Coup in Venezuela

[Maddog]

Message for the Fletch knobber - go and ask some east Europeans for their opinions of Russian foreign policy and rule.

If it hadn't been for the pesky Americans, East Germany would still be the vibrant and prosperous country it always was.

[wutang]

[wutang]

Your grip on reality has always been tenuous at best, not surprised to see it here again.

Anti Semitic? Khazars, Europeans and Americans. Not a Semitic bone in their bodies, Palestinians on the other hand are Semitic people.

Anti-Semitism is hostility to and prejudice against Jewish people.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... i-semitism

You dont get to decide who is or isn't a Jew no matter how much you see yourself as the Surpreme Commander of Jewish recognition.

The Dual-citizens you refer to are Jews and the Jews secretly rule our Governments trope is a vile anti-semtic one used by Fascists since day one. Nice bedfellows you have there

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You specifically refereed to "Fake Jews". Nice try though.

[wutang]

It appears the US invented the coup and has used it to overthrow good government throughout the planet. Its shitty government like Norway and Switzerland that the US doesn't mess with.

The CIA was heavily involved in instigating the 2002 coup and only an idiot would think they arent operating in Venezuela right now.

There is a difference between general opposition to Maduro and "the coup". The latter refers to a specific group trying to set themselves up as the new regime and America wants this for the reasons John Bolton outlined....

OIL

The fact is this group isnt even that popular amongst the opposition but hey... America doesnt actually give a shit about the people of Venezuala and what they want, its about what American capitalists wants.

[wutang]

U.S. Targets Venezuela With Tough Oil Sanctions During Crisis of Power

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/28/us/p ... p-oil.html

Guess who get exemptions from the sanctions:

the sanctions included exceptions to allow the American oil company Chevron, along with Halliburton and Schlumberger, two large oil services providers, to continue working in Venezuela.

History repeats itself first as tragedy then as farce

[Maddog]

It appears the US invented the coup and has used it to overthrow good government throughout the planet. Its shitty government like Norway and Switzerland that the US doesn't mess with.

The CIA was heavily involved in instigating the 2002 coup and only an idiot would think they arent operating in Venezuela right now.

There is a difference between general opposition to Maduro and "the coup". The latter refers to a specific group trying to set themselves up as the new regime and America wants this for the reasons John Bolton outlined....

OIL

The fact is this group isnt even that popular amongst the opposition but hey... America doesnt actually give a shit about the people of Venezuala and what they want, its about what American capitalists wants.

Venezuela has a shit system. Shit systems end up collapsing. Been happening since day one. People that support the shit systems always find someone else to blame.

[Maddog]

It appears the US invented the coup and has used it to overthrow good government throughout the planet. Its shitty government like Norway and Switzerland that the US doesn't mess with.

The CIA was heavily involved in instigating the 2002 coup and only an idiot would think they arent operating in Venezuela right now.

There is a difference between general opposition to Maduro and "the coup". The latter refers to a specific group trying to set themselves up as the new regime and America wants this for the reasons John Bolton outlined....

OIL

The fact is this group isnt even that popular amongst the opposition but hey... America doesnt actually give a shit about the people of Venezuala and what they want, its about what American capitalists wants.

Venezuela has a shit system. Shit systems end up collapsing. Been happening since day one. People that support the shit systems always find someone else to blame.

Oh, and not shit systems dont collapse. Crazy eh? I can predict with near certainty that Norway won't collapse anytime soon. I must be a clairvoyant.

And if you're looking for a good recipe for cooked dog, ask a Venezuelan.

[Rolluplostinspace]

Who Needs Elections? Ask the US About the Government Your Country Should Have
Would anybody reading this article want to appoint him/herself as prime minister of Canada in front of a friendly crowd? All you need to say is that you don’t recognize the elected prime minister as legitimate.

