Coup in Venezuela

Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:30 pm





The Tienditas Bridge “blockade” Or how to turn an unopened bridge into an international news story to build support for your coup

https://medium.com/@justin.emery/the-ti ... 40728fe5f7

More msm lies to benefit the 'official narrative'. :shake head:
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:35 pm

calitom wrote:Jack---if you were starving under a regime you would want someone to interfere. Some common sense will tell most of us that.
Get Maduro out of there somehow and the misery in that country will go down.
There are tons of Venezuelans in California. Several of which I know well. They all WANT foreign interference because their relatives are starving and dying of untreated disease AND they have a great deal of trouble getting aid to them.
Lets not over complicate this.Without foreign interference of some kind you leave the only option a bloody civil war.
Venezuelas people are highly educated.Their resources are vast. They shouldn't be allowed to starve under a stupid psycho dictator .


It was foreign interference that caused the the problem. US interference.

Ever heard of or read the book 'Confessions of an economic hit man'?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?source= ... X6gjbCYLt0
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:41 pm

An Open Letter To The People Of The U.S. From President Nicolás Maduro

Venezuela is a country that, by virtue of its 1999 Constitution, has broadly expanded the participatory and protagonist democracy of the people, and that in an unprecedented way so that today Venezuela is one of the countries that has held the largest number of elections in the last 20 years. You may not like our ideology or how our society looks, but we exist and we are millions.

The political intolerance toward the Venezuelan Bolivarian model and the desires for our immense oil resources, minerals and other great riches have prompted an international coalition headed by the U.S. government to commit the serious insanity of waging a military attack on Venezuela under the pretext of a nonexistent humanitarian crisis.

The people of Venezuela have painfully suffered social wounds caused by a criminal commercial and financial blockade, which has been aggravated by the dispossession and robbery of our financial resources and assets in countries aligned with this demented onslaught.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51082.htm
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:13 pm

US AIR FREIGHT COMPANY THAT SMUGGLED WEAPONS INTO VENEZUELA LINKED TO CIA “BLACK SITE” RENDITIONS

The parallels between aspects of the Contra scandal and the current situation in Venezuela are striking, particularly given the recent “outrage” voiced by mainstream media and prominent U.S. politicians over Maduro’s refusal to allow U.S. “humanitarian aid” into the country.

Two executives at the company that chartered the U.S. plane that was caught smuggling weapons into Venezuela last week have been tied to an air cargo company that aided the CIA in the rendition of alleged terrorists to “black site” centers for interrogation. The troubling revelation comes as Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has rejected a U.S. “humanitarian aid” convoy over concerns that it could contain weapons meant to arm the country’s U.S.-backed opposition.

Last Tuesday, Venezuelan authorities announced that 19 rifles, 118 ammo magazines, 90 radios and six iPhones had been smuggled into the country via a U.S. plane that had originated in Miami. The authorities blamed the United States government for the illicit cargo, accusing it of seeking to arm U.S.-funded opposition groups in the country in order to topple the current Maduro-led government.

A subsequent investigation into the plane responsible for the weapons caché conducted by McClatchyDC received very little media attention despite the fact that it uncovered information clearly showing that the plane responsible for the shipment had been making an unusually high number of trips to Venezuela and neighboring Colombia over the past few weeks.

https://southfront.org/us-air-freight-c ... enditions/

msm on the ball again then. :roll:
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:22 pm



Venezuela Envoy Elliott Abrams Lose His Cool During Tense Exchange With Rep. Ilhan Omar

"Mr. Abrams, in 1991 you pleaded guilty to two counts of withholding information from Congress regarding your involvement in the Iran-Contra affair, for which you were later pardoned by president George H.W. Bush," began Omar. "I fail to understand why members of this committee or the American people should find any testimony that you give today to be truthful."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51105.htm

Trump's Neocon?

Elliott Abrams is reportedly under consideration as the nation’s No. 2 diplomat—an appointment that would be somewhat surprising for both Abrams and the president.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ms/515784/

Only the best for the Trump regime...
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:10 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Venezuela: From Oil Proxy to the Bolivarian Movement and Sabotage.
Abysmal Poverty under US Proxy Rule (1918-1998)

..... a study on poverty in 1975 as Advisor to the Venezuelan Minister of Planning.
The study commissioned by the Ministry of Planning (CORDIPLAN) (involving an interdisciplinary research team) headed by Michel Chossudovsky was entitled: “Venezuela: La Mapa de la Pobreza”. (Venezuela: The Poverty Map)
Upon its release, the draft report was confiscated by the Minister of Planning. It was subsequently shelved on orders of the Cabinet (Consejo de Ministros) of President Carlos Perez.
It also addressed the role of government policy.


