TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:46 pm

The terrorists with ships and planes have killed and maimed millions reduced cities to rubble and destroyed entire nations in the middle east but that's ok because that's us and we only slaughter innocent civilians on an industrial because we care.
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Cannydc » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:19 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:The terrorists with ships and planes have killed and maimed millions reduced cities to rubble and destroyed entire nations in the middle east but that's ok because that's us and we only slaughter innocent civilians on an industrial because we care.


We have killed one non-combatant on missions against ISIS.

Just one civilian was harmed in RAF airstrikes that killed more than than 4,000 enemy fighters in Iraq and Syria, the British government has claimed.

An estimated 4,013 Isis militants have died in four and a half years of bombing, with 302 surviving with injuries, according to Ministry of Defence (MOD) figures.

As previously posted on here by me - most RAF airstrikes are by unmanned drone, targets are pre-planned (often vehicle strikes) and ALWAYS away from civilian occupied areas.

Anyone believing that ISIS should be left to their own devices should be given the job of doing post mortems on the Azidi women and kids being dug out of mass graves.
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Cannydc » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:21 pm

Conservative MPs did not seem too concerned as Lady Warsi sounded the alarm that their party was institutionally riven with Islamophobia.

“I don’t really believe we have that big a problem,” said one former minister, who seemed surprised to be asked about the issue.

When 14 members of the party were suspended for allegedly Islamophobic comments on a Facebook group supporting Jacob Rees-Mogg, the response was to try to deflect attention on to Labour.

“Islamophobes have no place in the Tory party and it is encouraging that we have acted swiftly, unlike the socialists,” Rees-Mogg pronounced.

From much of the rest of the party, there has been a deafening silence. Brandon Lewis, the Conservative party chairman, responded to Warsi on Twitter accusing her of “missing out on key facts” about the party’s “clear process” and “swift action”.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ia-warning
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Lady Murasaki » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:23 am

jra wrote:
McAz wrote:
jra wrote:
McAz wrote:Having sympathy and empathy for men, women and children being blown to bits by Western forces does not mean one approves of revenge - civilised people of all faiths and none do so.

Granted, primitives revel in it.

But glad to hear that you feel that Jews and Christians can stay no matter what affinities they might have. :thumbsup:


The difference being is that Jews are not conducting terrorist attacks in the UK AFAIK.

True - they are too busy taking "revenge" on Palestinian children.


It works both ways. If the Arab states had their way, they would extinguish Israel from the face of the planet. Israel thought well 'We're not going to let that happen'. Anyway, getting back to the terrorist issue. Outside of the Middle East Israel is not responsible in general for terrorist attacks, unlike Muslim extremists following a warped version of Islam. Jewish people have generally integrated very well into UK society.


Integration is a two way thing. Jewish people may find it easier to integrate because they’re white so don’t look that different. Although that never stopped them from being scapegoated and persecuted for centuries in Europe.
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Fletch » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:55 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The terrorists with ships and planes have killed and maimed millions reduced cities to rubble and destroyed entire nations in the middle east but that's ok because that's us and we only slaughter innocent civilians on an industrial because we care.


We have killed one non-combatant on missions against ISIS.

Just one civilian was harmed in RAF airstrikes that killed more than than 4,000 enemy fighters in Iraq and Syria, the British government has claimed.

An estimated 4,013 Isis militants have died in four and a half years of bombing, with 302 surviving with injuries, according to Ministry of Defence (MOD) figures.

As previously posted on here by me - most RAF airstrikes are by unmanned drone, targets are pre-planned (often vehicle strikes) and ALWAYS away from civilian occupied areas.

Anyone believing that ISIS should be left to their own devices should be given the job of doing post mortems on the Azidi women and kids being dug out of mass graves.


:pmsl:

:artist:
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby jra » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:06 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
jra wrote:
McAz wrote:
jra wrote:
McAz wrote:Having sympathy and empathy for men, women and children being blown to bits by Western forces does not mean one approves of revenge - civilised people of all faiths and none do so.

Granted, primitives revel in it.

But glad to hear that you feel that Jews and Christians can stay no matter what affinities they might have. :thumbsup:


The difference being is that Jews are not conducting terrorist attacks in the UK AFAIK.

