Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

[Fletch]

But what about the print clean knife he was supposed to have used?

Or the lack of blood.......or the low dose of drug in the bloodstream.....

Heard it all before, but for some reason rather than listening to people trying to prove negatives I went for Occam's Razor option instead.

Why are you so convinced that there was no nefarious behaviour around the (very convenient) death of Dr Kelly canny?

Because there was no reason to kill him.

And because there were very many reasons for him to do the job himself.

As usual though, for many the obvious is dutifully ignored in favour of the vaguely possible and therefore far more interesting.

Obvious like a knife 'he used' having no prints on it and he didn't wear gloves? Obvious like all the witnesses that were refused to give evidence at the inquiry, obvious such as everything Jack has posted? All irrelevant because in your opinion, "there was no reason to kill him"

All you're doing is what your service training has taught you to do. Do as you're told, think as you're told and never question authority. Now go polish your boots with cotton wool, inspection at 0600 hours.

[Maddog]

But what about the print clean knife he was supposed to have used?

Or the lack of blood.......or the low dose of drug in the bloodstream.....

Heard it all before, but for some reason rather than listening to people trying to prove negatives I went for Occam's Razor option instead.

Why are you so convinced that there was no nefarious behaviour around the (very convenient) death of Dr Kelly canny?

Because there was no reason to kill him.

And because there were very many reasons for him to do the job himself.

As usual though, for many the obvious is dutifully ignored in favour of the vaguely possible and therefore far more interesting.

Obvious like a knife 'he used' having no prints on it and he didn't wear gloves? Obvious like all the witnesses that were refused to give evidence at the inquiry, obvious such as everything Jack has posted? All irrelevant because in your opinion, "there was no reason to kill him"

All you're doing is what your service training has taught you to do. Do as you're told, think as you're told and never question authority. Now go polish your boots with cotton wool, inspection at 0600 hours.

"These surface-scratchers and decoders are able to join the dots, spot the agendas, and see the hidden forces at play. They are different, woke, "too special to be duped.""

[Cannydc]

But what about the print clean knife he was supposed to have used?

Or the lack of blood.......or the low dose of drug in the bloodstream.....

Heard it all before, but for some reason rather than listening to people trying to prove negatives I went for Occam's Razor option instead.

Why are you so convinced that there was no nefarious behaviour around the (very convenient) death of Dr Kelly canny?

Because there was no reason to kill him.

And because there were very many reasons for him to do the job himself.

As usual though, for many the obvious is dutifully ignored in favour of the vaguely possible and therefore far more interesting.

Obvious like a knife 'he used' having no prints on it and he didn't wear gloves? Obvious like all the witnesses that were refused to give evidence at the inquiry, obvious such as everything Jack has posted? All irrelevant because in your opinion, "there was no reason to kill him"

All you're doing is what your service training has taught you to do. Do as you're told, think as you're told and never question authority. Now go polish your boots with cotton wool, inspection at 0600 hours.

I was in the RAF.

All we had to do was turn up, strangely we were encouraged to think for ourselves (it's called initiative, not many civvies have heard of it so it rarely gets mentioned when they lecture us on how we were trained) so all we had to think about was picking the best hotels on detachment, and whether the G+Ts had enough ice.

[Rolluplostinspace]

So why has the helicopter log been altered and hidden?
Why can the public not have access to the coroner's report for seventy years.
Why have witnesses been prevented from speaking.
Why were there no fingerprints on the knife.
All this is perfectly normal to the likes of Canny and Maddog.
Perfectly normal nothing being hidden at all this is the way these things always unfold,.
Bollox.
What does Canny know that we don't when he says there was no reason to kill him?

[LordRaven]

What do you think happens to a country when it’s been invaded and plundered?
Of course life for the average didn’t improve and those who had little ended up with even less.

The British Raj lasted less than 100 years
But it certainly didn't improve under the Mogul Empire which lasted more than 200 years.

Was British rule worse than Muslim rule for Indians?
I don't know the answer to that.

Certainly didn’t help improve things, except for a few fancy buildings and uptight Victorian values.

Oh I don't know, 5 warring divisions (sultanates I believe?)all at each others throats prior to the British is now the biggest democracy in the world and it is undoubtedly a wonderful example of a nation gaining world status.
The Victorian values you speak of have provided great education, law & order, civil liberties (in spite of the caste system), infrastructure --am I right in thinking Indian National Railways are biggest employer in the world (?) - etc etc etc to the point that India produces some of the most brilliant people on the planet.
It has surpassed the UK in just about everything and has its own Space Agency, nuclear capability -both Civilian and Military- and it is undoubtedly a world power with far more capability in wealth and military status to the old mother country, for we seem to be languishing and going backwards.
I have heard Indian people say that they are grateful to the British Raj, and I can well understand their saying so. India is far more powerful a force on the world scene than Britain without doubt.
And that is because, in my opinion, of the Indian people themselves.

