Coup in Venezuela

Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:34 pm

Washington Orchestrates Coup in Venezuela, Incites Civil War, in Name of ‘Democracy’

The dramatic events in Venezuela have “US-orchestrated coup d’état” written all over them. Washington is also giving itself license for military intervention which could spark a proxy war involving Russia.

The sequencing leaves no doubt the US has upped the ante for regime change in the South American country.
This week, Vice President Mike Pence issued a call to arms with a deft video address to the “people of Venezuela” to take to the streets against the elected government. Pence also urged the country’s security forces to back the protests, adding, “we [the US] are with you.”

Next day, the opposition figure Juan Guaido holds a major rally in the capital Caracas and declares himself “interim president of Venezuela” while denouncing incumbent Nicolas Maduro as “a usurper.”

Within minutes, US President Trump announces he is recognizing Guaido as the legitimate authority in Venezuela. Trump’s imprimatur is swiftly followed by Canada and several right-wing South American governments allied with Washington. French President Emmanuel Macron says he supports “the restoration of democracy” in Venezuela and salutes “the courage of the hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans marching for their freedom”.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50958.htm

Years of sanctions and isolation didn't break them so it's now the old regime change charade. Trump, "why can't we all just get along" seems to have forgotten what he was elected on...again.

Who the fuck are the US to decide who rules a sovereign nation anyway?

With Russia, China, Iran and Turkey and some others such as Mexico behind Venezuela, it may not be as easy as the US once found it.
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:36 pm

Washington Has Appointed A President For Venezuela
By Paul Craig Roberts

After listening since 2016 to the American presstitutes complain, without providing a mere scrap of evidence, of Russia meddling in US elections, a person would think that the last thing Washington would do would be to meddle in other countries’ elections.

Unfortunately, that is not the case. Washington routinely meddles but now has gone far beyond mere meddling. Washington has this day (January 23, 2019) declared that the elected president of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, is no longer the Venezuelan president. Washington, not the Venezulan people, has decided who is Venezuela’s president. Declaring the elected government to be “illegitimate,” President Trump elected by diktat the Venezuelan president: “Today, I am officially recognizing the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaido, as the Interim President of Venezuela.” https://www.retarded.com/news/449533-trump-re ... pposition/

Clearly, Gaido is in Washington’s pocket or Washington would not have chosen him.

Maduro, like Chavez before him, has committed the unpardonable crime of representing the Venezuelan people instead of American corporate and financial interests. Washington simply does not tolerate Latin American governments that represent Latin American people. As US Marine General Smedley Buttler said, he and his Marines made Latin America safe for the United Fruit Company and investments by US banks.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50962.htm
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:45 pm

Utter codswallop! :shake head:
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:45 pm

Washington Has Appointed A President For Venezuela
By Paul Craig Roberts

So, now Venezuela has two presidents. One elected by the people, and one appointed by Washington. How long before Washington does this to Russia, China, Iran, Syria, Turkey, India?

Washington managed to frame and remove from power the female reformist president of Argentina and to replace her with a right-wing Washington puppet.

Washington managed to frame, remove from power, and imprison the leaders of the reformist party in Brazil and to install a right-wing Washington puppet.

Washington managed to dispose of the reformist government in Ecuador, install a Washington puppet, and use him against Julian Assange.

Washington interferred in the French election by framing the likely socialist candidate, Dominique Strauss-Kahn on a bogus rape charge that fell apart after removing Strauss-Kahn from contention.

The American leftwing blames Washington for the overthrow of the Allende government in Chile, although my views on this are different. Nevertheless, the claim fits the pattern.

The reformist government in Bolivia is also under Washington pressure.

