

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The picture above shows the head office of the Institute of Statecraft in Fife, clearly not suspect

Labour MSP Neil Findlay said:

“It would appear that we have a charity registered in Scotland and overseen by the Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator that is funded by the UK Government and is spewing out political attacks on UK politicians, the Labour Party and the Labour movement. Such clear political attacks and propaganda shouldn’t be coming from any charity. We need to know why the Foreign Office have been funding it.”


https://southfront.org/british-anti-rus ... our-party/
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby LordRaven » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:41 pm

Fletch wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:I had a thread about this outfit and the replies were amusing given this latest revelation.

UK IS ENGAGED IN LARGE-SCALE SECRET PROPAGANDA WAR AGAINST

http://thesleepingdogs.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=48704

I was assured that it was all legit, all above board and they are right to spread disinformatioon. Some examples:

This is not a propaganda war on Russia, nor is it reported as such.

This appears to be a perfectly credible attempt to negate Russian attempts to disrupt UK state functions, hence from the OP we see...


So that would be the military element of the " cluster of “well-informed people from the political, military, academic, journalistic and think-tank spheres,” who are to track alleged disinformation and also inform decision-makers and other interested parties about the on-goings, would it ?


This was all about the west's propaganda about Russia, as seen all over the media in the west. The same sort of propaganda you see about Assad, Syria, Iran and hezbollah.

Any sign of this discovery all over the media in the same way yet?

There will be much more to come from this propaganda outfit, they don't spend that sort of money and go to all that trouble just to diss Putin and Corbyn.

Be careful what you treat as news.

One thing you fail to understand is a two way street. :bored:


Ah, right. Which countries has Russia carried out regime changes in?---Answer : The Whole Of Eastern Europe, in fact all former Soviet Socialist Republics - without Googling, I am sure I could find many more if I did. :cuppaT:

How many of these countries had public backing due to Russian propaganda about the country in question? Answer : None, they all wanted out but got crushed anyway e.g. Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan etc

Has Corbyn set up a nefarious organisation to disseminate propaganda about May or the Tories and registered it as a Scottish charity in to the bargain? Answer : He doesn't need to, they have completely fucked things up rather well themselves.


History is clearly a weak point of yours. :cuppaT:
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby Fletch » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:25 pm

So that would be the military element of the " cluster of “well-informed people from the political, military, academic, journalistic and think-tank spheres,” who are to track alleged disinformation and also inform decision-makers and other interested parties about the on-goings, would it ?


Greetings. We are Anonymous.

We have obtained a large number of documents relating to the activities of the ‘Integrity Initiative’ project that was launched back in the fall of 2015 and funded by the British government. The declared goal of the project is to counteract Russian propaganda and the hybrid warfare of Moscow. Hiding behind benevolent intentions, Britain has in fact created a large-scale information secret service in Europe, the United States and Canada, which consists of representatives of political, military, academic and journalistic communities with the think tank in London at the head of it.

As part of the project Britain has time and again intervened into domestic affairs of independent European states. A most demonstrative example is operation ‘Moncloa’ in Spain. Britain set to prevent Pedro Baños from appointment to the post of Director of Spain’s Department of Homeland Security. It took the Spanish cluster of the Integrity Initiative only a few hours to accomplish the task.

For now, Britain is capable of conducting such operations in the following states:

Spain https://www.scribd.com/document/392195775/Spain-Cluster

France https://www.scribd.com/document/3921954 ... ce-Cluster

Germany https://www.scribd.com/document/3921954 ... ny-Cluster

Italy https://www.scribd.com/document/392195660/Italy-Cluster

Greece https://www.scribd.com/document/3921955 ... ce-Cluster

The Netherlands https://www.scribd.com/document/3921957 ... ds-Cluster

Lithuania https://www.scribd.com/document/3921951 ... cs-Cluster

Norway https://www.scribd.com/document/3921957 ... c-Clusters

Serbia and Montenegro https://www.scribd.com/document/3921952 ... rn-Cluster

London’s near-term plans to create similar clusters include Latvia, Estonia, Portugal, Sweden, Belgium, Canada, Armenia, Ukraine, Moldova, Malta, Czechia, countries of the Middle East and North Africa, Poland, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Georgia, Hungary, Cyprus, Austria, Switzerland, Turkey, Finland, Iceland, Denmark, and the USA.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3921953 ... ndup-Jul18

All the work is done under absolute secrecy via concealed contacts in British embassies, which gives rise to more suspicion that Britain uses plausible excuse to create a global system of information influence and political interference into affairs of other countries.

https://www.cyberguerrilla.org/blog/ope ... ainst-all/

Just a bunch of jolly decent chaps monitoring things, right?...
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby LordRaven » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:30 pm

Fletch wrote:
So that would be the military element of the " cluster of “well-informed people from the political, military, academic, journalistic and think-tank spheres,” who are to track alleged disinformation and also inform decision-makers and other interested parties about the on-goings, would it ?