Education has always been an important focus for Indians. Victorians brought beaurocracy so yeah, things are more organised, overly so in some areas. Indian people are polite about the history, plenty of it was tyrannical, oppressive and murderous. Indians were and are regarded as second class citizens in their own country, don’t kid yourself with romantic notions about the British Raj.

No offence but I hold naff all romantic notions about the British Raj in India, although I would say that the British Raj was a damned sight more benevolent to Indian peole than the East India Company who were in turn a right bunch of cunts.
Before you rant please tell me how a few thousand bureaucrats with British Officers and Indian troops managed to run the place? It seems quite extraordinary to me.
I am guessing all Indian peoples welcomed the demise of the 5 warring sultanates and they probably welcomed the schooling/education for all, law & order, the national railways, telegraphs, peace in their time and equal rights for all Indians - and bollox to the caste system - plus they probably took comfort in the Indian staffed bureaucracy that ran the whole thing etc etc.
Once Gandhi and Co, quite rightly, embarked on their protests it was inevitable that India would become a sovereign nation through seeking independence.
However LM I don't think India would have ever existed as such a large democracy had the British never got involved. The British created all the institutions and vehicles wherein it became possible.
Had the British not been in India I dread to think what the Sub Continent would look like today, because it would have continued with internal wars amongst its own peoples and the only way it would have become united would have been through war with the biggest baddest blood-thirstiest bastard of them all winning.
I agree that British involvement in India was at first bloody and shameful but it almost seems to me that, in a seeming apology for such bad behaviour, they then modernised the whole country and put in (then) modern infrastructure run by the Indian people themselves with gradually reducing British oversight that seemed to naturally steer India into its role as a thoroughly modern succesful nation that is also the largest democracy in the world.
The Jewel In The Crown has done well and long may it continue to do so as we head further into this century

[Fletch]

From Baghdad to Finland and All Across the World: What’s the US Up To?

Why does the US Embassy in Helsinki need a big warehouse near Malmi Airport and what are the contents of thousands of kilograms of cargo sent to Helsinki from Baghdad?

The Wikileaks’ database has also revealed mysterious packages being sent to the US Embassy in Finland from their embassy in Baghdad.

The database displaying US embassy procurements around the world shows that tons of cargo are being distributed to Helsinki and other US embassies via regular airfreight cargo deliveries from Baghdad.

Twelve consignments, each logged at 5000 kilograms are recorded as sent to Helsinki and 23 other West European US embassies – an average of 2500 kilograms per US embassy.

The reason for such a vast volume of embassy deliveries from Baghdad is as yet unknown but this latest disclosure follows Wikileaks news that the US Consulate in Frankfurt was a purchase and postal centre for distributing spy equipment to other US embassies worldwide. Concerns are now raised that the US Embassy in Baghdad is also being used as a main distribution centre for secret operations.

In addition to Finland and Western Europe, the Wikileaks database shows that the US embassy in Baghdad disseminates hundreds of tons worldwide, with more than 300,000 kilograms recorded as being delivered Stateside alone.

Incoming diplomatic mail between embassies receives customs clearance and is automatically classified as a US government shipment.

The 80 page order list also details massive movements of road and air freight between Basra in the south of Iraq and Erbil in the north. No indication of the cargo contents are provided but the order sheets reveal convoys of trucks and vehicles were hired by Baghdad’s US embassy for the mysterious shipments.

https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/15/fro ... -us-up-to/

[Fletch]

Outgoing IDF Chief Says Yes, We Armed Anti-Government Extremists in Syria

That Israel was assisting rebel groups with extremist ideologies in Syria has been widely believed by a number of observers, who were often derided as “conspiracy theorists” for floating the notion. Eisenkot’s statements confirm those suspicions.

TEL AVIV, ISRAEL — Israel’s covert war against Iran in Syria was officially corroborated by Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) chief Lieutenant-General Gadi Eisenkot, the architect of the campaign.

The notion was fueled in part by Israel’s medivacing flights of wounded Jabhat al Nusra fighters to Israeli hospitals under Operation Good Neighbor. Jabhat al Nusra is one of al-Qaeda’s main affiliates in Syria.

