Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Fletch » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:01 pm

Buzz Aldrin wrote:Boil in the bag head Fletch believes in anything that is untrue.


It's interesting that news, with facts and backed up, that put the UK or west in general in a bad light are labelled as being untrue by some. The very same people will quote stories in the msm from 'unnamed sources', 'a spokesman said'. 'it is understood that' or sometimes just blatantly lie yet this is meant to be 'facts' according to them.

The 'Tory runs a smear campaign' thread is eerily devoid of these people, as is the Middle East news thread yet claims of CT and fake news abound in other threads. I suppose it's easier to divert and troll in other threads than have to comment on threads with links and documents to back up what is being said.
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Maddog » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:05 pm

Fletch wrote:
Buzz Aldrin wrote:Boil in the bag head Fletch believes in anything that is untrue.


It's interesting that news, with facts and backed up, that put the UK or west in general in a bad light are labelled as being untrue by some. The very same people will quote stories in the msm from 'unnamed sources', 'a spokesman said'. 'it is understood that' or sometimes just blatantly lie yet this is meant to be 'facts' according to them.

The 'Tory runs a smear campaign' thread is eerily devoid of these people, as is the Middle East news thread yet claims of CT and fake news abound in other threads. I suppose it's easier to divert and troll in other threads than have to comment on threads with links and documents to back up what is being said.




"Furthermore, his research into conspiracy theories has given him a sense that he is the holder of privileged knowledge."
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Fletch » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:13 pm

Maddog wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Buzz Aldrin wrote:Boil in the bag head Fletch believes in anything that is untrue.


It's interesting that news, with facts and backed up, that put the UK or west in general in a bad light are labelled as being untrue by some. The very same people will quote stories in the msm from 'unnamed sources', 'a spokesman said'. 'it is understood that' or sometimes just blatantly lie yet this is meant to be 'facts' according to them.

The 'Tory runs a smear campaign' thread is eerily devoid of these people, as is the Middle East news thread yet claims of CT and fake news abound in other threads. I suppose it's easier to divert and troll in other threads than have to comment on threads with links and documents to back up what is being said.




"Furthermore, his research into conspiracy theories has given him a sense that he is the holder of privileged knowledge."


Who?

I'm making a general comment about the reluctance of many mainliners to acknowledge news reported all around the world but ignored by western msm.
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Cannydc » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:16 pm

Fletch wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Buzz Aldrin wrote:Boil in the bag head Fletch believes in anything that is untrue.


It's interesting that news, with facts and backed up, that put the UK or west in general in a bad light are labelled as being untrue by some. The very same people will quote stories in the msm from 'unnamed sources', 'a spokesman said'. 'it is understood that' or sometimes just blatantly lie yet this is meant to be 'facts' according to them.

The 'Tory runs a smear campaign' thread is eerily devoid of these people, as is the Middle East news thread yet claims of CT and fake news abound in other threads. I suppose it's easier to divert and troll in other threads than have to comment on threads with links and documents to back up what is being said.




"Furthermore, his research into conspiracy theories has given him a sense that he is the holder of privileged knowledge."


Who?

I'm making a general comment about the reluctance of many mainliners to acknowledge news reported all around the world but ignored by western msm.


And we are making general comments about those who believe in conspiracy theories including the one about MSM in some way hiding what the CTers perceive as "the truth".
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Fletch » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:29 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Buzz Aldrin wrote:Boil in the bag head Fletch believes in anything that is untrue.


It's interesting that news, with facts and backed up, that put the UK or west in general in a bad light are labelled as being untrue by some. The very same people will quote stories in the msm from 'unnamed sources', 'a spokesman said'. 'it is understood that' or sometimes just blatantly lie yet this is meant to be 'facts' according to them.

The 'Tory runs a smear campaign' thread is eerily devoid of these people, as is the Middle East news thread yet claims of CT and fake news abound in other threads. I suppose it's easier to divert and troll in other threads than have to comment on threads with links and documents to back up what is being said.




"Furthermore, his research into conspiracy theories has given him a sense that he is the holder of privileged knowledge."


Who?

I'm making a general comment about the reluctance of many mainliners to acknowledge news reported all around the world but ignored by western msm.


And we are making general comments about those who believe in conspiracy theories including the one about MSM in some way hiding what the CTers perceive as "the truth".


Are you suggesting the Integrity Initiative is a CT?

Reported in over 60 articles around the world but not a mention from UK msm.

Explain your thinking here canny?
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Maddog » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:06 pm

Are you suggesting the Integrity Initiative is a CT?

Reported in over 60 articles around the world but not a mention from UK msm.

Explain your thinking here canny?



He can't. Not until he gleans the "privileged knowledge".
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Fletch » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:21 pm

Maddog wrote:
Are you suggesting the Integrity Initiative is a CT?

Reported in over 60 articles around the world but not a mention from UK msm.

Explain your thinking here canny?



He can't. Not until he gleans the "privileged knowledge".


By reading one or more of the over 60 articles freely available online?

