Rocthedog wrote:Corbyn red faced last night in defeat. Brexit coming whether the labourites on this site like it or not. Teresa May winning the votes stuffed Corbyn well and truly. His demand for taking no deal off the table is a load of bollocks, were out whether there is a deal or no deal. Roll on end of March and this country can get back to governing itself. Two weeks ago I spke to a daughter of a Dutch flower grower. She told me her mother and father are worried stiff. They believe the hard stance of the EU are the problem. I spend a lot of time in Europe and there is a growing feeling that a deal with Britain should be done. WEll we will see where it goes from now.
Rocthedog wrote:Corbyn red faced last night in defeat. Brexit coming whether the labourites on this site like it or not. Teresa May winning the votes stuffed Corbyn well and truly. His demand for taking no deal off the table is a load of bollocks, were out whether there is a deal or no deal. Roll on end of March and this country can get back to governing itself. Two weeks ago I spke to a daughter of a Dutch flower grower. She told me her mother and father are worried stiff. They believe the hard stance of the EU are the problem. I spend a lot of time in Europe and there is a growing feeling that a deal with Britain should be done. WEll we will see where it goes from now.
Cannydc wrote:They aren't being intransigent, they have pointed out the 4 freedoms which cannot and will not be breached, and the NI border requirements to comply, for nearly 3 years.
Cobs wrote:Cannydc wrote:They aren't being intransigent, they have pointed out the 4 freedoms which cannot and will not be breached, and the NI border requirements to comply, for nearly 3 years.
Totally Intransigent then. But the UK needs to decide what it wants...
You can understand why people are confused.
Cannydc wrote:Rocthedog wrote:Corbyn red faced last night in defeat. Brexit coming whether the labourites on this site like it or not. Teresa May winning the votes stuffed Corbyn well and truly. His demand for taking no deal off the table is a load of bollocks, were out whether there is a deal or no deal. Roll on end of March and this country can get back to governing itself. Two weeks ago I spke to a daughter of a Dutch flower grower. She told me her mother and father are worried stiff. They believe the hard stance of the EU are the problem. I spend a lot of time in Europe and there is a growing feeling that a deal with Britain should be done. WEll we will see where it goes from now.
Hilarious stuff.
Especially the Tory Brexit secretary being repeatedly asked what the "alternative arrangements" are for the NI Border.
What a clown - there aren't any, the technology doesn't exist and he knows it yet Treeza is going to the EU saying we will use it. Utterly idiotic and the EU know it.
They aren't being intransigent, they have pointed out the 4 freedoms which cannot and will not be breached, and the NI border requirements to comply, for nearly 3 years.
As for Corbyn being red faced - he was never going to win a vote with the DUP (who still believe in unicorns, seemingly) voting with the Tories. All Treeza has done is kicked the can down the road again, when she comes home with nowt again the next big test vote will be waiting for her. A People's Vote looms ever closer, as May will never be allowed to go through with No Deal by Parliament. Of course, her own rebels won't let her current deal through unchanged - and it will to all intents and purposes be unchanged.
The Dutch will be scared of No Deal, as will Spain - the fresh flowers and salad veg will rot at Dover. But that won't happen.
Cobs wrote:I do feel for them, it's such a shitty situation.
I have zoned out a bit tbh, there's only so high tension politics you can take.
Hope you get your way but it's looking very close to no deal.
Maybe they'll find a new word for it.
Rocthedog wrote:Cannydc wrote:Rocthedog wrote:Corbyn red faced last night in defeat. Brexit coming whether the labourites on this site like it or not. Teresa May winning the votes stuffed Corbyn well and truly. His demand for taking no deal off the table is a load of bollocks, were out whether there is a deal or no deal. Roll on end of March and this country can get back to governing itself. Two weeks ago I spke to a daughter of a Dutch flower grower. She told me her mother and father are worried stiff. They believe the hard stance of the EU are the problem. I spend a lot of time in Europe and there is a growing feeling that a deal with Britain should be done. WEll we will see where it goes from now.
Hilarious stuff.
Especially the Tory Brexit secretary being repeatedly asked what the "alternative arrangements" are for the NI Border.