Greetings. We are Anonymous.

We have obtained a large number of documents relating to the activities of the ‘Integrity Initiative’ project that was launched back in the fall of 2015 and funded by the British government. The declared goal of the project is to counteract Russian propaganda and the hybrid warfare of Moscow. Hiding behind benevolent intentions, Britain has in fact created a large-scale information secret service in Europe, the United States and Canada, which consists of representatives of political, military, academic and journalistic communities with the think tank in London at the head of it.

As part of the project Britain has time and again intervened into domestic affairs of independent European states. A most demonstrative example is operation ‘Moncloa’ in Spain. Britain set to prevent Pedro Baños from appointment to the post of Director of Spain’s Department of Homeland Security. It took the Spanish cluster of the Integrity Initiative only a few hours to accomplish the task.

For now, Britain is capable of conducting such operations in the following states:

Spain https://www.scribd.com/document/392195775/Spain-Cluster

France https://www.scribd.com/document/3921954 ... ce-Cluster

Germany https://www.scribd.com/document/3921954 ... ny-Cluster

Italy https://www.scribd.com/document/392195660/Italy-Cluster

Greece https://www.scribd.com/document/3921955 ... ce-Cluster

The Netherlands https://www.scribd.com/document/3921957 ... ds-Cluster

Lithuania https://www.scribd.com/document/3921951 ... cs-Cluster

Norway https://www.scribd.com/document/3921957 ... c-Clusters

Serbia and Montenegro https://www.scribd.com/document/3921952 ... rn-Cluster

London’s near-term plans to create similar clusters include Latvia, Estonia, Portugal, Sweden, Belgium, Canada, Armenia, Ukraine, Moldova, Malta, Czechia, countries of the Middle East and North Africa, Poland, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Georgia, Hungary, Cyprus, Austria, Switzerland, Turkey, Finland, Iceland, Denmark, and the USA.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3921953 ... ndup-Jul18

All the work is done under absolute secrecy via concealed contacts in British embassies, which gives rise to more suspicion that Britain uses plausible excuse to create a global system of information influence and political interference into affairs of other countries.

https://www.cyberguerrilla.org/blog/ope ... ainst-all/

Just a bunch of jolly decent chaps monitoring things, right?...


Never!!!!???? :awesome:

Welcome to the world of Global Strategy.

Russia has played it even more so, especially since the end of WW2 when it really did think itself in with a chance of global domination :thumbsup:
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby Fletch » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:41 pm

LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:
So that would be the military element of the " cluster of “well-informed people from the political, military, academic, journalistic and think-tank spheres,” who are to track alleged disinformation and also inform decision-makers and other interested parties about the on-goings, would it ?


Greetings. We are Anonymous.

We have obtained a large number of documents relating to the activities of the ‘Integrity Initiative’ project that was launched back in the fall of 2015 and funded by the British government. The declared goal of the project is to counteract Russian propaganda and the hybrid warfare of Moscow. Hiding behind benevolent intentions, Britain has in fact created a large-scale information secret service in Europe, the United States and Canada, which consists of representatives of political, military, academic and journalistic communities with the think tank in London at the head of it.

As part of the project Britain has time and again intervened into domestic affairs of independent European states. A most demonstrative example is operation ‘Moncloa’ in Spain. Britain set to prevent Pedro Baños from appointment to the post of Director of Spain’s Department of Homeland Security. It took the Spanish cluster of the Integrity Initiative only a few hours to accomplish the task.

For now, Britain is capable of conducting such operations in the following states:

Spain https://www.scribd.com/document/392195775/Spain-Cluster

France https://www.scribd.com/document/3921954 ... ce-Cluster

Germany https://www.scribd.com/document/3921954 ... ny-Cluster

Italy https://www.scribd.com/document/392195660/Italy-Cluster

Greece https://www.scribd.com/document/3921955 ... ce-Cluster

The Netherlands https://www.scribd.com/document/3921957 ... ds-Cluster

Lithuania https://www.scribd.com/document/3921951 ... cs-Cluster

Norway https://www.scribd.com/document/3921957 ... c-Clusters

Serbia and Montenegro https://www.scribd.com/document/3921952 ... rn-Cluster

London’s near-term plans to create similar clusters include Latvia, Estonia, Portugal, Sweden, Belgium, Canada, Armenia, Ukraine, Moldova, Malta, Czechia, countries of the Middle East and North Africa, Poland, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Georgia, Hungary, Cyprus, Austria, Switzerland, Turkey, Finland, Iceland, Denmark, and the USA.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3921953 ... ndup-Jul18

All the work is done under absolute secrecy via concealed contacts in British embassies, which gives rise to more suspicion that Britain uses plausible excuse to create a global system of information influence and political interference into affairs of other countries.

https://www.cyberguerrilla.org/blog/ope ... ainst-all/

Just a bunch of jolly decent chaps monitoring things, right?...


