Channel migrants declared major incident

[McAz]

Keep the trolling to the arms Mac.

Of course people enter the country illegally if they haven’t been through the proper channels. Not everyone who enters is seeking refuge.

Sadly, you are turning out to be as daft as Bongo and Firestarter...

...that fact remains that people seeking refuge in this country are not criminal by doing so, no matter how they enter the country.

HTH.

[MungoBrush]

A clue for you.

You are not guilty of a crime until found guilty in a court of law.

Migrants commit no crime by entering the UK - very different to those who facilitate entry, who are committing crimes. Migrants have to be properly assessed before any action can be taken.

Of course, you were asked yesterday to show a shred of evidence that those turning up on Kent beaches have been charged with the crime of being an illegal immigrant. That challenge stands - after all, where there's a crime someone is surely doing the time?

I eagerly await your evidence, but would prefer that you keep the silly diversions to yourself.

Once again - this is completely wrong
How many times do you have to be told?
How much evidence do you need?

For example:
"It is a criminal offence (under Section 24 Immigration Act 1971) to overstay your period of authorised stay in the UK"
http://www.aboutimmigration.co.uk/uk-im ... ayers.html

There's loads more of course for all kinds of illegals in the UK, whether it be tourists getting paid employment; students overstaying their visas; persons entering the country without visas etc etc

These are all criminal acts

Moreover:

"It is also an offence (under Section 25 Immigration Act 1971) to do anything to facilitate another person's illegal entry, transit or stay in the UK. This includes assisting an asylum seeker if done knowingly and for your own gain"

I don't know how much longer you will go on posting your crap
But it is all crap

All irrelevant to the fact that people seeking refuge in this country are not criminal by doing so, no matter how they enter the country.

But good to see you've spent the entire day researching in the hope you could redeem your folly.

My goodness
You can't get anything right can you?

Still pissing in the wind I see?
Well, guess what, the wind has changed and you've got blow-back all over your face

FYI, in the UK, you become a "criminal" the minute you commit a criminal offence
Once you have been found guilty in a court or other legal tribunal etc, you become a "convicted criminal" and then you have a "criminal record"

So when someone enters the UK illegally or overstays a legal visa etc - at that very moment - they become a criminal.
If a person lands on a UK beach without a valid visa or other protective document - they immediately become a criminal.

Suck it up!

[Lady Murasaki]

Keep the trolling to the arms Mac.

Of course people enter the country illegally if they haven’t been through the proper channels. Not everyone who enters is seeking refuge.

Sadly, you are turning out to be as daft as Bongo and Firestarter...

...that fact remains that people seeking refuge in this country are not criminal by doing so, no matter how they enter the country.

HTH.

You don’t know they’re seeking refuge until they go through the process though. Assuming everyone who enters is an asylum seeker is either extremely naive or you trolling.

[McAz]

A clue for you.

You are not guilty of a crime until found guilty in a court of law.

Migrants commit no crime by entering the UK - very different to those who facilitate entry, who are committing crimes. Migrants have to be properly assessed before any action can be taken.

Of course, you were asked yesterday to show a shred of evidence that those turning up on Kent beaches have been charged with the crime of being an illegal immigrant. That challenge stands - after all, where there's a crime someone is surely doing the time?

I eagerly await your evidence, but would prefer that you keep the silly diversions to yourself.

Once again - this is completely wrong
How many times do you have to be told?
How much evidence do you need?

For example:
"It is a criminal offence (under Section 24 Immigration Act 1971) to overstay your period of authorised stay in the UK"
http://www.aboutimmigration.co.uk/uk-im ... ayers.html

There's loads more of course for all kinds of illegals in the UK, whether it be tourists getting paid employment; students overstaying their visas; persons entering the country without visas etc etc

These are all criminal acts

Moreover:

"It is also an offence (under Section 25 Immigration Act 1971) to do anything to facilitate another person's illegal entry, transit or stay in the UK. This includes assisting an asylum seeker if done knowingly and for your own gain"

I don't know how much longer you will go on posting your crap
But it is all crap

All irrelevant to the fact that people seeking refuge in this country are not criminal by doing so, no matter how they enter the country.

But good to see you've spent the entire day researching in the hope you could redeem your folly.

My goodness
You can't get anything right can you?

Still pissing in the wind I see?
Well, guess what, the wind has changed and you've got blow-back all over your face

FYI, in the UK, you become a "criminal" the minute you commit a criminal offence
Once you have been found guilty in a court or other legal tribunal etc, you become a "convicted criminal" and then you have a "criminal record"

So when someone enters the UK illegally or overstays a legal visa etc - at that very moment - they become a criminal.
If a person lands on a UK beach without a valid visa or other protective document - they immediately become a criminal.

Suck it up!

Not relevant to the point, Dungo, and simply re-stating your bollox is no more credible that your repeated claim that you did not post anti-Semitic hate.

...the fact remains that people seeking refuge in this country are not criminal by doing so, no matter how they enter the country.

[McAz]

Keep the trolling to the arms Mac.

Of course people enter the country illegally if they haven’t been through the proper channels. Not everyone who enters is seeking refuge.

Sadly, you are turning out to be as daft as Bongo and Firestarter...

