AIRLINE GOES BUST - BLAMES BREXIT

[wutang]

2 years of collusion more like, well in my opinion, to make leaving sound so bad that the public will demand to stay in.

Even if that was true it doesnt change the fact that the UK created this situation by triggering article 50. Maybe those demanding a refendum all these years had actually, y'know, come up with some idea of what they want once they left instead of being incompetent twats (especially the Tory Governments of Cameron and May)

[LordRaven]

Brexiteers must be proud of their latest "achievement".

Yep, glad there gone. Capitalism at it's best only the strong survive.
Your Benefits will be the next to go

That's not a bad point. Companies fail in a capitalist system. That's why I cant drive my new Studebaker to Sears.

And when someone fails, its human nature to look for someone else to blame.

It is never the failure's fault

[Grafenwalder]

Brexiteers must be proud of their latest "achievement".

Yep, glad there gone. Capitalism at it's best only the strong survive.
Your Benefits will be the next to go

I assume this was tongue in cheek humour guesty? If so, not so funny for those now out of a job and i doubt you'd be laughing if you were among those now faced with trying to put a meal on the table and pay off a mortgage. As for "my" benefits, i've no idea what makes you think i'm on benefits. I'm long retired but count myself among those fortunate enough to have had full time employment throughout, in fact i wouldn't have a clue where the benefits office is, but that doesn't mean i don't care about those less fortunate.

[LordRaven]

2 years of collusion more like, well in my opinion, to make leaving sound so bad that the public will demand to stay in.

Even if that was true it doesnt change the fact that the UK created this situation by triggering article 50. Maybe those demanding a refendum all these years had actually, y'know, come up with some idea of what they want once they left instead of being incompetent twats (especially the Tory Governments of Cameron and May)

I agree, it was a bit like regime change and de-baath'ing Iraq, what a shit plan to Win The Peace when the shooting stopped.

People never learn do they.

[LordRaven]

Brexiteers must be proud of their latest "achievement".

Yep, glad there gone. Capitalism at it's best only the strong survive.
Your Benefits will be the next to go

I assume this was tongue in cheek humour guesty? If so, not so funny for those now out of a job and i doubt you'd be laughing if you were among those now faced with trying to put a meal on the table and pay off a mortgage. As for "my" benefits, i've no idea what makes you think i'm on benefits. I'm long retired but count myself among those fortunate enough to have had full time employment throughout, in fact i wouldn't have a clue where the benefits office is, but that doesn't mean i don't care about those less fortunate.

I agree with you on this because it is not nice seeing all the unemployed people coming for interviews when there are only a few positions available.
The gig economy is a load of bollocks too, the government claims on employment figures are false.

[wutang]

People never learn do they.

I think it was hubris more than anything, the sense that we could never lose the referendum so why bother planning for it along with the leave side never expecting to get what they want so also never planning for it.

Part of me thinks that the 'leave' side never really wanted to leave they just wanted to force the EU into granting even more concessions to the UK - i.e have its cake and eat it - which has always been the UK stance on it (we want all the benefits but non of the responsibilities).

But that was never going to happen post-Lisbon treaty and so Cameron was made to look like a right chump trying to get them to bend to his demands, the same way they are making May look like a complete fool in negotiations.

[Rolluplostinspace]

Unemployment in the UK is now so low it's in danger of exposing the lie used to create the numbers
https://www.businessinsider.com/unemplo ... 7?r=US&IR=

[LordRaven]

People never learn do they.

I think it was hubris more than anything, the sense that we could never lose the referendum so why bother planning for it along with the leave side never expecting to get what they want so also never planning for it.

Part of me thinks that the 'leave' side never really wanted to leave they just wanted to force the EU into granting even more concessions to the UK - i.e have its cake and eat it - which has always been the UK stance on it (we want all the benefits but non of the responsibilities).

But that was never going to happen post-Lisbon treaty and so Cameron was made to look like a right chump trying to get them to bend to his demands, the same way they are making May look like a complete fool in negotiations.

Agreed, Call Me Dave will go down in Infamy.