Venezuela’s oil wealth was not used to build schools and hospitals. The oil surplus was largely recycled into the hands of the oil giants and the local elites.


In the period prior to the Bolivarian Revolution, extending into the 1990s, the levels of poverty were abysmally high.
“More than 70 percent of the Venezuelan population did not meet minimum calorie and protein requirements, while approximately 45 percent were suffering from extreme undernourishment.

More than half of Venezuelan children suffered from some degree of malnutrition.

Infant mortality was exceedingly high.

23 percent of the Venezuelan population was illiterate. The rate of functional illiteracy was of the order of 42%.

One child in four was totally marginalized from the educational system (not even registered in the first grade of primary school).

More than half the children of school age never entered high school.

A majority of the population had little or no access to health care services.

Half the urban population had no access to an adequate system of running water within their home.

Unemployment was rampant.

More than 30 percent of the total workforce was unemployed or underemployed, while 67 percent of those employed in non-agricultural activities received a salary which did not enable them to meet basic human needs (food, health, housing, clothing, etc.).

Three-quarters of the labor force were receiving revenues below the minimum subsistence wage.”


https://www.globalresearch.ca/venezuela ... ge/5667366


Thanks! You have illustrated my point entirely, the ruling elite have crapped all over their people for decades right up until today --small wonder people want change.
And yet we see Felch fighting hard to keep the people oppressed, poor and under threat of death if they complain.
Felch is supporting a South American Saddam --uncanny resemblance too --and that is just so unfair to the Venezuelan people.
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:16 pm

Fletch wrote:An Open Letter To The People Of The U.S. From President Nicolás Maduro

Venezuela is a country that, by virtue of its 1999 Constitution, has broadly expanded the participatory and protagonist democracy of the people, and that in an unprecedented way so that today Venezuela is one of the countries that has held the largest number of elections in the last 20 years. You may not like our ideology or how our society looks, but we exist and we are millions.

The political intolerance toward the Venezuelan Bolivarian model and the desires for our immense oil resources, minerals and other great riches have prompted an international coalition headed by the U.S. government to commit the serious insanity of waging a military attack on Venezuela under the pretext of a nonexistent humanitarian crisis.

The people of Venezuela have painfully suffered social wounds caused by a criminal commercial and financial blockade, which has been aggravated by the dispossession and robbery of our financial resources and assets in countries aligned with this demented onslaught.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51082.htm


I love the way Rollup's latest post highlighted all the wealth from oil was not spent on schools hospitals infrastructure etc etc but rather on the elite.
Small wonder that the Saddam Of South America --uncanny resemblance by the way--is refusing to take the blame for the hyperinflation, economic disaster and the plight of his long suffering people.
Blaming the US? What a wonderful way to deflect away from his corrupt mishandling of Venezuela.
The Fact you think him a good president, even though he will use the military to crush his own suffering people, highlights the fact you are a true idiot Felch
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:51 pm

LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:An Open Letter To The People Of The U.S. From President Nicolás Maduro

Venezuela is a country that, by virtue of its 1999 Constitution, has broadly expanded the participatory and protagonist democracy of the people, and that in an unprecedented way so that today Venezuela is one of the countries that has held the largest number of elections in the last 20 years. You may not like our ideology or how our society looks, but we exist and we are millions.

The political intolerance toward the Venezuelan Bolivarian model and the desires for our immense oil resources, minerals and other great riches have prompted an international coalition headed by the U.S. government to commit the serious insanity of waging a military attack on Venezuela under the pretext of a nonexistent humanitarian crisis.

The people of Venezuela have painfully suffered social wounds caused by a criminal commercial and financial blockade, which has been aggravated by the dispossession and robbery of our financial resources and assets in countries aligned with this demented onslaught.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51082.htm


I love the way Rollup's latest post highlighted all the wealth from oil was not spent on schools hospitals infrastructure etc etc but rather on the elite.
Small wonder that the Saddam Of South America --uncanny resemblance by the way--is refusing to take the blame for the hyperinflation, economic disaster and the plight of his long suffering people.
Blaming the US? What a wonderful way to deflect away from his corrupt mishandling of Venezuela.
The Fact you think him a good president, even though he will use the military to crush his own suffering people, highlights the fact you are a true idiot Felch

Fuck me you never seem to understand what you're presented with.
He's talking about nineteen fucking seventy five!
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:57 pm

The situation was similar to Libya.
Libya was the poorest country on earth yet the west were pumping billions of dollars from the ground and making off with it.
The good old colonel was outraged and as a young man it was very courageous to approach more senior military men and say this has to stop we need to overthrow the government and make that wealth go to the people of Libya.
In npo time all children had shoes education fresh water wholesome food and hope. It became the wealthiest nation on the African continent and possibly the wealthiest population ever seen out there.
Problem was the west were not going to allow it to survive.
They aren't going to let it survive anywhere in South America either.
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:58 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:An Open Letter To The People Of The U.S. From President Nicolás Maduro

Venezuela is a country that, by virtue of its 1999 Constitution, has broadly expanded the participatory and protagonist democracy of the people, and that in an unprecedented way so that today Venezuela is one of the countries that has held the largest number of elections in the last 20 years. You may not like our ideology or how our society looks, but we exist and we are millions.

