Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:50 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:India didn’t have the level of poverty it does now before the British Raj and other invaders did their smash n grab.


I think that you will find that extreme poverty in India predates the British Raj by hundreds of years
One of the main causes is the caste system that underpinned India's social structure and goes back to 1000bc

Certainly it doesn't seem that life improved for the average Indian under British rule - and I'm not proud of the British Empire heritage either
But to blame India's historic poverty problem solely on Britain is an exageration I think.


What do you think happens to a country when it’s been invaded and plundered?
Of course life for the average didn’t improve and those who had little ended up with even less.


The British Raj lasted less than 100 years
But it certainly didn't improve under the Mogul Empire which lasted more than 200 years.

Was British rule worse than Muslim rule for Indians?
I don't know the answer to that.


Certainly didn’t help improve things, except for a few fancy buildings and uptight Victorian values.
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby MungoBrush » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:53 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:India didn’t have the level of poverty it does now before the British Raj and other invaders did their smash n grab.


I think that you will find that extreme poverty in India predates the British Raj by hundreds of years
One of the main causes is the caste system that underpinned India's social structure and goes back to 1000bc

Certainly it doesn't seem that life improved for the average Indian under British rule - and I'm not proud of the British Empire heritage either
But to blame India's historic poverty problem solely on Britain is an exageration I think.


What do you think happens to a country when it’s been invaded and plundered?
Of course life for the average didn’t improve and those who had little ended up with even less.


The British Raj lasted less than 100 years
But it certainly didn't improve under the Mogul Empire which lasted more than 200 years.

Was British rule worse than Muslim rule for Indians?
I don't know the answer to that.


Certainly didn’t help improve things, except for a few fancy buildings and uptight Victorian values.


Maybe some people here want to blame the Romans for Brexit?
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:55 pm

Well if they hadn’t built those roads....
People would still be sourcing and trading locally etc etc..
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby McAz » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:15 pm

MungoBrush wrote:Maybe some people here want to blame the Romans for Brexit?

Why would they want to do that, Drongo? :off head:
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:22 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:Well if they hadn’t built those roads....
People would still be sourcing and trading locally etc etc..

If they hadn't built them I'm sure the Irish would have eventually.
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:27 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Well if they hadn’t built those roads....
People would still be sourcing and trading locally etc etc..

If they hadn't built them I'm sure the Irish would have eventually.


And the sewers? Temples? Public baths?
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:31 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Well if they hadn’t built those roads....
People would still be sourcing and trading locally etc etc..

If they hadn't built them I'm sure the Irish would have eventually.


And the sewers? Temples? Public baths?

The Irish .... if someone could have gotten them out the pub.
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:38 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Well if they hadn’t built those roads....
People would still be sourcing and trading locally etc etc..

If they hadn't built them I'm sure the Irish would have eventually.


And the sewers? Temples? Public baths?

The Irish .... if someone could have gotten them out the pub.


But the Romans brought over those oils, can’t have a proper bath without oils!
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:40 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Well if they hadn’t built those roads....
People would still be sourcing and trading locally etc etc..

If they hadn't built them I'm sure the Irish would have eventually.


And the sewers? Temples? Public baths?

The Irish .... if someone could have gotten them out the pub.


But the Romans brought over those oils, can’t have a proper bath without oils!

Little bottles of Guiness ....
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:47 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:If they hadn't built them I'm sure the Irish would have eventually.


And the sewers? Temples? Public baths?

The Irish .... if someone could have gotten them out the pub.


But the Romans brought over those oils, can’t have a proper bath without oils!

Little bottles of Guiness ....


We’re talking about Baths not brothels.
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby MungoBrush » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:16 am

Lady Murasaki wrote:
We’re talking about Baths not brothels.


The Roman Empire was the original EU

There was a common currency
Freedom of movement
A European Army
An overriding justice system
And taxes to Rome for all
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby McAz » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:26 am

You don't say? :roll:
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby LordRaven » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:07 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:India didn’t have the level of poverty it does now before the British Raj and other invaders did their smash n grab.


I think that you will find that extreme poverty in India predates the British Raj by hundreds of years
One of the main causes is the caste system that underpinned India's social structure and goes back to 1000bc

Certainly it doesn't seem that life improved for the average Indian under British rule - and I'm not proud of the British Empire heritage either
But to blame India's historic poverty problem solely on Britain is an exageration I think.


What do you think happens to a country when it’s been invaded and plundered?
Of course life for the average didn’t improve and those who had little ended up with even less.


The British Raj lasted less than 100 years
But it certainly didn't improve under the Mogul Empire which lasted more than 200 years.

Was British rule worse than Muslim rule for Indians?
I don't know the answer to that.


Certainly didn’t help improve things, except for a few fancy buildings and uptight Victorian values.


Oh I don't know, 5 warring divisions (sultanates I believe?)all at each others throats prior to the British is now the biggest democracy in the world and it is undoubtedly a wonderful example of a nation gaining world status.
The Victorian values you speak of have provided great education, law & order, civil liberties (in spite of the caste system), infrastructure --am I right in thinking Indian National Railways are biggest employer in the world (?) - etc etc etc to the point that India produces some of the most brilliant people on the planet.
It has surpassed the UK in just about everything and has its own Space Agency, nuclear capability -both Civilian and Military- and it is undoubtedly a world power with far more capability in wealth and military status to the old mother country, for we seem to be languishing and going backwards.
I have heard Indian people say that they are grateful to the British Raj, and I can well understand their saying so. India is far more powerful a force on the world scene than Britain without doubt.
And that is because, in my opinion, of the Indian people themselves.
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby art0hur0moh » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:37 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
I think that you will find that extreme poverty in India predates the British Raj by hundreds of years
One of the main causes is the caste system that underpinned India's social structure and goes back to 1000bc

Certainly it doesn't seem that life improved for the average Indian under British rule - and I'm not proud of the British Empire heritage either
But to blame India's historic poverty problem solely on Britain is an exageration I think.


What do you think happens to a country when it’s been invaded and plundered?
Of course life for the average didn’t improve and those who had little ended up with even less.


The British Raj lasted less than 100 years
But it certainly didn't improve under the Mogul Empire which lasted more than 200 years.

Was British rule worse than Muslim rule for Indians?
I don't know the answer to that.


Certainly didn’t help improve things, except for a few fancy buildings and uptight Victorian values.


Maybe some people here want to blame the Romans for Brexit?


if latin was a dead language, why do the legislature and medical institutions use it?
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists Just Want to Feel Special

Postby art0hur0moh » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:41 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Well if they hadn’t built those roads....
People would still be sourcing and trading locally etc etc..

If they hadn't built them I'm sure the Irish would have eventually.


And the sewers? Temples? Public baths?

The Irish .... if someone could have gotten them out the pub.


But the Romans brought over those oils, can’t have a proper bath without oils!

if I forget a towel, I have oil to dry My Self with. saying that the floor needs to be washed with soap after.
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