The groups armed by Israel are in and around the Golan Heights, of which Israel illegally annexed the western two-thirds in 1967.

The Israelis also supplied more than 3 million pounds of food, more than half a million pounds of clothes, a quarter of a million gallons of fuel, 21 electrical generators, and nearly 25,000 palettes of medical supplies.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/outgoing- ... ia/253882/

Yet another conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact.

It looks very much like when the establishment/deep state get found out, the cry of CT is cranked up from them and their chums in the media. The gullible, who rely on such news like BBC, CNN, printed press, then repeat it as if it's actually true and then disappear when proof is offered to the contrary.

[Cannydc]

Anyone care to guess where the central Russian hub for spying kit distribution to it's embassies is ?

Or should we quietly ignore them, and concentrate on undermining those who purport to be our allies instead ?

[Fletch]

Anyone care to guess where the central Russian hub for spying kit distribution to it's embassies is ?

Or should we quietly ignore them, and concentrate on undermining those who purport to be our allies instead ?

Post up the details then and we'll have a read.

meanwhile, why is the US embassy in Iraq shipping stuff, why not straight from the US to Helsinki, or US to the other sites mentioned?

[Maddog]

Outgoing IDF Chief Says Yes, We Armed Anti-Government Extremists in Syria

That Israel was assisting rebel groups with extremist ideologies in Syria has been widely believed by a number of observers, who were often derided as “conspiracy theorists” for floating the notion. Eisenkot’s statements confirm those suspicions.

TEL AVIV, ISRAEL — Israel’s covert war against Iran in Syria was officially corroborated by Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) chief Lieutenant-General Gadi Eisenkot, the architect of the campaign.

The notion was fueled in part by Israel’s medivacing flights of wounded Jabhat al Nusra fighters to Israeli hospitals under Operation Good Neighbor. Jabhat al Nusra is one of al-Qaeda’s main affiliates in Syria.

The groups armed by Israel are in and around the Golan Heights, of which Israel illegally annexed the western two-thirds in 1967.

The Israelis also supplied more than 3 million pounds of food, more than half a million pounds of clothes, a quarter of a million gallons of fuel, 21 electrical generators, and nearly 25,000 palettes of medical supplies.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/outgoing- ... ia/253882/

Yet another conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact.

It looks very much like when the establishment/deep state get found out, the cry of CT is cranked up from them and their chums in the media. The gullible, who rely on such news like BBC, CNN, printed press, then repeat it as if it's actually true and then disappear when proof is offered to the contrary.

No conspiracy. Israel and Iran are fighting a proxy war in Syria. I don't think anyone doesn't know that both of those countries are arming the enemies of each other.

[Fletch]

Outgoing IDF Chief Says Yes, We Armed Anti-Government Extremists in Syria

That Israel was assisting rebel groups with extremist ideologies in Syria has been widely believed by a number of observers, who were often derided as “conspiracy theorists” for floating the notion. Eisenkot’s statements confirm those suspicions.

TEL AVIV, ISRAEL — Israel’s covert war against Iran in Syria was officially corroborated by Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) chief Lieutenant-General Gadi Eisenkot, the architect of the campaign.

The notion was fueled in part by Israel’s medivacing flights of wounded Jabhat al Nusra fighters to Israeli hospitals under Operation Good Neighbor. Jabhat al Nusra is one of al-Qaeda’s main affiliates in Syria.

The groups armed by Israel are in and around the Golan Heights, of which Israel illegally annexed the western two-thirds in 1967.

The Israelis also supplied more than 3 million pounds of food, more than half a million pounds of clothes, a quarter of a million gallons of fuel, 21 electrical generators, and nearly 25,000 palettes of medical supplies.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/outgoing- ... ia/253882/

Yet another conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact.

It looks very much like when the establishment/deep state get found out, the cry of CT is cranked up from them and their chums in the media. The gullible, who rely on such news like BBC, CNN, printed press, then repeat it as if it's actually true and then disappear when proof is offered to the contrary.

No conspiracy. Israel and Iran are fighting a proxy war in Syria. I don't think anyone doesn't know that both of those countries are arming the enemies of each other.

Iran, in conjunction with Hezbollah, Russia and Syria, are fighting western backed terrorists to prevent yet another regime change. Israel are taking pot shots because they want chaos in the Middle East and broken countries, not a united strong country right on it's border.