The political intolerance toward the Venezuelan Bolivarian model and the desires for our immense oil resources, minerals and other great riches have prompted an international coalition headed by the U.S. government to commit the serious insanity of waging a military attack on Venezuela under the pretext of a nonexistent humanitarian crisis.

The people of Venezuela have painfully suffered social wounds caused by a criminal commercial and financial blockade, which has been aggravated by the dispossession and robbery of our financial resources and assets in countries aligned with this demented onslaught.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51082.htm


I love the way Rollup's latest post highlighted all the wealth from oil was not spent on schools hospitals infrastructure etc etc but rather on the elite.
Small wonder that the Saddam Of South America --uncanny resemblance by the way--is refusing to take the blame for the hyperinflation, economic disaster and the plight of his long suffering people.
Blaming the US? What a wonderful way to deflect away from his corrupt mishandling of Venezuela.
The Fact you think him a good president, even though he will use the military to crush his own suffering people, highlights the fact you are a true idiot Felch

Fuck me you never seem to understand what you're presented with.
He's talking about nineteen fucking seventy five!

Read the dates in your piece ffs!!! Are you really stupid or what?
Go on, please tell me--just like your mate Felch -- that the leaders of Venezuela have really looked after their people well over the last few decades :again?:
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:00 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:The situation was similar to Libya.
Libya was the poorest country on earth yet the west were pumping billions of dollars from the ground and making off with it.
The good old colonel was outraged and as a young man it was very courageous to approach more senior military men and say this has to stop we need to overthrow the government and make that wealth go to the people of Libya.
In npo time all children had shoes education fresh water wholesome food and hope. It became the wealthiest nation on the African continent and possibly the wealthiest population ever seen out there.
Problem was the west were not going to allow it to survive.
They aren't going to let it survive anywhere in South America either.


So the west is to blame that the venezuelan elite kept all the oil wealth and refused to build schools hospitals infrastructure etc and now for the rampant inflation? Yes or no?
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:03 pm

LordRaven wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The situation was similar to Libya.
Libya was the poorest country on earth yet the west were pumping billions of dollars from the ground and making off with it.
The good old colonel was outraged and as a young man it was very courageous to approach more senior military men and say this has to stop we need to overthrow the government and make that wealth go to the people of Libya.
In npo time all children had shoes education fresh water wholesome food and hope. It became the wealthiest nation on the African continent and possibly the wealthiest population ever seen out there.
Problem was the west were not going to allow it to survive.
They aren't going to let it survive anywhere in South America either.


So the west is to blame that the venezuelan elite kept all the oil wealth and refused to build schools hospitals infrastructure etc and now for the rampant inflation? Yes or no?

Venezuela: From Oil Proxy to the Bolivarian Movement and Sabotage.
Abysmal Poverty under US Proxy Rule (1918-1998)

..... a study on poverty in 1975 as Advisor to the Venezuelan Minister of Planning.
The study commissioned by the Ministry of Planning (CORDIPLAN) (involving an interdisciplinary research team) headed by Michel Chossudovsky was entitled: “Venezuela: La Mapa de la Pobreza”. (Venezuela: The Poverty Map)
Upon its release, the draft report was confiscated by the Minister of Planning. It was subsequently shelved on orders of the Cabinet (Consejo de Ministros) of President Carlos Perez.
It also addressed the role of government policy.


Venezuela’s oil wealth was not used to build schools and hospitals. The oil surplus was largely recycled into the hands of the oil giants and the local elites.

In the period prior to the Bolivarian Revolution, extending into the 1990s, the levels of poverty were abysmally high.
“More than 70 percent of the Venezuelan population did not meet minimum calorie and protein requirements, while approximately 45 percent were suffering from extreme undernourishment.

More than half of Venezuelan children suffered from some degree of malnutrition.

Infant mortality was exceedingly high.

23 percent of the Venezuelan population was illiterate. The rate of functional illiteracy was of the order of 42%.

One child in four was totally marginalized from the educational system (not even registered in the first grade of primary school).

More than half the children of school age never entered high school.

A majority of the population had little or no access to health care services.

Half the urban population had no access to an adequate system of running water within their home.

Unemployment was rampant.

More than 30 percent of the total workforce was unemployed or underemployed, while 67 percent of those employed in non-agricultural activities received a salary which did not enable them to meet basic human needs (food, health, housing, clothing, etc.).