Somehow, the rest of the world does not become outraged by Washington’s massive interference in the political affairs of other countries. Even Russia’s Vladimir Putin accepts Washington’s interferrence in Russian elections and Ukraine’s elections. Washington’s bullying, like Israel’s bullying, is somehow acceptable to countries that are far too powerful to have to accept it.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50962.htm

The next part of the same article.
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:47 pm

LordRaven wrote:Utter codswallop! :shake head:


What is Raven?
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:56 pm

Fletch wrote:Washington Orchestrates Coup in Venezuela, Incites Civil War, in Name of ‘Democracy’

The dramatic events in Venezuela have “US-orchestrated coup d’état” written all over them. Washington is also giving itself license for military intervention which could spark a proxy war involving Russia.

The sequencing leaves no doubt the US has upped the ante for regime change in the South American country.
This week, Vice President Mike Pence issued a call to arms with a deft video address to the “people of Venezuela” to take to the streets against the elected government. Pence also urged the country’s security forces to back the protests, adding, “we [the US] are with you.”

Next day, the opposition figure Juan Guaido holds a major rally in the capital Caracas and declares himself “interim president of Venezuela” while denouncing incumbent Nicolas Maduro as “a usurper.”

Within minutes, US President Trump announces he is recognizing Guaido as the legitimate authority in Venezuela. Trump’s imprimatur is swiftly followed by Canada and several right-wing South American governments allied with Washington. French President Emmanuel Macron says he supports “the restoration of democracy” in Venezuela and salutes “the courage of the hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans marching for their freedom”.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50958.htm

Years of sanctions and isolation didn't break them so it's now the old regime change charade. Trump, "why can't we all just get along" seems to have forgotten what he was elected on...again.

Who the fuck are the US to decide who rules a sovereign nation anyway?

With Russia, China, Iran and Turkey and some others such as Mexico behind Venezuela, it may not be as easy as the US once found it.


Venezuela crisis: Seven killed in violent crackdown on protests as Maduro digs in for battle with Trump
Hundreds of thousands of demonstrators took to the streets across the country to protest election

At least seven people have been killed during unrest in Venezuela following mass protests against the South American country’s president Nicolas Maduro.

Hundreds of thousands of demonstrators took to the streets across the country in a bid to topple the socialist leader, who is clinging onto power amid political and economic crisis.


Juan Guaido, the new leader of the opposition-controlled National Assembly, declared himself the country’s interim president as he addressed cheering crowds in the capital Caracas on Wednesday.

The demonstrations had been planned by a newly invigorated opposition to coincide with the anniversary of the end of Venezuela‘s last military dictatorship in 1958.

Tensions have been escalating since Mr Maduro office for a second six-year term on 10 January following a widely boycotted election, described by several foreign governments as a sham.

Mr Guaido vowed to establish a transitional government until legitimate elections could be held, a move he said was the only way to end “dictatorship” in Venezuela, where millions have fled in recent years to escape sky-high inflation and shortages of food and medicine.

In a united and seemingly coordinated front, the US, Canada and another dozen mostly Latin American countries, including Brazil, Colombia and Argentina, quickly announced that they supported Mr Guaido’s claim to the presidency. Uruguay and Bolivia did not support the move, while Mexico maintained its policy of remaining neutral.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 43941.html

Felch why is it you support Presidents who happily shoot and kill their own people?

A country where millions have fled in spite of its huge oil reserves?

Perhaps the US and other countries are concerned about millions fleeing and claiming asylum.

Why do you support bloodthirsty dictators Felch?

Why are you anti the people of Venezuela demanding change?
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:02 pm

Fletch wrote:
LordRaven wrote:Utter codswallop! :shake head:


What is Raven?


Anything and everything you post on here. You have zero sense of what the people of Venezuela are suffering and/or why they are demanding change.

Who are you to tell them that they have no right to complain? Please advise.

And as for Russia? With all the money they have invested in the Venezuelan oil industry and keeping the current president in power it is no wonder they are backing him.
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:03 pm

Fletch wrote:Washington Has Appointed A President For Venezuela
By Paul Craig Roberts

So, now Venezuela has two presidents. One elected by the people, and one appointed by Washington. How long before Washington does this to Russia, China, Iran, Syria, Turkey, India?