[LordRaven]

Unemployment in the UK is now so low it's in danger of exposing the lie used to create the numbers
https://www.businessinsider.com/unemplo ... 7?r=US&IR=

I agree with that, soon they will include anyone paying income tax

[Grafenwalder]

Unemployment in the UK is now so low it's in danger of exposing the lie used to create the numbers
https://www.businessinsider.com/unemplo ... 7?r=US&IR=

Hardly surprised to read that as just one hour a week counts as "employed". Government have long massaged the figures.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46264291

[Guest]

The EU are undoubtedly making an example of the UK as a warning to others, this continued will only serve to breed resentment.
Why can't we all just get along?

Its the UK leaving the EU... which means leaving all of the things the EU does.

If it wants to remain in these things it needs to strike a deal but instead the useless Tories have wasted the last 2 years doing fuck all - cant blame the EU for that

Quite.

When you join a club, the rules are often in a small booklet or posted prominently on a wall. Seems we no longer want to be in the club, or pay for the facilities, but we still want use of them and are intent on crossing out the rules we don't like at the same time.

Our bad - not theirs.

Does the EU allow international flights from say America, India, Africa etc to use the airports then Canny?
Why should the EU stop British flights from bringing TOURISTS to the EU?
Does this mean BA will be going bust as well then if they can't fly to the EU?

[Guest]

Brexiteers must be proud of their latest "achievement".

Yep, glad there gone. Capitalism at it's best only the strong survive.
Your Benefits will be the next to go

I assume this was tongue in cheek humour guesty? If so, not so funny for those now out of a job and i doubt you'd be laughing if you were among those now faced with trying to put a meal on the table and pay off a mortgage. As for "my" benefits, i've no idea what makes you think i'm on benefits. I'm long retired but count myself among those fortunate enough to have had full time employment throughout, in fact i wouldn't have a clue where the benefits office is, but that doesn't mean i don't care about those less fortunate.

Yep of course you've worked all your life, and it was a great paying number with a great pension package. Fucking dreamworld

[wutang]

Does the EU allow international flights from say America, India, Africa etc to use the airports then Canny?

Those countries have deals with the EU. The UK hasn't bothered to make one yet.

[Cannydc]

The EU are undoubtedly making an example of the UK as a warning to others, this continued will only serve to breed resentment.
Why can't we all just get along?

Its the UK leaving the EU... which means leaving all of the things the EU does.

If it wants to remain in these things it needs to strike a deal but instead the useless Tories have wasted the last 2 years doing fuck all - cant blame the EU for that

Quite.

When you join a club, the rules are often in a small booklet or posted prominently on a wall. Seems we no longer want to be in the club, or pay for the facilities, but we still want use of them and are intent on crossing out the rules we don't like at the same time.

Our bad - not theirs.

Does the EU allow international flights from say America, India, Africa etc to use the airports then Canny?
Why should the EU stop British flights from bringing TOURISTS to the EU?
Does this mean BA will be going bust as well then if they can't fly to the EU?

What on earth are you burbling on about ?

No-one mentioned British flights not being allowed into the EU. Just for you, the airline spokesman said this...

"The airline has faced several difficulties, including recent spikes in fuel and carbon costs, the latter arising from the EU's recent decision to exclude UK airlines from full participation in the Emissions Trading Scheme.

"Current trading and future prospects have also been seriously affected by the uncertainty created by the Brexit process, which has led to our inability to secure valuable flying contracts in Europe."

Get it now ? Brexit - poison for them, and presumably every other UK based airline.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47267901

[Rolluplostinspace]

The EU are undoubtedly making an example of the UK as a warning to others, this continued will only serve to breed resentment.
Why can't we all just get along?

Its the UK leaving the EU... which means leaving all of the things the EU does.

If it wants to remain in these things it needs to strike a deal but instead the useless Tories have wasted the last 2 years doing fuck all - cant blame the EU for that

Quite.

When you join a club, the rules are often in a small booklet or posted prominently on a wall. Seems we no longer want to be in the club, or pay for the facilities, but we still want use of them and are intent on crossing out the rules we don't like at the same time.

Our bad - not theirs.

Does the EU allow international flights from say America, India, Africa etc to use the airports then Canny?
Why should the EU stop British flights from bringing TOURISTS to the EU?
Does this mean BA will be going bust as well then if they can't fly to the EU?

We will no longer be part of the EU.
We will be one of the few countries on planet earth with no trade political economic agreements with Europe and a huge chunk of the rest of the world because we decided to trigger article 50 before even fucking thinking about any of this.
The other way round would have been a good idea ..... mmm how long will this take how will we do this that and everything else then trigger article 50.