[Maddog]

Outgoing IDF Chief Says Yes, We Armed Anti-Government Extremists in Syria

That Israel was assisting rebel groups with extremist ideologies in Syria has been widely believed by a number of observers, who were often derided as “conspiracy theorists” for floating the notion. Eisenkot’s statements confirm those suspicions.

TEL AVIV, ISRAEL — Israel’s covert war against Iran in Syria was officially corroborated by Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) chief Lieutenant-General Gadi Eisenkot, the architect of the campaign.

The notion was fueled in part by Israel’s medivacing flights of wounded Jabhat al Nusra fighters to Israeli hospitals under Operation Good Neighbor. Jabhat al Nusra is one of al-Qaeda’s main affiliates in Syria.

The groups armed by Israel are in and around the Golan Heights, of which Israel illegally annexed the western two-thirds in 1967.

The Israelis also supplied more than 3 million pounds of food, more than half a million pounds of clothes, a quarter of a million gallons of fuel, 21 electrical generators, and nearly 25,000 palettes of medical supplies.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/outgoing- ... ia/253882/

Yet another conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact.

It looks very much like when the establishment/deep state get found out, the cry of CT is cranked up from them and their chums in the media. The gullible, who rely on such news like BBC, CNN, printed press, then repeat it as if it's actually true and then disappear when proof is offered to the contrary.

No conspiracy. Israel and Iran are fighting a proxy war in Syria. I don't think anyone doesn't know that both of those countries are arming the enemies of each other.

Iran, in conjunction with Hezbollah, Russia and Syria, are fighting western backed terrorists to prevent yet another regime change. Israel are taking pot shots because they want chaos in the Middle East and broken countries, not a united strong country right on it's border.

Iran is defending Assad from those that want to depose him.

Getting to take on Israel and Saudi is just a bonus.

It's like Yemen without the Israelis.

Or is it????????????????????

[LordRaven]

Outgoing IDF Chief Says Yes, We Armed Anti-Government Extremists in Syria

That Israel was assisting rebel groups with extremist ideologies in Syria has been widely believed by a number of observers, who were often derided as “conspiracy theorists” for floating the notion. Eisenkot’s statements confirm those suspicions.

TEL AVIV, ISRAEL — Israel’s covert war against Iran in Syria was officially corroborated by Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) chief Lieutenant-General Gadi Eisenkot, the architect of the campaign.

The notion was fueled in part by Israel’s medivacing flights of wounded Jabhat al Nusra fighters to Israeli hospitals under Operation Good Neighbor. Jabhat al Nusra is one of al-Qaeda’s main affiliates in Syria.

The groups armed by Israel are in and around the Golan Heights, of which Israel illegally annexed the western two-thirds in 1967.

The Israelis also supplied more than 3 million pounds of food, more than half a million pounds of clothes, a quarter of a million gallons of fuel, 21 electrical generators, and nearly 25,000 palettes of medical supplies.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/outgoing- ... ia/253882/

Yet another conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact.

It looks very much like when the establishment/deep state get found out, the cry of CT is cranked up from them and their chums in the media. The gullible, who rely on such news like BBC, CNN, printed press, then repeat it as if it's actually true and then disappear when proof is offered to the contrary.

No conspiracy. Israel and Iran are fighting a proxy war in Syria. I don't think anyone doesn't know that both of those countries are arming the enemies of each other.

Iran, in conjunction with Hezbollah, Russia and Syria, are fighting western backed terrorists to prevent yet another regime change. Israel are taking pot shots because they want chaos in the Middle East and broken countries, not a united strong country right on it's border.

You really are fast becoming The Lord Haw Haw of Sleeping Dogs Felch

[Rolluplostinspace]

So why has the helicopter log been altered and hidden?
Why can the public not have access to the coroner's report for seventy years.
Why have witnesses been prevented from speaking.
Why were there no fingerprints on the knife.
All this is perfectly normal to the likes of Canny and Maddog.
Perfectly normal nothing being hidden at all this is the way these things always unfold,.
Bollox.
What does Canny know that we don't when he says there was no reason to kill him?

Look what just happens to pop up in the news ...... Damning new evidence that Dr Kelly DIDN'T commit suicide: The disturbing flaws in the official government story surrounding the death of Blair's chemical weapons expert
Yes he just happens to have written a book on the subject ..... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... mXtwc0GGY8

[Cannydc]

"Yes he just happens to have written a book on the subject ..."

All very 'samey', like the Portuguese cop writing a sensationalist book about the disappearance of Madelaine Mccann etc.

Hang a few possibilities together, add a few unproveable 'facts', find a publisher and serialise it in the Daily Fail - Bob's your uncle.