Coup in Venezuela

Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:14 pm

Rollups post highlighted what the plasce was like when it was basically run as a free for all by western corporations.
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:18 pm

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Rolluplostinspace wrote:Venezuela: From Oil Proxy to the Bolivarian Movement and Sabotage.
Abysmal Poverty under US Proxy Rule (1918-1998)

..... a study on poverty in 1975 as Advisor to the Venezuelan Minister of Planning.
The study commissioned by the Ministry of Planning (CORDIPLAN) (involving an interdisciplinary research team) headed by Michel Chossudovsky was entitled: “Venezuela: La Mapa de la Pobreza”. (Venezuela: The Poverty Map)
Upon its release, the draft report was confiscated by the Minister of Planning. It was subsequently shelved on orders of the Cabinet (Consejo de Ministros) of President Carlos Perez.
It also addressed the role of government policy.


Venezuela’s oil wealth was not used to build schools and hospitals. The oil surplus was largely recycled into the hands of the oil giants and the local elites.

In the period prior to the Bolivarian Revolution, extending into the 1990s, the levels of poverty were abysmally high.
“More than 70 percent of the Venezuelan population did not meet minimum calorie and protein requirements, while approximately 45 percent were suffering from extreme undernourishment.

More than half of Venezuelan children suffered from some degree of malnutrition.

Infant mortality was exceedingly high.

23 percent of the Venezuelan population was illiterate. The rate of functional illiteracy was of the order of 42%.

One child in four was totally marginalized from the educational system (not even registered in the first grade of primary school).

More than half the children of school age never entered high school.

A majority of the population had little or no access to health care services.

Half the urban population had no access to an adequate system of running water within their home.

Unemployment was rampant.

More than 30 percent of the total workforce was unemployed or underemployed, while 67 percent of those employed in non-agricultural activities received a salary which did not enable them to meet basic human needs (food, health, housing, clothing, etc.).

Three-quarters of the labor force were receiving revenues below the minimum subsistence wage.”


Thanks for agreeing, Venezuelan Leaders have failed throughout history to put their own people first :thumbsup:
That continues and people are suffering, it is disgusting and small wonder they are leaving.
With hyper inflation and people being shot or arrested it is not a great place to live, staying means suffering


This under western style capitalism.

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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:51 pm

Investigating Venezuela’s Hunger Crisis: Max Blumenthal Tours a Supermarket in Caracas

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The corporate media claims Venezuela has no basic food or supplies, so The Grayzone investigated — at a giant supermarket in Caracas.

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Socialism all over the shop... :roll:
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:04 pm

Pompeo keeps open military option for Venezuela

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Sunday pressured Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro's regime to back down as unrest in the country escalates, saying military interference is not off the table.

"Every option is on the table," Pompeo said on "Fox News Sunday" when asked whether the U.S. is considering a military option in Venezuela. "He added that the U.S. is "going to do the things that need to be done to make sure that the Venezuelan people's voice" is heard, that "democracy reigns" in the county and that there is "a brighter future for the people of Venezuela."

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/ ... ro-1182515

The threat comes just Guaido announced he would attend a summit of the Lima Group – a meeting of 12 American states which have recognized him as "legitimate" leader of Venezuela.

Crucially, Guaido is to meet with US Vice President Mike Pence at the summit where he will “propose formally to the international community that we should keep open all options for the liberation of our homeland, which is fighting and will continue to fight,” according to a tweeted statement Saturday evening.

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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:58 pm

Pink Floyd’s Roger Waters Slams Richard Branson for Fronting US Trojan-Horse “Aid” to Venezuela

“It has nothing to do with the needs of the Venezuelan people. It has nothing to do with democracy. It has nothing to do with freedom. And it has nothing to do with aid.” — Roger Waters on the Richard Branson “aid” concert

https://www.mintpressnews.com/roger-wat ... la/255460/

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Re: Coup in Venezuela

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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:38 am

Fletch wrote:Investigating Venezuela’s Hunger Crisis: Max Blumenthal Tours a Supermarket in Caracas

Watch

The corporate media claims Venezuela has no basic food or supplies, so The Grayzone investigated — at a giant supermarket in Caracas.

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Socialism all over the shop... :roll:



Grayzone — The Grayzone toured open air markets in Caracas full of food and supplies subsidized by the Venezuelan government, which debunk the “humanitarian crisis” lie spread by corporate media.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/venezuela ... ts/255484/

I wonder what the people of Venezuela think of British food banks.
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:48 pm

It's troubling Jack that so may are guided by what the msm or western governments tell them rather than the truth. Truth that is freely available all over the internet and in foreign press. Truth that includes pictures, film, documents and reports from credible journalists/sources. Just not the Sun, Mail, BBC or Sky.

