Tory Leadership Battle

[McAz]

Cameron ran when the going got tough - it's hardly fair to compare May, who if nothing else has stayed the course, with Cameron.

Cameron's mistake was to say he'd stay on if leave won. No PM could have stayed on after batting for the losing side in a referendum they enabled.

Why ever not - they are there to lead, not to flee like a cur when things don't go their way?

It's just not politically tenable. He spent months telling the nation that leaving would be a disaster, and then the disaster happened - and it only happened because of him. Leading the negotiations in that position would have been impossible and he knew it.

May thought it would be a disaster too - but she at least had the courage (or ambition if you're a cynic) to step up and lead. Whatever, if you insist on employing former PMs as a stick to beat May with at least choose someone with a modicum of honour.

[Jon]

A leave voter should have got the job, but Leadsom and Fox were bad and Gove was hated after knifing Boris. May got away with it because she'd been smart enough to keep a low profile during the referendum campaign. I honestly think Cameron did the right thing in resigning.

[McAz]

A leave voter should have got the job, but Leadsom and Fox were bad and Gove was hated after knifing Boris. May got away with it because she'd been smart enough to keep a low profile during the referendum campaign. I honestly think Cameron did the right thing in resigning.

But that might have meant actually leaving - and the ruling elite were never going to allow that if at all possible.

[Jon]

Not sure if you're being mischievous there McAz, but either way, you might have a point.

[McAz]

Not sure if you're being mischievous there McAz, but either way, you might have a point.

I am being perfectly serious - in politics, as in most things, you follow the money.

[Guest]

Jacob of the Lower Fourth & co. being ripped to pieces here.


Finally, some good news: the ERG has been aggressively made love to by an ass
Marina Hyde.

Theresa lives to die another day. Now can the mad bastards of her party come out of their ‘kill zones’ for a Christmas truce?

Of all the mad bastards out there, there are none madder than the Conservative party. The Tories’ self-indulgent bastardry is now at such thermonuclear levels that it could surely cause a rip in the very fabric of time and space itself, opening a portal into another dimension from which the dark lord Cthulhu may emerge to lead them. But can Cthulhu get a bold, creative and bespoke deal that takes back control of our borders, our money and our … I’m sorry, I can’t any more. Maybe tomorrow. The one thing I would say about the dark lord is that he’d probably realise taking back control of the Conservative party would be an effing start.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... may-brexit

[Lady Murasaki]

A leave voter should have got the job, but Leadsom and Fox were bad and Gove was hated after knifing Boris. May got away with it because she'd been smart enough to keep a low profile during the referendum campaign. I honestly think Cameron did the right thing in resigning.

Did he resign or was he pushed? After that pig thing the knives were clearly out for him.

[Stooo]

Cameron ran when the going got tough - it's hardly fair to compare May, who if nothing else has stayed the course, with Cameron.

Cameron's mistake was to say he'd stay on if leave won. No PM could have stayed on after batting for the losing side in a referendum they enabled.

Why ever not - they are there to lead, not to flee like a cur when things don't go their way?

It's just not politically tenable. He spent months telling the nation that leaving would be a disaster, and then the disaster happened - and it only happened because of him. Leading the negotiations in that position would have been impossible and he knew it.

May thought it would be a disaster too - but she at least had the courage (or ambition if you're a cynic) to step up and lead. Whatever, if you insist on employing former PMs as a stick to beat May with at least choose someone with a modicum of honour.

May, honour?

[Guest]

Off you fuck Tory cunts!

[Jon]

^ https://twitter.com/evolvepolitics/stat ... 6478542848

CORRECTION: Our earlier article was slightly inaccurate - no agreement is *officially in place* as yet but it is understood that Labour is planning a no confidence motion for Monday.

[McAz]

May thought it would be a disaster too - but she at least had the courage (or ambition if you're a cynic) to step up and lead. Whatever, if you insist on employing former PMs as a stick to beat May with at least choose someone with a modicum of honour.

May, honour?

As much honour as Nick Clegg.

[Stooo]

May thought it would be a disaster too - but she at least had the courage (or ambition if you're a cynic) to step up and lead. Whatever, if you insist on employing former PMs as a stick to beat May with at least choose someone with a modicum of honour.

May, honour?

As much honour as Nick Clegg.

Complete opposite, country before party.

[Lady Murasaki]

May thought it would be a disaster too - but she at least had the courage (or ambition if you're a cynic) to step up and lead. Whatever, if you insist on employing former PMs as a stick to beat May with at least choose someone with a modicum of honour.

May, honour?

As much honour as Nick Clegg.

Complete opposite, country before party.

Isn’t that what Mays doing?

[McAz]

May thought it would be a disaster too - but she at least had the courage (or ambition if you're a cynic) to step up and lead. Whatever, if you insist on employing former PMs as a stick to beat May with at least choose someone with a modicum of honour.

May, honour?

As much honour as Nick Clegg.

Complete opposite, country before party.

Utter tripe and based on an alternative time line.

[Stooo]

May thought it would be a disaster too - but she at least had the courage (or ambition if you're a cynic) to step up and lead. Whatever, if you insist on employing former PMs as a stick to beat May with at least choose someone with a modicum of honour.

May, honour?

As much honour as Nick Clegg.

Complete opposite, country before party.

Isn’t that what Mays doing?

I'm not sure.