Washington managed to frame and remove from power the female reformist president of Argentina and to replace her with a right-wing Washington puppet.

Washington managed to frame, remove from power, and imprison the leaders of the reformist party in Brazil and to install a right-wing Washington puppet.

Washington managed to dispose of the reformist government in Ecuador, install a Washington puppet, and use him against Julian Assange.

Washington interferred in the French election by framing the likely socialist candidate, Dominique Strauss-Kahn on a bogus rape charge that fell apart after removing Strauss-Kahn from contention.

The American leftwing blames Washington for the overthrow of the Allende government in Chile, although my views on this are different. Nevertheless, the claim fits the pattern.

The reformist government in Bolivia is also under Washington pressure.

Somehow, the rest of the world does not become outraged by Washington’s massive interference in the political affairs of other countries. Even Russia’s Vladimir Putin accepts Washington’s interferrence in Russian elections and Ukraine’s elections. Washington’s bullying, like Israel’s bullying, is somehow acceptable to countries that are far too powerful to have to accept it.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50962.htm

The next part of the same article.

To quote the Orange One --Fake News!!!
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:10 pm

More of your western msm propaganda which doesn't mention anything about the years of financial attacks on Venezuela or the fact Pence gave the signal for regime change. Now Trump recognising the loser as President and your onside with that? You're a fucking moron Raven.
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:16 pm

Trump recognizes Venezuelan opposition leader as nation's president

President Donald Trump on Wednesday announced that he is recognizing Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido as the legitimate president of Venezuela.

"In its role as the only legitimate branch of government duly elected by the Venezuelan people, the National Assembly invoked the country's constitution to declare Nicolas Maduro illegitimate, and the office of the presidency therefore vacant. The people of Venezuela have courageously spoken out against Maduro and his regime and demanded freedom and the rule of law," Trump said in a statement recognizing Guaido as interim president of Venezuela.

Trump also urged other governments to recognize Guaido, adding that he "will continue to use the full weight of United States economic and diplomatic power to press for the restoration of Venezuelan democracy."

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/23/poli ... index.html

As reported by CNN.
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:20 pm

Fletch wrote:More of your western msm propaganda which doesn't mention anything about the years of financial attacks on Venezuela or the fact Pence gave the signal for regime change. Now Trump recognising the loser as President and your onside with that? You're a fucking moron Raven.


Can't you read?

In a united and seemingly coordinated front, the US, Canada and another dozen mostly Latin American countries, including Brazil, Colombia and Argentina, quickly announced that they supported Mr Guaido’s claim to the presidency. Uruguay and Bolivia did not support the move, while Mexico maintained its policy of remaining neutral.

That was in the article so please explain why Venezuela's neighbours and Venezuela's population are all wrong and only you --The Sleeping Dogs Village Idiot -- are the only one who is right?

With MILLIONS of Venezuelans and surrounding countries agreeing with me that you are a c**t who backs a Russian Backed Dictator, and with Russian Roubles keeping the Dictator in power and invested in that country's Oil Industry, please go ahead and tell me how all those Millions are wrong and you are right?

I am starting to think that you are more than a RUDI (Really Ultra Dull Individual) Felch, I am becoming aware that you love Presidents tbat Kill Their Own People?

You are a Fucking Nazi with dangerous anti democratic ideas :off head:
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:23 pm

LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:More of your western msm propaganda which doesn't mention anything about the years of financial attacks on Venezuela or the fact Pence gave the signal for regime change. Now Trump recognising the loser as President and your onside with that? You're a fucking moron Raven.


Can't you read?

In a united and seemingly coordinated front, the US, Canada and another dozen mostly Latin American countries, including Brazil, Colombia and Argentina, quickly announced that they supported Mr Guaido’s claim to the presidency. Uruguay and Bolivia did not support the move, while Mexico maintained its policy of remaining neutral.

