Channel migrants declared major incident

Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby MungoBrush » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:08 pm

McAz wrote:They are not criminals for doing that, as Canny and I have shown.


You need to write to the Minister for Immigration and tell her that her web sites are all wrong
That all her civil servants are publishing false information
That her immigration lawyers don't know the law

You should set them straight

Let us know how you get on.
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby McAz » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:11 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
McAz wrote:They are not criminals for doing that, as Canny and I have shown.


You need to write to the Minister for Immigration and tell her that her web sites are all wrong
That all her civil servants are publishing false information
That her immigration lawyers don't know the law

You should set them straight

Let us know how you get on.


No I don't - they don't take issue with Article 14.

You get limper as the day goes on, Dongo. :shake head:
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby Guest » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:22 pm

McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
McAz wrote:They are not criminals for doing that, as Canny and I have shown.


You need to write to the Minister for Immigration and tell her that her web sites are all wrong
That all her civil servants are publishing false information
That her immigration lawyers don't know the law

You should set them straight

Let us know how you get on.


No I don't - they don't take issue with Article 14.

You get limper as the day goes on, Dongo. :shake head:

Do you know why asylum seekers get told, on official government forms, that they will be housed and given more money per week per person in their household than our own job seekers whilst their claims are being processed plus they will be given free medical care and prescriptions, no matter what medical conditions they have, when our own homeless people are denied all of the above?
Just asking.
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby Lady Murasaki » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:30 pm

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Having a mind of your own means supporting facts not emotional prejudices. In respect of this point the facts are that the migrants from France are not criminals simply because they seek to enter the country.


No they aren’t but they are entering illegally. Ie. not by legal methods.
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby McAz » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:32 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
McAz wrote:
Having a mind of your own means supporting facts not emotional prejudices. In respect of this point the facts are that the migrants from France are not criminals simply because they seek to enter the country.


No they aren’t but they are entering illegally. Ie. not by legal methods.


Incorrect. Please read the thread which has already addressed this point.
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby McAz » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:36 pm

Guest wrote:Do you know why asylum seekers get told, on official government forms, that they will be housed and given more money per week per person in their household than our own job seekers whilst their claims are being processed plus they will be given free medical care and prescriptions, no matter what medical conditions they have, when our own homeless people are denied all of the above?
Just asking.


Please provide the government forms which state this and I will try to find out for you.
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby Guest » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:42 pm

Guest wrote:
McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
McAz wrote:They are not criminals for doing that, as Canny and I have shown.


You need to write to the Minister for Immigration and tell her that her web sites are all wrong
That all her civil servants are publishing false information
That her immigration lawyers don't know the law

You should set them straight

Let us know how you get on.


No I don't - they don't take issue with Article 14.

You get limper as the day goes on, Dongo. :shake head:

Do you know why asylum seekers get told, on official government forms, that they will be housed and given more money per week per person in their household than our own job seekers whilst their claims are being processed plus they will be given free medical care and prescriptions, no matter what medical conditions they have, when our own homeless people are denied all of the above?
Just asking.

Too difficult a question for you McAz? You ask for forms when you have been telling us all that these people are doing nothing wrong? You have not read up on this subject have you? So why pretend you’re an expert in such matters.
And why do they insist on risking the channel when they can claim asylum in the EU, which they are quite entitled to?
Read up and learn your subject matter. The forms are on the government website, google them.
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby Guest » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:44 pm

McAz wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
McAz wrote:
Having a mind of your own means supporting facts not emotional prejudices. In respect of this point the facts are that the migrants from France are not criminals simply because they seek to enter the country.


No they aren’t but they are entering illegally. Ie. not by legal methods.


Incorrect. Please read the thread which has already addressed this point.

Why does the government call them illegal immigrants McAz?
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby Lady Murasaki » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:45 pm

McAz wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
McAz wrote:
Having a mind of your own means supporting facts not emotional prejudices. In respect of this point the facts are that the migrants from France are not criminals simply because they seek to enter the country.


No they aren’t but they are entering illegally. Ie. not by legal methods.


Incorrect. Please read the thread which has already addressed this point.


:gigglesnshit:
So, why do we have border control at all?
Why don’t countries just get rid of passport control offices and just an immigration office for newbies to attend when they feel like it?
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby McAz » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:46 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
McAz wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
McAz wrote:
Having a mind of your own means supporting facts not emotional prejudices. In respect of this point the facts are that the migrants from France are not criminals simply because they seek to enter the country.


No they aren’t but they are entering illegally. Ie. not by legal methods.


Incorrect. Please read the thread which has already addressed this point.


:gigglesnshit:
So, why do we have border control at all?
Why don’t countries just get rid of passport control offices and just an immigration office for newbies to attend when they feel like it?


They have in most of Europe - what's your objection?
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby Lady Murasaki » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:51 pm

Objection to what? Illegal entry?

Off to make dinner...laters!
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby McAz » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:53 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:Objection to what? Illegal entry?

What's your objection to no border controls?

As you well know. :roll:
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby Cannydc » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:13 pm

Guest wrote:
McAz wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
McAz wrote:
Having a mind of your own means supporting facts not emotional prejudices. In respect of this point the facts are that the migrants from France are not criminals simply because they seek to enter the country.


No they aren’t but they are entering illegally. Ie. not by legal methods.


Incorrect. Please read the thread which has already addressed this point.

Why does the government call them illegal immigrants McAz?


Are you kidding ?

Even after stuff like Windrush, you need to ask why this government stokes a climate of fear and hatred of immigrants ?

Try reading a bit more.

However, to clarify. Immigrants who have overstayed visas, or have simply arrived here and disappeared underground without contacting authorities to place on record their reasons for being here can, and are termed illegal immigrants. Those washing up on Kent beaches, who are picked up and processed by immigration authorities ARE NOT illegal immigrants. They may later prove to be unsuccessful in their claims for asylum in which case they should be detained and removed asap - but even then at no time are they charged with any offence.
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby McAz » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:27 pm

This may be the moment to call time on this, Canny - we may be unwittingly enabling a trollfest by haters and racists.

Without success the Braniac Brothers have had days and pages to debunk the facts we have presented and will no doubt continue their smears and deflections. I'm content to leave them to it.
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Re: Channel migrants declared major incident

Postby MungoBrush » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:47 pm

McAz wrote:This may be the moment to call time on this, Canny - we may be unwittingly enabling a trollfest by haters and racists.

Without success the Braniac Brothers have had days and pages to debunk the facts we have presented and will no doubt continue their smears and deflections. I'm content to leave them to it.


Yes you should have quit pages ago when it became obvious to all that you were so wrong on this.
But instead you just kept on digging - deeper and deeper and deeper ...........
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