What a clown - there aren't any, the technology doesn't exist and he knows it yet Treeza is going to the EU saying we will use it. Utterly idiotic and the EU know it.
They aren't being intransigent, they have pointed out the 4 freedoms which cannot and will not be breached, and the NI border requirements to comply, for nearly 3 years.
As for Corbyn being red faced - he was never going to win a vote with the DUP (who still believe in unicorns, seemingly) voting with the Tories. All Treeza has done is kicked the can down the road again, when she comes home with nowt again the next big test vote will be waiting for her. A People's Vote looms ever closer, as May will never be allowed to go through with No Deal by Parliament. Of course, her own rebels won't let her current deal through unchanged - and it will to all intents and purposes be unchanged.
The Dutch will be scared of No Deal, as will Spain - the fresh flowers and salad veg will rot at Dover. But that won't happen.
Mmm Strange, You say Corbyn was never going to win his amendment, what the fuck was he doing laying one down then. He and many with him are just wreckers and are being found out. Corbyn has said on previous PM question times, he will never agree to any deal T.May brings to parliament. So why the fuck does she bother with that fucking communist prat. 553 times he voted against his own party don't that tell you he has a screw loose. Mind you it could be his communist training.
Labour should find themselves another leader he is fucking useless. Keir stammer would be better, at least he would dump that idiot who fucks up all the time on question Diane the dumb Abbott. Good luck trying to win an election with that pair and that other communist Mcdonut.
Stooo wrote:Rocthedog wrote:Cannydc wrote:Rocthedog wrote:Corbyn red faced last night in defeat. Brexit coming whether the labourites on this site like it or not. Teresa May winning the votes stuffed Corbyn well and truly. His demand for taking no deal off the table is a load of bollocks, were out whether there is a deal or no deal. Roll on end of March and this country can get back to governing itself. Two weeks ago I spke to a daughter of a Dutch flower grower. She told me her mother and father are worried stiff. They believe the hard stance of the EU are the problem. I spend a lot of time in Europe and there is a growing feeling that a deal with Britain should be done. WEll we will see where it goes from now.
Hilarious stuff.
Especially the Tory Brexit secretary being repeatedly asked what the "alternative arrangements" are for the NI Border.
What a clown - there aren't any, the technology doesn't exist and he knows it yet Treeza is going to the EU saying we will use it. Utterly idiotic and the EU know it.
They aren't being intransigent, they have pointed out the 4 freedoms which cannot and will not be breached, and the NI border requirements to comply, for nearly 3 years.
As for Corbyn being red faced - he was never going to win a vote with the DUP (who still believe in unicorns, seemingly) voting with the Tories. All Treeza has done is kicked the can down the road again, when she comes home with nowt again the next big test vote will be waiting for her. A People's Vote looms ever closer, as May will never be allowed to go through with No Deal by Parliament. Of course, her own rebels won't let her current deal through unchanged - and it will to all intents and purposes be unchanged.
The Dutch will be scared of No Deal, as will Spain - the fresh flowers and salad veg will rot at Dover. But that won't happen.
Mmm Strange, You say Corbyn was never going to win his amendment, what the fuck was he doing laying one down then. He and many with him are just wreckers and are being found out. Corbyn has said on previous PM question times, he will never agree to any deal T.May brings to parliament. So why the fuck does she bother with that fucking communist prat. 553 times he voted against his own party don't that tell you he has a screw loose. Mind you it could be his communist training.
Labour should find themselves another leader he is fucking useless. Keir stammer would be better, at least he would dump that idiot who fucks up all the time on question Diane the dumb Abbott. Good luck trying to win an election with that pair and that other communist Mcdonut.
UKIP voted him in...
Rocthedog wrote:Cannydc wrote:Rocthedog wrote:Corbyn red faced last night in defeat. Brexit coming whether the labourites on this site like it or not. Teresa May winning the votes stuffed Corbyn well and truly. His demand for taking no deal off the table is a load of bollocks, were out whether there is a deal or no deal. Roll on end of March and this country can get back to governing itself. Two weeks ago I spke to a daughter of a Dutch flower grower. She told me her mother and father are worried stiff. They believe the hard stance of the EU are the problem. I spend a lot of time in Europe and there is a growing feeling that a deal with Britain should be done. WEll we will see where it goes from now.
