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Re: MJ

Postby Lady Murasaki » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:31 pm

art0hur0moh wrote:
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justice and right are completely independent! young Men across the western world are committing suicide left right and center and it has nothing to do with victimization or even poverty! no, I won't read the opinions of others. I will listen when You speak. otherwise, don't use other peoples words to justify Your willful ignorance.


Women attempt suicide just as often but they aren’t as successful because they aren’t as violent. Even to themselves.
Jordan Peterson lays that misconception of the gender gap to rest! they are unsuccessful because they are not violent. fatally violent to be specific.


Whoever he is he’s right on that point.
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Re: MJ

Postby art0hur0moh » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:34 pm

Cannydc wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Niv wrote:
Gabby wrote:Yep, it’s all about money.... MJ funded their lifestyle for years, also their families.... now they’re skint! :shake head:


The smirks and sly faces of his so called abused are very telling. Their parents too

As others have said, he went to Court, he was cleared of any wrong doing. He isn't here to defend himself now, and the vultures are circling to garner rich pickings. There's even talk of exhuming his body for samples. It's just greed running through this circus. He was found innocent in life, but he's being vilified in his grave. He should be left to rest in peace.


And that nice Mr Savile.....

I don't like speaking ill of the dead, even though what He did is indefensible. even if He went to court I doubt He would have been found guilty, even though every word He spoke was saturated with innuendo. I just don't feel it is right to go any further with any opinion beyond the grave. I have a hard enough time simple commenting abut these topics! I was called liberal by a police officer last night. He failed to understand what I meant by I couldn't do their job. in such cases, as a police officer, the terrorist wouldn't appear in court. if I was a Sheriff they wouldn't make it to prison. You know who has suffered and brought to bear the conversation indicating Savil as a coward. John Joseph Lydon spoke out on national television and radio! and what of that presenter on that crime show who was murdered outside Her home? how many of You were paying attention then?


If you really have no care for the victims, the chance of justice and closure for them, shame on you.

To allow the perpetrator of such horrific crimes to have their record wiped clean by dying is simply indefensible.

And the murder of Jill Dando has nothing to do with this conversation.


If you really have no care for the victims, the chance of justice and closure for them, shame on you.

To allow the perpetrator of such horrific crimes to have their record wiped clean by dying is simply indefensible.

And the murder of Jill Dando has nothing to do with this conversation. if that is what You believe I have no desire to change Your opinion. You started throwing accusations!
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Re: MJ

Postby art0hur0moh » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:40 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:
justice and right are completely independent! young Men across the western world are committing suicide left right and center and it has nothing to do with victimization or even poverty! no, I won't read the opinions of others. I will listen when You speak. otherwise, don't use other peoples words to justify Your willful ignorance.


Women attempt suicide just as often but they aren’t as successful because they aren’t as violent. Even to themselves.
Jordan Peterson lays that misconception of the gender gap to rest! they are unsuccessful because they are not violent. fatally violent to be specific.


Whoever he is he’s right on that point.

I haven't watched everything He has to say. 80% of what I have watched, and He has studied, I have more or less concluded over the years. I highly recommend every one watch. Russell Brands interview with Jordan Peterson is a great show, then again so is His interview with Joe Rogan. Lectures, interviews, etc... He tears apart the misconceptions of modernisms socialist ideologies fall from grace.
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Re: MJ

Postby art0hur0moh » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:43 pm

Cannydc wrote:So you attempt to justify denying justice for the victims of sexual assaults by quoting cases of more sexually abused kids ?

Here's one for you. My sister's son was one of his victims. If he had topped himself pre-trial (if only !!) were the victims to be denied closure ?

Read it and wonder.

A simple yes or no will suffice.

https://theukdatabase.com/2016/01/28/mi ... am-market/

second time in only two posts. wow! if that is what You believe I have no desire to change Your opinion.
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Re: MJ

Postby Cannydc » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:07 pm

art0hur0moh wrote:
Cannydc wrote:So you attempt to justify denying justice for the victims of sexual assaults by quoting cases of more sexually abused kids ?