I asked that question to a crowd at a rally organized to affirm the sovereignty of Venezuela a few days ago in Vancouver. No one came forward. Instead, people laughed, and for a good reason. The notion of such an occurrence is ridiculous. But think again. It just happened in Caracas, Venezuela last January 23 with the assent of the government of Canada.

An unknown Juan Guaidó of the Venezuelan opposition party Voluntad Popular appointed himself interim president of Venezuela in front of a multitude without fulfilling a single requirement of the democratic process. Process that may involve registered political parties and a political campaign; and it should definitely have a free and secret ballot with all constitutional guarantees approved by a duly established national electoral institution, leading to an election and the public inauguration of the winning candidate.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/who-needs ... ve/5666976

[banana chewits]

Venezuela has a shit system. Shit systems end up collapsing. Been happening since day one. People that support the shit systems always find someone else to blame.

Oh, and not shit systems dont collapse. Crazy eh? I can predict with near certainty that Norway won't collapse anytime soon. I must be a clairvoyant.

And if you're looking for a good recipe for cooked dog, ask a Venezuelan.

we had a not shit system & that's collapsing.

[Guest]

Venezuela has a shit system. Shit systems end up collapsing. Been happening since day one. People that support the shit systems always find someone else to blame.

Oh, and not shit systems dont collapse. Crazy eh? I can predict with near certainty that Norway won't collapse anytime soon. I must be a clairvoyant.

And if you're looking for a good recipe for cooked dog, ask a Venezuelan.

we had a not shit system & that's collapsing.

you really haven’t got a clue have you?

[Maddog]

Venezuela has a shit system. Shit systems end up collapsing. Been happening since day one. People that support the shit systems always find someone else to blame.

Oh, and not shit systems dont collapse. Crazy eh? I can predict with near certainty that Norway won't collapse anytime soon. I must be a clairvoyant.

And if you're looking for a good recipe for cooked dog, ask a Venezuelan.

we had a not shit system & that's collapsing.

You have a million refugees that have left the UK because they cant even get toilet paper to wipe their ass?

The UK is fine and will be fine for a little longer. A lot longer as long as they keep a handle on their debt. When governments start going broke is when all of trouble starts. And that act is purely down to bad domestic government, not a foreign government.

[wutang]

Venezuela has a shit system. Shit systems end up collapsing. Been happening since day one. People that support the shit systems always find someone else to blame.

If they collapse anyway then why the need to intervene?

Same with Cuba; if the system was shit and doomed to fail then why the need to embargo it for 40+ years?

If Socialism is a failure why sanctions countries like Venezuela and literally steal their money?

[wutang]

Oh, and not shit systems dont collapse. Crazy eh? I can predict with near certainty that Norway won't collapse anytime soon. I must be a clairvoyant.

It that because they are joined to the hip of the EU? they pay for the priviledge of having the EU tell them what to do.

Are you suggesting this is a system to emulate? the Brexit crowd wouldn't be happy with that

[Maddog]

Venezuela has a shit system. Shit systems end up collapsing. Been happening since day one. People that support the shit systems always find someone else to blame.

If they collapse anyway then why the need to intervene?

Same with Cuba; if the system was shit and doomed to fail then why the need to embargo it for 40+ years?

If Socialism is a failure why sanctions countries like Venezuela and literally steal their money?

I dont disagree. It's like kicking a man dying of cancer. I guess the idea is to make sure the next government likes our government and not a government that doesn't like our government.

I won't disagree that innocent people are pawns in these geopolitical games. Best to have a functioning government and economy to ward off this nonsense.

[Maddog]

Oh, and not shit systems dont collapse. Crazy eh? I can predict with near certainty that Norway won't collapse anytime soon. I must be a clairvoyant.

It that because they are joined to the hip of the EU? they pay for the priviledge of having the EU tell them what to do.

Are you suggesting this is a system to emulate? the Brexit crowd wouldn't be happy with that

I would emulate Switzerland. I would avoid emulating Eastern Europe when attached to the Soviets hip's. Dont want to be the next Poland brought down 30 years ago by the CIA.