There are even posters here who rely on 'Socialism failure' or 'Corbyn's favourite Socialist country' but are nowhere to be seen when film of the reality is shown. :roll:
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:52 pm

Pence, Guaidó Fail to Secure Lima Group Approval for US Military Intervention in Venezuela

Given recent statements from Guaidó and top U.S. officials – as well as the recent death threat against Maduro voiced by U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) via Twitter – it seems that if the U.S. is determined to use military means to topple Maduro, it will likely have to do so unilaterally or clandestinely.

On Sunday, the U.S.-backed and self-declared “interim president” of Venezuela, Juan Guaidó, announced that he would meet with the Lima Group on Monday to “formally propose” keeping “all options open” for the “liberation” of Venezuela. The Lima Group, composed of the U.S. and its allies and client states in the Americas, have all recognized Guaidó as the “legitimate” leader of Venezuela.

Some members of the Lima Group, however, have already announced that they are unwilling to endorse a military response to the Venezuelan crisis. On Monday, Peru’s Vice Foreign Minister Hugo de Zela Martínez stated at the beginning of the Lima Group conference that “the use of force, in any of its forms, is unacceptable” and that “the use of force is not a solution for what’s happening in Venezuela.”

https://www.mintpressnews.com/pence-gua ... la/255507/

Oh dear, what a shame.

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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:00 pm

Burning Aid: An Interventionist Deception on Colombia-Venezuela Bridge?

Sen. Marco Rubio and coup leaders claim the Venezuelan National Guard burned US aid trucks on the bridge in Colombia. But all available evidence points in the opposite direction.

The Trump administration’s coup against Venezuela culminated on February 23 with US-backed opposition attempting to ram several trucks loaded with boxes of USAID “humanitarian aid” across the previously unused Francisco de Paula Santander bridge connecting Colombia to Venezuela.

The trucks failed to reach the other side — but that was never really the point of the stunt. As Father Sergio Munoz, a right-wing Venezuelan activist posted on the Colombian side of the border, explained to journalist Dan Cohen, the humanitarian “aid” was a purely symbolic provocation aimed at discrediting Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro in international eyes and generating waves of destabilizing violence.

By the end of the day, the trucks lined up on the Francisca de Paula Santander bridge were flanked by gangs of guarimberos.

These were the nihilistic masked youth who form the shock troops of the right-wing opposition, and who placed Caracas under siege with violent barricade protests, known as guarimbas, at several points between 2014 and 2017. A mob of guarimberos burned to death Orlando Figuera, a 22-year old black Venezuelan accused of supporting Maduro, on an eastern Caracas street in broad daylight, back in June 2017.

On the Santander bridge this February 23, the guarimberos rained down a hail of rocks and molotov cocktails on Venezuelan national guardsmen holding the line against the USAID trucks. Suddenly, the trucks caught fire and the masked youth began unloading boxes of aid before they burned. Within minutes, pro-opposition media reported that the Venezuelan national guard forces were responsible for the fires.

A reporter for the private anti-government channel NTN24 claimed without evidence that the Venezuelan security forces had caused the fires with tear gas:

Colombian writer Humberto Ortiz produced footage from a pro-opposition channel showing what appears to be the exact moment when a guarimbero sets the aid on fire with a molotov cocktail:



Telesur reporter Madelein Garcia published photographs showing a guarimbero with a gas canister next to one of the burning trucks:

Drone footage also published by Garcia shows how far away the trucks were from Venezuelan national guardsmen when they caught fire, and demonstrates that they were clearly on the Colombian side of the border:

Even Bloomberg News, which has run a relentless stream of pro-opposition reports, published video showing guarimberos on the bridge making molotov cocktails, which could easily set a truck cabin or its cargo alight:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51160.htm

other videos on link.
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:20 pm

Codepink Disrupts Venezuela’s Illegitimate ‘US Ambassador’

February 22, 2019 "Information Clearing House" - Anti-war activists disrupted an event in Washington, DC featuring Carlos Vecchio, the illegitimate “US ambassador” appointed by Venezuela’s right-wing coup regime and its Trump-selected leader Juan Guaidó.

CODEPINK co-founder Medea Benjamin walked on stage at the February 21 event and grabbed the mic: “These people are a fraud. They don’t represent the Venezuelan people. They are representing the US-orchestrated coup,” she said.

“These people here want to take Venezuela to a path of civil war and US intervention ” Benjamin continued.