Never!!!!???? :awesome:

Welcome to the world of Global Strategy.

Russia has played it even more so, especially since the end of WW2 when it really did think itself in with a chance of global domination :thumbsup:


You know this because the media have told you this. :thud:
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby LordRaven » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:43 pm

Fletch wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:
So that would be the military element of the " cluster of “well-informed people from the political, military, academic, journalistic and think-tank spheres,” who are to track alleged disinformation and also inform decision-makers and other interested parties about the on-goings, would it ?


Greetings. We are Anonymous.

We have obtained a large number of documents relating to the activities of the ‘Integrity Initiative’ project that was launched back in the fall of 2015 and funded by the British government. The declared goal of the project is to counteract Russian propaganda and the hybrid warfare of Moscow. Hiding behind benevolent intentions, Britain has in fact created a large-scale information secret service in Europe, the United States and Canada, which consists of representatives of political, military, academic and journalistic communities with the think tank in London at the head of it.

As part of the project Britain has time and again intervened into domestic affairs of independent European states. A most demonstrative example is operation ‘Moncloa’ in Spain. Britain set to prevent Pedro Baños from appointment to the post of Director of Spain’s Department of Homeland Security. It took the Spanish cluster of the Integrity Initiative only a few hours to accomplish the task.

For now, Britain is capable of conducting such operations in the following states:

Spain https://www.scribd.com/document/392195775/Spain-Cluster

France https://www.scribd.com/document/3921954 ... ce-Cluster

Germany https://www.scribd.com/document/3921954 ... ny-Cluster

Italy https://www.scribd.com/document/392195660/Italy-Cluster

Greece https://www.scribd.com/document/3921955 ... ce-Cluster

The Netherlands https://www.scribd.com/document/3921957 ... ds-Cluster

Lithuania https://www.scribd.com/document/3921951 ... cs-Cluster

Norway https://www.scribd.com/document/3921957 ... c-Clusters

Serbia and Montenegro https://www.scribd.com/document/3921952 ... rn-Cluster

London’s near-term plans to create similar clusters include Latvia, Estonia, Portugal, Sweden, Belgium, Canada, Armenia, Ukraine, Moldova, Malta, Czechia, countries of the Middle East and North Africa, Poland, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Georgia, Hungary, Cyprus, Austria, Switzerland, Turkey, Finland, Iceland, Denmark, and the USA.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3921953 ... ndup-Jul18

All the work is done under absolute secrecy via concealed contacts in British embassies, which gives rise to more suspicion that Britain uses plausible excuse to create a global system of information influence and political interference into affairs of other countries.

https://www.cyberguerrilla.org/blog/ope ... ainst-all/

Just a bunch of jolly decent chaps monitoring things, right?...


Never!!!!???? :awesome:

Welcome to the world of Global Strategy.

Russia has played it even more so, especially since the end of WW2 when it really did think itself in with a chance of global domination :thumbsup:


You know this because the media have told you this. :thud:

No not at all, Fletch old bean I have loved reading up on all the battles in Military history.
Geopolitics go hand in hand with wars.
GTH :thumbsup:
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby Cannydc » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:47 pm

"Which countries has Russia carried out regime changes in?"

Oh at last - an easy question.

Let's try Poland........Yugoslavia.......Romania.......Hungary (remember the tanks rolling in, in 1956 ?).....Afghanistan.....Lithuania......Estonia.....Latvia

Eight so far, that was just a quick scan through my memory.
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Re: Tories fund Corbyn smear group

Postby Fletch » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:52 pm

Cannydc wrote:"Which countries has Russia carried out regime changes in?"

Oh at last - an easy question.

Let's try Poland........Yugoslavia.......Romania.......Hungary (remember the tanks rolling in, in 1956 ?).....Afghanistan.....Lithuania......Estonia.....Latvia

Eight so far, that was just a quick scan through my memory.


Like Raven, you live in the past.

This is 2018, this is about regime changes and propaganda in the 21st century.

Nothing to say about your earlier assertions that this was all above board and innocuous?
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