Labour Split!

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Angela Smith apologises for 'funny tinge' remark

MP who left Labour on Monday sparks controversy on BBC talking about BAME people

‘Good riddance’: Penistone locals on Angela Smith quitting Labour

The MP Angela Smith has apologised for having “misspoke” after she appeared to refer to people from black, Asian and minority ethnic backgrounds as having a “funny tinge”.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nge-remark

So much for leaving because the party was racist .....

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They'd have got away with without you damn kids and that fucking dog...

Uhhh?

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They'd have got away with without you damn kids and that fucking dog...

Uhhh?

#ScoobyDoo

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The Independent Group, formed out of a Labour Party split earlier today that led to 7 MPs resigning the Whip, is officially listed as a Private Company and not a political party, it has been found.

The Independent Group is not a UK listed Political Party, nor is it officially listed as a Political Party, and it was found today, hours after the group’s launch, that the website for the Independent Group is based in a Panamanian domain.

Panama is a well-known “tax haven” for private companies who wish to avoid being taxed by the higher tax rates of Western Countries. Private organisations will often set up companies or domains in the nation in an effort to benefit from the more lax policies and laws that the Panamanian government enforces.

It was also found that the Independent Group’s funding is being managed by a subsidiary Company that has a listing within the United Kingdom, called Gemini A Ltd. Gemini A’s sole registered officer, who owns an over 75% stake in the company and full directorial rights over the company, including its finances, is one of the 7 rebel MPs, Gavin Shuker.

Current electoral law requires all Political Parties to provide the full details and the names of all financial backers and donors for public consumption. Private Companies are not required to provide details of their financial backers and theoretically are not required to publish any information on donations they receive.

The Independent Group are not an official Political Party, as all 7 of the MPs who resigned the whip has announced they will remain as Independents, a term used for MPs who have no alignment with a Political Party.

While it is not unheard of for MPs to resign from their political parties to form new parties due to ideological differences, no group of MPs this large have resigned expressly to reside as Independent MPs with policies reminiscent of those of New Labour in the late 1990s. This means that any donations to the group will actually be donations to The Independent Group as a company, and then subsequently funding into Gemini A Ltd, meaning there is no requirement to provide details on the size or nature of funds going into the Independent Group under electoral law. New Labour had similar issues with transparency when it came to corporate political party funding, after it was only found that Bernie Ecclestone, the CEO of Formula 1, had donated £1 million to New Labour during their election campaign after New Labour declared Formula 1 exempt from their campaign manifesto promise to ban tobacco product advertising, sparking media fury. Now that a new enclave of Labour politicians with very similar ideologies of big business support, service privatisation, and free-market renewal fully refuse to disclose their donations being memories reminiscent of new funding scandals in waiting.

These are Tories and have no place in the modern Labour party!

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[Cannydc]

Grotesque.

Who knew ?

Not me for sure. One thing that wins elections is party discipline - and one thing that loses it is splits. However, we are better off without them.

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Their timing in support of a Tory government is pretty good.

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Grotesque.

Who knew ?

Not me for sure. One thing that wins elections is party discipline - and one thing that loses it is splits. However, we are better off without them.

No. You're not. Survation already has you polling even lower.

Interestingly a 'party' less than 24hrs old is already polling higher than libdems (8% & 6% respectively). Not exactly a remoaner surge. More a split labour vote and fully exposed anti-semitic wound on show.

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Angela Smith’s ‘funny tinge’ comment is just the tip of the iceberg – these Labour defectors are anything but progressive

There are few more meaningless Blairite phrases than “modern Britain”, and this cliche was unfortunately given another outing by formerly Labour MPs today as the Dinner Party Seven launched their breakaway independent group.

Yet it didn’t take long for them to look decidedly unmodern – about an hour and a half to be precise. No sooner had Angela Smith, one of the seven, sat down in a BBC studio than she burbled something about brown people having a “funny tinge”, thereby plunging the new group into its first race row (and then its first apology).
It was a timely reminder that this group hardly consisted of the creme-de-la-creme of politics. Unless what is left at the bottom of the barrel can be redefined as “creme”. Alas, the talent pool that came into government with Blair in 1997 has largely dried up, gone to the Lords or moved upstairs from there. Things have changed. Young talent is now very much of the Jeremy Corbyn tendency. Youth is on his side, as he quipped on Marr.

McDonnellomics – the word will catch on, trust me – may be embodied by two old silver-haired white men, but it stands for something more: diversity, reversing the gap between rich and poor, shifting the balance of power so that workers reap the benefits of their labour, and transforming public services to give everyone quality housing, jobs and income.

What remains of “the project” – as Peter Mandelson used to call it – are now largely old white men and women, bitter at the temerity of people to take control of the Labour movement, blinking in disbelief as the political landscape rumbles and moves around them.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/la ... 85491.html

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A whole hour and a half before it spouted racist shite and then an apology ... is that some kind of record?

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[wutang]

It does make you wonder...

The problem with the 'they are born that way' argument is that it reinforces the idea that being LGBT isn't something someone would WANT to be, that it sucks.

It makes being gay sound like its a disability:

"Nobody would CHOOSE to be gay cos its not normal but they are unfortunately born that way"

As opposed to arguing that "everyone has the right to live their life as they please (choose)"which empowers and embrace LGBT lifestyles rather than merely tolerate them.

Also the latter acknowledges that heterosexuality is also a choice, one often enforced by societal pressures and conditioning.
Gender and sexuality are not black and white but an endless spectrum of varying greys.

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Labour Party splits and all the fanboys go into overdrive posting drivel on social media
Slagging off the smart ones who’ve left the disaster that Corbyn’s Labour has become.
As Cannydc has reminded us time and time again, Corbyn is just a puppet.
Someone pulls the strings and he just mouths the words
He can’t “lead” because he’s not allowed to.

The “new kind of politics” is finished already.
Labour will never win an election now.