Three-quarters of the labor force were receiving revenues below the minimum subsistence wage.”
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:06 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The situation was similar to Libya.
Libya was the poorest country on earth yet the west were pumping billions of dollars from the ground and making off with it.
The good old colonel was outraged and as a young man it was very courageous to approach more senior military men and say this has to stop we need to overthrow the government and make that wealth go to the people of Libya.
In npo time all children had shoes education fresh water wholesome food and hope. It became the wealthiest nation on the African continent and possibly the wealthiest population ever seen out there.
Problem was the west were not going to allow it to survive.
They aren't going to let it survive anywhere in South America either.


So the west is to blame that the venezuelan elite kept all the oil wealth and refused to build schools hospitals infrastructure etc and now for the rampant inflation? Yes or no?

Venezuela: From Oil Proxy to the Bolivarian Movement and Sabotage.
Abysmal Poverty under US Proxy Rule (1918-1998)

..... a study on poverty in 1975 as Advisor to the Venezuelan Minister of Planning.
The study commissioned by the Ministry of Planning (CORDIPLAN) (involving an interdisciplinary research team) headed by Michel Chossudovsky was entitled: “Venezuela: La Mapa de la Pobreza”. (Venezuela: The Poverty Map)
Upon its release, the draft report was confiscated by the Minister of Planning. It was subsequently shelved on orders of the Cabinet (Consejo de Ministros) of President Carlos Perez.
It also addressed the role of government policy.


Venezuela’s oil wealth was not used to build schools and hospitals. The oil surplus was largely recycled into the hands of the oil giants and the local elites.

In the period prior to the Bolivarian Revolution, extending into the 1990s, the levels of poverty were abysmally high.
“More than 70 percent of the Venezuelan population did not meet minimum calorie and protein requirements, while approximately 45 percent were suffering from extreme undernourishment.

More than half of Venezuelan children suffered from some degree of malnutrition.

Infant mortality was exceedingly high.

23 percent of the Venezuelan population was illiterate. The rate of functional illiteracy was of the order of 42%.

One child in four was totally marginalized from the educational system (not even registered in the first grade of primary school).

More than half the children of school age never entered high school.

A majority of the population had little or no access to health care services.

Half the urban population had no access to an adequate system of running water within their home.

Unemployment was rampant.

More than 30 percent of the total workforce was unemployed or underemployed, while 67 percent of those employed in non-agricultural activities received a salary which did not enable them to meet basic human needs (food, health, housing, clothing, etc.).

Three-quarters of the labor force were receiving revenues below the minimum subsistence wage.”


Thanks for agreeing, Venezuelan Leaders have failed throughout history to put their own people first :thumbsup:
That continues and people are suffering, it is disgusting and small wonder they are leaving.
With hyper inflation and people being shot or arrested it is not a great place to live, staying means suffering
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby wutang » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:01 pm




Interesting list.

Norway, Denmark and Saudi Arabia all have bigger public sectors than Venezuela. Does that make them more socialist or less?

Also Singapore (which is often lauded by the right as proper capitalism) although that may be a result of the state owning 80% of the housing!!!! crazy commie bastards :ooer:
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:06 pm

LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:An Open Letter To The People Of The U.S. From President Nicolás Maduro

Venezuela is a country that, by virtue of its 1999 Constitution, has broadly expanded the participatory and protagonist democracy of the people, and that in an unprecedented way so that today Venezuela is one of the countries that has held the largest number of elections in the last 20 years. You may not like our ideology or how our society looks, but we exist and we are millions.

The political intolerance toward the Venezuelan Bolivarian model and the desires for our immense oil resources, minerals and other great riches have prompted an international coalition headed by the U.S. government to commit the serious insanity of waging a military attack on Venezuela under the pretext of a nonexistent humanitarian crisis.

The people of Venezuela have painfully suffered social wounds caused by a criminal commercial and financial blockade, which has been aggravated by the dispossession and robbery of our financial resources and assets in countries aligned with this demented onslaught.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51082.htm


I love the way Rollup's latest post highlighted all the wealth from oil was not spent on schools hospitals infrastructure etc etc but rather on the elite.
Small wonder that the Saddam Of South America --uncanny resemblance by the way--is refusing to take the blame for the hyperinflation, economic disaster and the plight of his long suffering people.
Blaming the US? What a wonderful way to deflect away from his corrupt mishandling of Venezuela.
The Fact you think him a good president, even though he will use the military to crush his own suffering people, highlights the fact you are a true idiot Felch


I simply don't believe in interfering in another countries lawful government/leadership. Look at regime change results enacted by the US and it's western chums to date and see the results. If you still think regime change is a good idea you're even more daft than I thought you were.
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