True - they are too busy taking "revenge" on Palestinian children.


It works both ways. If the Arab states had their way, they would extinguish Israel from the face of the planet. Israel thought well 'We're not going to let that happen'. Anyway, getting back to the terrorist issue. Outside of the Middle East Israel is not responsible in general for terrorist attacks, unlike Muslim extremists following a warped version of Islam. Jewish people have generally integrated very well into UK society.


Integration is a two way thing. Jewish people may find it easier to integrate because they’re white so don’t look that different. Although that never stopped them from being scapegoated and persecuted for centuries in Europe.


You're right about the last bit. However, there is a lot more to integration than just what colour you are.
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Fletch » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:21 pm

jra wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Integration is a two way thing. Jewish people may find it easier to integrate because they’re white so don’t look that different. Although that never stopped them from being scapegoated and persecuted for centuries in Europe.


You're right about the last bit. However, there is a lot more to integration than just what colour you are.


Such as?
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Cannydc » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:23 pm

Fletch wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The terrorists with ships and planes have killed and maimed millions reduced cities to rubble and destroyed entire nations in the middle east but that's ok because that's us and we only slaughter innocent civilians on an industrial because we care.


We have killed one non-combatant on missions against ISIS.

Just one civilian was harmed in RAF airstrikes that killed more than than 4,000 enemy fighters in Iraq and Syria, the British government has claimed.

An estimated 4,013 Isis militants have died in four and a half years of bombing, with 302 surviving with injuries, according to Ministry of Defence (MOD) figures.

As previously posted on here by me - most RAF airstrikes are by unmanned drone, targets are pre-planned (often vehicle strikes) and ALWAYS away from civilian occupied areas.

Anyone believing that ISIS should be left to their own devices should be given the job of doing post mortems on the Azidi women and kids being dug out of mass graves.


:pmsl:

:artist:


Great stuff, Fletch - do inform the forum on your tactics to rid the world of the vilest bunch of murderers one could possibly imagine.

Send them aid ?
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Dinkydoobie » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:36 pm

Cannydc wrote:“Islamophobes have no place in the Tory party and it is encouraging that we have acted swiftly, unlike the socialists,” Rees-Mogg pronounced.


So we've pretty much established that there are islamophobes in the tory party and anti-semites in the labour party.

Isn't identity politics fun! :wink:
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Fletch » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:51 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The terrorists with ships and planes have killed and maimed millions reduced cities to rubble and destroyed entire nations in the middle east but that's ok because that's us and we only slaughter innocent civilians on an industrial because we care.


We have killed one non-combatant on missions against ISIS.

Just one civilian was harmed in RAF airstrikes that killed more than than 4,000 enemy fighters in Iraq and Syria, the British government has claimed.

An estimated 4,013 Isis militants have died in four and a half years of bombing, with 302 surviving with injuries, according to Ministry of Defence (MOD) figures.

As previously posted on here by me - most RAF airstrikes are by unmanned drone, targets are pre-planned (often vehicle strikes) and ALWAYS away from civilian occupied areas.

Anyone believing that ISIS should be left to their own devices should be given the job of doing post mortems on the Azidi women and kids being dug out of mass graves.


:pmsl:

:artist:


Great stuff, Fletch - do inform the forum on your tactics to rid the world of the vilest bunch of murderers one could possibly imagine.

Send them aid ?


That was FUKUS and their friends.

You really have no idea about Syria or the Middle East canny. You keep spouting the official narrative and media propaganda if it makes you feel better but the truth does not feature in it.

Try the Middle East news thread. See the declassified Pentagon papers and the pictures and film of FUKUS supplies. arms and ammunition. See the rescue missions by Israel of the Al Nusra terrorists known as the White Helmets then look at a map and see the location of terrorists and western forces and their chums, including Israel's border and their treatment of them in hospitals in Israel.

You ex military are all the same, trained to obey and never question. This is civvy street, we don't have to do that...
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Dinkydoobie » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:55 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:Integration is a two way thing. Jewish people may find it easier to integrate because they’re white so don’t look that different.