There's even a thread on it here with snippets and links to some of them and copies of documents. I don't think it's a 'privileged' thread, anyone can read and post in it.
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Cannydc » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:18 pm

Maddog wrote:
Are you suggesting the Integrity Initiative is a CT?

Reported in over 60 articles around the world but not a mention from UK msm.

Explain your thinking here canny?



He can't. Not until he gleans the "privileged knowledge".


He can - and has. MSM do a lot more checking to properly source and evidence, and 60 articles simply means 1 article regurgitated 59 times in many cases. Hence homed in File 13.
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Fletch » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:27 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Are you suggesting the Integrity Initiative is a CT?

Reported in over 60 articles around the world but not a mention from UK msm.

Explain your thinking here canny?



He can't. Not until he gleans the "privileged knowledge".


He can - and has. MSM do a lot more checking to properly source and evidence, and 60 articles simply means 1 article regurgitated 59 times in many cases. Hence homed in File 13.


So you are saying the Integrity Initiative is a CT?

The documents presented and even copies of the head guy's passport are fake? That the UK FCO didn't fund it to the tune of over 2 million and that the minister confirmed this in the HoC for a bet or was it joke canny?

Can you confirm where you got the evidence that it was 1 article regurgitated 59 times?
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Fletch » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:28 pm

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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Fletch » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:36 pm

There are several new stories about the Integrity Initiative though still none in any mainstream media.

At Sputnik Kit Klarenberg looks into the Initiative's 'cluster' operations Germany:
Damaging Ties: Why Germany is the Integrity Initiative’s 'Most Important Target'

At the Grayzone Mark Ames and Max Blumenthal look into its operations in the United States:
New Documents Reveal a Covert British Military-Intelligence Smear Machine Meddling In American Politics

Vesti News, a Russian TV station, draws a line between the Integrity Initiative and the Skirpal/Novichok case in Britain. The short segment seems to build on an earlier Klarenberg piece. While I also see a connection between the two, the data is -in my view- yet too scarce to draw any definite conclusion:

The Skripal Set-Up: Hackers Release Proof of UK’s Elaborate Operation to Hoax Salisbury Scandal (vid, English subs)

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/01/s ... rsky-.html

Links to articles on link plus more about the Integrity Initiative.
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Cannydc » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:38 pm

Fletch wrote:


George Galloway ?

GEORGE GALLOWAY ???

FFS Fletch. That's desperate. But I really admire your indefatiguability...

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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Fletch » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:45 pm

Fletch wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Are you suggesting the Integrity Initiative is a CT?

Reported in over 60 articles around the world but not a mention from UK msm.

Explain your thinking here canny?



He can't. Not until he gleans the "privileged knowledge".


He can - and has. MSM do a lot more checking to properly source and evidence, and 60 articles simply means 1 article regurgitated 59 times in many cases. Hence homed in File 13.


So you are saying the Integrity Initiative is a CT?

The documents presented and even copies of the head guy's passport are fake? That the UK FCO didn't fund it to the tune of over 2 million and that the minister confirmed this in the HoC for a bet or was it joke canny?

Can you confirm where you got the evidence that it was 1 article regurgitated 59 times?


You appear to have missed this one and concentrated on a tweet by GG. Is the tweet fake or are you suggesting what's in it is fake, or maybe GG is fake? Which is it canny? :dunno:
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Cannydc » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:39 pm

Fletch wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Are you suggesting the Integrity Initiative is a CT?

Reported in over 60 articles around the world but not a mention from UK msm.

Explain your thinking here canny?



He can't. Not until he gleans the "privileged knowledge".


He can - and has. MSM do a lot more checking to properly source and evidence, and 60 articles simply means 1 article regurgitated 59 times in many cases. Hence homed in File 13.


So you are saying the Integrity Initiative is a CT?

The documents presented and even copies of the head guy's passport are fake? That the UK FCO didn't fund it to the tune of over 2 million and that the minister confirmed this in the HoC for a bet or was it joke canny?

Can you confirm where you got the evidence that it was 1 article regurgitated 59 times?


You appear to have missed this one and concentrated on a tweet by GG. Is the tweet fake or are you suggesting what's in it is fake, or maybe GG is fake? Which is it canny? :dunno:


Just another unreliable, unaccountable, unbelievable and unimportant 'source' of so-called information.

And you have the cheek to complain that MSM is no place to source info...
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Fletch » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:07 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Fletch wrote:You appear to have missed this one and concentrated on a tweet by GG. Is the tweet fake or are you suggesting what's in it is fake, or maybe GG is fake? Which is it canny? :dunno:


Just another unreliable, unaccountable, unbelievable and unimportant 'source' of so-called information.

And you have the cheek to complain that MSM is no place to source info...


Well George was just commenting on what was discovered in the documents from the Integrity Imitative. He wasn't making it up, the documents exist, he wasn't presenting a story, just commenting on what had been released.

You seem keen to comment about GG but not so keen to even acknowledge, let alone comment, on the details leaked about the Integrity Initiative. You know, the one confirmed to exist and be funded by UK government by the FCO Minister in the House of Commons or maybe that's a CT too, or was the FCO minister joking/lying?
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