..... just disrupted Carlos Vecchio, illegitimate Venezuelan “president” Juan Guaido’s envoy to the US. The US is facilitating a coup that may very well lead to a civil war. We say: no coup, no civil war, no imperialism! #HandsOffVenezuela.

Vecchio, Guaidó, and Venezuela’s right-wing coup operatives have been working closely with the US government to plan a stunt on the Colombia border on February 23, hyping a fabricated “humanitarian crisis” to justify US military intervention.

“This is a very dangerous situation. They want to create a crisis at the border that would be a justification for US intervention,” Benjamin explained in her speech.



“This has nothing to do with a humanitarian situation. Indeed, for a humanitarian situation, the US would lift the economic sanctions that have exacerbated the crisis,” she said.
“The issue at the border now is something that is politicizing humanitarian aid,” Benjamin explained. “That is why the Red Cross, the United Nations, and all the legitimate humanitarian groups have insisted that they will not touch with this aid.”
>>>>> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51151.htm
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby Fletch » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:27 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Grayzone — The Grayzone toured open air markets in Caracas full of food and supplies subsidized by the Venezuelan government, which debunk the “humanitarian crisis” lie spread by corporate media.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/venezuela ... ts/255484/

I wonder what the people of Venezuela think of British food banks.


Inside Venezuela’s state-subsidized communal markets

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The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal toured open air markets in Caracas full of food and supplies subsidized by the Venezuelan government, which debunk the "humanitarian crisis" lie spread by corporate media.

Posted February 16, 2019

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51170.htm
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:00 pm

Fletch wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Venezuela: From Oil Proxy to the Bolivarian Movement and Sabotage.
Abysmal Poverty under US Proxy Rule (1918-1998)

..... a study on poverty in 1975 as Advisor to the Venezuelan Minister of Planning.
The study commissioned by the Ministry of Planning (CORDIPLAN) (involving an interdisciplinary research team) headed by Michel Chossudovsky was entitled: “Venezuela: La Mapa de la Pobreza”. (Venezuela: The Poverty Map)
Upon its release, the draft report was confiscated by the Minister of Planning. It was subsequently shelved on orders of the Cabinet (Consejo de Ministros) of President Carlos Perez.
It also addressed the role of government policy.


Venezuela’s oil wealth was not used to build schools and hospitals. The oil surplus was largely recycled into the hands of the oil giants and the local elites.

In the period prior to the Bolivarian Revolution, extending into the 1990s, the levels of poverty were abysmally high.
“More than 70 percent of the Venezuelan population did not meet minimum calorie and protein requirements, while approximately 45 percent were suffering from extreme undernourishment.

More than half of Venezuelan children suffered from some degree of malnutrition.

Infant mortality was exceedingly high.

23 percent of the Venezuelan population was illiterate. The rate of functional illiteracy was of the order of 42%.

One child in four was totally marginalized from the educational system (not even registered in the first grade of primary school).

More than half the children of school age never entered high school.

A majority of the population had little or no access to health care services.

Half the urban population had no access to an adequate system of running water within their home.

Unemployment was rampant.

More than 30 percent of the total workforce was unemployed or underemployed, while 67 percent of those employed in non-agricultural activities received a salary which did not enable them to meet basic human needs (food, health, housing, clothing, etc.).

Three-quarters of the labor force were receiving revenues below the minimum subsistence wage.”


Thanks for agreeing, Venezuelan Leaders have failed throughout history to put their own people first :thumbsup:
That continues and people are suffering, it is disgusting and small wonder they are leaving.
With hyper inflation and people being shot or arrested it is not a great place to live, staying means suffering


This under western style capitalism.

(as Jack said)

Good god you really are so desperate to quote anything that supports your warped view of the world. You might as well quote a bloke down the pub :gigglesnshit:
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby LordRaven » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:02 pm

Fletch wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Grayzone — The Grayzone toured open air markets in Caracas full of food and supplies subsidized by the Venezuelan government, which debunk the “humanitarian crisis” lie spread by corporate media.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/venezuela ... ts/255484/

I wonder what the people of Venezuela think of British food banks.


Inside Venezuela’s state-subsidized communal markets

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The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal toured open air markets in Caracas full of food and supplies subsidized by the Venezuelan government, which debunk the "humanitarian crisis" lie spread by corporate media.

Posted February 16, 2019

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51170.htm



Visitors to North Korea are shown similar Government orchestrated stuff for propaganda purposes you dumbass :pmsl:
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Re: Coup in Venezuela

Postby art0hur0moh » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:45 am

asked My Son to get Me some hash. He said no! He could get Me coke. the same thing in 2003 except it was heroin. tells Me everything I need to know :again?:
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