That was in the article so please explain why Venezuela's neighbours and Venezuela's population are all wrong and only you --The Sleeping Dogs Village Idiot -- are the only one who is right?

With MILLIONS of Venezuelans and surrounding countries agreeing with me that you are a c**t who backs a Russian Backed Dictator, and with Russian Roubles keeping the Dictator in power and invested in that country's Oil Industry, please go ahead and tell me how all those Millions are wrong and you are right?

I am starting to think that you are more than a RUDI (Really Ultra Dull Individual) Felch, I am becoming aware that you love Presidents tbat Kill Their Own People?

You are a Fucking Nazi with dangerous anti democratic ideas :off head:


You'd do well to read Paul Craig Roberts article again, if you even read it in the first place that is. (further up thread)
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:27 pm

Fletch wrote:Trump recognizes Venezuelan opposition leader as nation's president

President Donald Trump on Wednesday announced that he is recognizing Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido as the legitimate president of Venezuela.

"In its role as the only legitimate branch of government duly elected by the Venezuelan people, the National Assembly invoked the country's constitution to declare Nicolas Maduro illegitimate, and the office of the presidency therefore vacant. The people of Venezuela have courageously spoken out against Maduro and his regime and demanded freedom and the rule of law," Trump said in a statement recognizing Guaido as interim president of Venezuela.

Trump also urged other governments to recognize Guaido, adding that he "will continue to use the full weight of United States economic and diplomatic power to press for the restoration of Venezuelan democracy."

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/23/poli ... index.html

As reported by CNN.


And you will also have read that there is no interest in Military Intervention but it doesn't suit you to post that does it you feeble minded pile of dog crap?

What is happening in Venezuela is a humanitarian crisis and people are protesting and/or fleeing the country in their millions --what part of that is not registering in your coprolite-like brain?

And why are you not condemning the shooting of 7 civilians? Why do you support leaders who shoot their own people?
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:30 pm

Fletch wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:More of your western msm propaganda which doesn't mention anything about the years of financial attacks on Venezuela or the fact Pence gave the signal for regime change. Now Trump recognising the loser as President and your onside with that? You're a fucking moron Raven.


Can't you read?

In a united and seemingly coordinated front, the US, Canada and another dozen mostly Latin American countries, including Brazil, Colombia and Argentina, quickly announced that they supported Mr Guaido’s claim to the presidency. Uruguay and Bolivia did not support the move, while Mexico maintained its policy of remaining neutral.

That was in the article so please explain why Venezuela's neighbours and Venezuela's population are all wrong and only you --The Sleeping Dogs Village Idiot -- are the only one who is right?

With MILLIONS of Venezuelans and surrounding countries agreeing with me that you are a c**t who backs a Russian Backed Dictator, and with Russian Roubles keeping the Dictator in power and invested in that country's Oil Industry, please go ahead and tell me how all those Millions are wrong and you are right?

I am starting to think that you are more than a RUDI (Really Ultra Dull Individual) Felch, I am becoming aware that you love Presidents tbat Kill Their Own People?

You are a Fucking Nazi with dangerous anti democratic ideas :off head:


You'd do well to read Paul Craig Roberts article again, if you even read it in the first place that is. (further up thread)



I tend to read about things and decide what actually matters to the population of countries ruled by leaders who happily shoot them and draw the obvious conclusion, and in this case it is clear that South America has it' very own Bob Mugabe/Idi Amin and I fear that he will always hold rigged elections and he will kill more people.

Why do you support such cunts Mr Coprolite Brain?
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Cactus Jack » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:41 pm

The inflation rate in Venezuela is 1.3 million % year on year
That means the hourly inflation rate is 1483% or, if you prefer, if you were paid £1,000 within the next hour it would be worth 67p - under those circumstances it doesn't matter who you call the president nobody is in charge
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