Hilarious stuff.
Especially the Tory Brexit secretary being repeatedly asked what the "alternative arrangements" are for the NI Border.
What a clown - there aren't any, the technology doesn't exist and he knows it yet Treeza is going to the EU saying we will use it. Utterly idiotic and the EU know it.
They aren't being intransigent, they have pointed out the 4 freedoms which cannot and will not be breached, and the NI border requirements to comply, for nearly 3 years.
As for Corbyn being red faced - he was never going to win a vote with the DUP (who still believe in unicorns, seemingly) voting with the Tories. All Treeza has done is kicked the can down the road again, when she comes home with nowt again the next big test vote will be waiting for her. A People's Vote looms ever closer, as May will never be allowed to go through with No Deal by Parliament. Of course, her own rebels won't let her current deal through unchanged - and it will to all intents and purposes be unchanged.
The Dutch will be scared of No Deal, as will Spain - the fresh flowers and salad veg will rot at Dover. But that won't happen.
Mmm Strange, You say Corbyn was never going to win his amendment, what the fuck was he doing laying one down then. He and many with him are just wreckers and are being found out. Corbyn has said on previous PM question times, he will never agree to any deal T.May brings to parliament. So why the fuck does she bother with that fucking communist prat. 553 times he voted against his own party don't that tell you he has a screw loose. Mind you it could be his communist training.
Labour should find themselves another leader he is fucking useless. Keir stammer would be better, at least he would dump that idiot who fucks up all the time on question Diane the dumb Abbott. Good luck trying to win an election with that pair and that other communist Mcdonut.
Cannydc wrote:Rocthedog wrote:Cannydc wrote:Rocthedog wrote:Corbyn red faced last night in defeat. Brexit coming whether the labourites on this site like it or not. Teresa May winning the votes stuffed Corbyn well and truly. His demand for taking no deal off the table is a load of bollocks, were out whether there is a deal or no deal. Roll on end of March and this country can get back to governing itself. Two weeks ago I spke to a daughter of a Dutch flower grower. She told me her mother and father are worried stiff. They believe the hard stance of the EU are the problem. I spend a lot of time in Europe and there is a growing feeling that a deal with Britain should be done. WEll we will see where it goes from now.
Hilarious stuff.
Especially the Tory Brexit secretary being repeatedly asked what the "alternative arrangements" are for the NI Border.
What a clown - there aren't any, the technology doesn't exist and he knows it yet Treeza is going to the EU saying we will use it. Utterly idiotic and the EU know it.
They aren't being intransigent, they have pointed out the 4 freedoms which cannot and will not be breached, and the NI border requirements to comply, for nearly 3 years.
As for Corbyn being red faced - he was never going to win a vote with the DUP (who still believe in unicorns, seemingly) voting with the Tories. All Treeza has done is kicked the can down the road again, when she comes home with nowt again the next big test vote will be waiting for her. A People's Vote looms ever closer, as May will never be allowed to go through with No Deal by Parliament. Of course, her own rebels won't let her current deal through unchanged - and it will to all intents and purposes be unchanged.
The Dutch will be scared of No Deal, as will Spain - the fresh flowers and salad veg will rot at Dover. But that won't happen.
Mmm Strange, You say Corbyn was never going to win his amendment, what the fuck was he doing laying one down then. He and many with him are just wreckers and are being found out. Corbyn has said on previous PM question times, he will never agree to any deal T.May brings to parliament. So why the fuck does she bother with that fucking communist prat. 553 times he voted against his own party don't that tell you he has a screw loose. Mind you it could be his communist training.
Labour should find themselves another leader he is fucking useless. Keir stammer would be better, at least he would dump that idiot who fucks up all the time on question Diane the dumb Abbott. Good luck trying to win an election with that pair and that other communist Mcdonut.
Be honest - you don't really 'get' politics in any appreciable way, do you?
Just to help you though, opposition amendments are tabled to show parliament and the public where they stand on any issue.
Any government when MPs are whipped along party lines will win - the numbers can't lie. But the opposition statements have been heard and debated.
Hope that helped - something that won't happen by bringing ad-hominems into the debate.
Finally, here's the man himself - Mr Tory Brexit.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 1548850882
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