That's interesting because i'm white and i was 'bullied' in school for being half danish - kids would call me danish bacon and make pig noises and apparently I look not english enough to be called a polish bastard by random drunks although that's only happened once so i guess being white does have some advantages, although my name does give it away, like how sometimes i'll check into a hotel and they ask for my passport and say "ohh, english passport but not an english name."

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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Fletch » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:57 pm

Dinkydoobie wrote:
Cannydc wrote:“Islamophobes have no place in the Tory party and it is encouraging that we have acted swiftly, unlike the socialists,” Rees-Mogg pronounced.


So we've pretty much established that there are islamophobes in the tory party and anti-semites in the labour party.

Isn't identity politics fun! :wink:


Britain Needs A Full Inquiry Into The Poison Of Islamophobia Inside The Conservative Party

By Peter Oborne

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51225.htm

That bit is true but the false claims of anti Semitism follow a familiar pattern.

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Protect Israel and it's corrupt leaders at all costs. And don't mention the worldwide Rothschild model banking system of debt based usurious private money supply. Countries who flouted that have been destroyed, those without have been as well. Only a few remain. Syria, Iran, NK and Cuba. Funny how they are also the enemies of the west and up for regime change if the support from the west can be obtained.
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Dinkydoobie » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:58 pm

Fletch wrote:false claims of anti Semitism


Sure thing buddy and the tory party isn't Islamophobic.
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby Cannydc » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:14 pm

Fletch wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The terrorists with ships and planes have killed and maimed millions reduced cities to rubble and destroyed entire nations in the middle east but that's ok because that's us and we only slaughter innocent civilians on an industrial because we care.


We have killed one non-combatant on missions against ISIS.

Just one civilian was harmed in RAF airstrikes that killed more than than 4,000 enemy fighters in Iraq and Syria, the British government has claimed.

An estimated 4,013 Isis militants have died in four and a half years of bombing, with 302 surviving with injuries, according to Ministry of Defence (MOD) figures.

As previously posted on here by me - most RAF airstrikes are by unmanned drone, targets are pre-planned (often vehicle strikes) and ALWAYS away from civilian occupied areas.

Anyone believing that ISIS should be left to their own devices should be given the job of doing post mortems on the Azidi women and kids being dug out of mass graves.


:pmsl:

:artist:


Great stuff, Fletch - do inform the forum on your tactics to rid the world of the vilest bunch of murderers one could possibly imagine.

Send them aid ?


That was FUKUS and their friends.

You really have no idea about Syria or the Middle East canny. You keep spouting the official narrative and media propaganda if it makes you feel better but the truth does not feature in it.

Try the Middle East news thread. See the declassified Pentagon papers and the pictures and film of FUKUS supplies. arms and ammunition. See the rescue missions by Israel of the Al Nusra terrorists known as the White Helmets then look at a map and see the location of terrorists and western forces and their chums, including Israel's border and their treatment of them in hospitals in Israel.

You ex military are all the same, trained to obey and never question. This is civvy street, we don't have to do that...


Yeah, I guess you and your conspiracy sites are right, and everything 'official' is poison, and not to be trusted under any circumstances.

ISIS never existed. Figment of the establishment's imagination.

No-one tried by brutal force to establish a caliphate.

And those mass graves, beheadings, burnings alive - those films were f....a....k....e n....e....w....s

Thanks for that, Fletch. I'd never have guessed, being a thick ex-RAF electronics engineer only trained to do as I am told.....

P.S. I just love that the term FUKUS was coined in............ PRAVDA. Who'd have thought ?
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Re: TORY PARTY ISLAMOPHOBIA REARS UGLY HEAD - AGAIN

Postby McAz » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:16 pm

Dinkydoobie wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Integration is a two way thing. Jewish people may find it easier to integrate because they’re white so don’t look that different.

That's interesting because i'm white and i was 'bullied' in school for being half danish - kids would call me danish bacon and make pig noises and apparently I look not english enough to be called a polish bastard by random drunks although that's only happened once so i guess being white does have some advantages, although my name does give it away, like how sometimes i'll check into a hotel and they ask for my passport and say "ohh, english passport but not an english name."

:awesome:

Chosen people huh? Perhaps they should err on the side of humility. :dunno:
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