...that fact remains that people seeking refuge in this country are not criminal by doing so, no matter how they enter the country.

HTH.

You don’t know they’re seeking refuge until they go through the process though. Assuming everyone who enters is an asylum seeker is either extremely naive or you trolling.

Exactly - and therefore people seeking refuge in this country are not criminal by doing so, no matter how they enter the country. It is for the host country to determine whether their claims are in fact valid - but even if their claims are rejected they are not criminals for exercising their right to seek safety.

[MungoBrush]

Not relevant to the point, Dungo, and simply re-stating your bollox is no more credible that your repeated claim that you did not post anti-Semitic hate.

...the fact remains that people seeking refuge in this country are not criminal by doing so, no matter how they enter the country.

So you think that quoting government web sites and the laws of this country is bollox do you?

[McAz]

Not relevant to the point, Dungo, and simply re-stating your bollox is no more credible that your repeated claim that you did not post anti-Semitic hate.

...the fact remains that people seeking refuge in this country are not criminal by doing so, no matter how they enter the country.

So you think that quoting government web sites and the laws of this country is bollox do you?

Not if you quoted sites relevant to the point...

...but you haven't because the fact remains that people seeking refuge in this country are not criminal by doing so, no matter how they enter the country.

Keep trying, Fungle.

[Cannydc]

Keep the trolling to the arms Mac.

Of course people enter the country illegally if they haven’t been through the proper channels. Not everyone who enters is seeking refuge.

Sadly, you are turning out to be as daft as Bongo and Firestarter...

...that fact remains that people seeking refuge in this country are not criminal by doing so, no matter how they enter the country.

HTH.

You don’t know they’re seeking refuge until they go through the process though. Assuming everyone who enters is an asylum seeker is either extremely naive or you trolling.

Absolutely correct, Lady M.

Hence it is incumbent upon the immigration authorities to ascertain without delay why they are here, and what their plans are regarding asylum or other applications. Those procedures are laid down under international treaty, and DO NOT (Bungle) criminalise the migrant.

[MungoBrush]

Keep the trolling to the arms Mac.

Of course people enter the country illegally if they haven’t been through the proper channels. Not everyone who enters is seeking refuge.

Sadly, you are turning out to be as daft as Bongo and Firestarter...

...that fact remains that people seeking refuge in this country are not criminal by doing so, no matter how they enter the country.

HTH.

You don’t know they’re seeking refuge until they go through the process though. Assuming everyone who enters is an asylum seeker is either extremely naive or you trolling.

Absolutely correct, Lady M.

Hence it is incumbent upon the immigration authorities to ascertain without delay why they are here, and what their plans are regarding asylum or other applications. Those procedures are laid down under international treaty, and DO NOT (Bungle) criminalise the migrant.

So, Lady M, you have a choice
You can either accept the laws of the UK - as set down in official government web sites
Or you can believe the word of a ratbag internet poster who racially abused another poster's wife

The choice is yours.

[McAz]

Alternatively, you can accept the desperate bullshit of a proven racist who posted this anti-Semitic filth:

There are certain groups of people who migrate here who like our way of like and want to become British. They make an effort to fit in and aren’t trying to change our society

There are other groups who come here who clearly don’t like the way things are
They don’t like our food so they want us all to change to their ways
They don’t like our schools so they start their ow
They don’t like our clothes so the wear other stuff
They don’t like our laws so they try to change them

Or international law, accepted by the UK, and enshrined in Article 14(2) of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights whixh states, "Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution".

To my knowledge, no human rights lawyer, aid agency, or border protection police have consulted Mongo on the matter.

[Cannydc]

Still patiently waiting for the example of a migrant being taken from the Kent beaches and being charged charged with being an 'illegal immigrant'.

[Red Okktober]

You're going to have a long wait canny, as illegal immigrants don't get charged for being an 'illegal immigrant' - ( ) they get charged for breaking immigration laws. 'Illegal immigrant' ' is an umbrella term for those who break such laws.

Click on the PDF file in the following link for the Crown Prosecution Service, for a list of the most commonly prosecuted immigration crimes, and the maximum sentences handed out for each one.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/publication/immi ... nces-annex

Why do you have so much love for criminals?

[McAz]

STOP PRESS: Immigration Latest!

EU net migration was 74,000 in the year to the end of June 2018, while non-EU net migration was 248,000.

The ONS said more Asian citizens had been moving to the UK for work.

The data also showed non-EU net migration was the highest since 2004.

Shucks!

[MungoBrush]

STOP PRESS: Immigration Latest!

EU net migration was 74,000 in the year to the end of June 2018, while non-EU net migration was 248,000.

The ONS said more Asian citizens had been moving to the UK for work.

The data also showed non-EU net migration was the highest since 2004.

Shucks!

I think you are in the wrong thread
This thread is about illegal immigration.

[McAz]

STOP PRESS: Immigration Latest!

EU net migration was 74,000 in the year to the end of June 2018, while non-EU net migration was 248,000.

The ONS said more Asian citizens had been moving to the UK for work.

The data also showed non-EU net migration was the highest since 2004.

Shucks!

I think you are in the wrong thread
This thread is about illegal immigration.

I thought you and your racist chums would like to know - always happy to help.