Here's one for you. My sister's son was one of his victims. If he had topped himself pre-trial (if only !!) were the victims to be denied closure ?

Read it and wonder.

A simple yes or no will suffice.

https://theukdatabase.com/2016/01/28/mi ... am-market/

second time in only two posts. wow! if that is what You believe I have no desire to change Your opinion.


What was your answer, Art? Yes or no?
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Re: MJ

Postby art0hur0moh » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:37 pm

Cannydc wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:
Cannydc wrote:So you attempt to justify denying justice for the victims of sexual assaults by quoting cases of more sexually abused kids ?

Here's one for you. My sister's son was one of his victims. If he had topped himself pre-trial (if only !!) were the victims to be denied closure ?

Read it and wonder.

A simple yes or no will suffice.

https://theukdatabase.com/2016/01/28/mi ... am-market/

second time in only two posts. wow! if that is what You believe I have no desire to change Your opinion.


What was your answer, Art? Yes or no?

what is Your question? and answer what I asked first!
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Re: MJ

Postby Cannydc » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:41 pm

art0hur0moh wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:
Cannydc wrote:So you attempt to justify denying justice for the victims of sexual assaults by quoting cases of more sexually abused kids ?

Here's one for you. My sister's son was one of his victims. If he had topped himself pre-trial (if only !!) were the victims to be denied closure ?

Read it and wonder.

A simple yes or no will suffice.

https://theukdatabase.com/2016/01/28/mi ... am-market/

second time in only two posts. wow! if that is what You believe I have no desire to change Your opinion.


What was your answer, Art? Yes or no?

what is Your question? and answer what I asked first!


If he (the scum who abused my nephew) had topped himself pre-trial were the victims to be denied justice and closure ?
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Re: MJ

Postby Cannydc » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:43 pm

I can't find a question in any post on this page by you, Art.
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Re: MJ

Postby art0hur0moh » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:18 pm

Cannydc wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:
Cannydc wrote:So you attempt to justify denying justice for the victims of sexual assaults by quoting cases of more sexually abused kids ?

Here's one for you. My sister's son was one of his victims. If he had topped himself pre-trial (if only !!) were the victims to be denied closure ?

Read it and wonder.

A simple yes or no will suffice.

https://theukdatabase.com/2016/01/28/mi ... am-market/

second time in only two posts. wow! if that is what You believe I have no desire to change Your opinion.


What was your answer, Art? Yes or no?

what is Your question? and answer what I asked first!


If he (the scum who abused my nephew) had topped himself pre-trial were the victims to be denied justice and closure ?

no! the wages of sin is death! vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord! justice and riotousness have no relationship! the only closure comes from dealing with the trauma. no revenge will ever truly satisfy the need for closure. I on the other hand would have no remorse killing the terrorist. it is a choice thing. I wouldn't choose to live by the sword unless left with no other option. and the risk is to great to let them live. even though I don't condone the death penalty, it is the choice of the victim which is usually based on an emotional decision. Men can easily remove emotion from the equation and simply act in accordance with a decision rightly or wrongly. it isn't natural for members for the same species to commit murder with deliberate intent. that is why the military prefer the insane, they know not right from wrong. therefor they remain innocent of wrong doing. however the insane can only follow orders and have no inclination to take advantage of situations that lead to victory. that requires conscientious thought! now I have answered your question before You even attempted to answer mine.

at least them killing them selves is an indication of remorse!
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Re: MJ

Postby art0hur0moh » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:18 pm

Cannydc wrote:I can't find a question in any post on this page by you, Art.

I asked three questions interspersed by two spaces.
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Re: MJ

Postby art0hur0moh » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:32 am

here Canny You favorite, the daily wail!

"a lawsuit filed by five Neverland employees against Jackson for wrongful dismissal." the source of allegations.



and this is the first piece of evidence I have looked at! ever!
I am even less convinced now. and am in an uncomfortable position where I don't want to dismiss the alleged victims.

I recommend You watch a film By Hallmark about a couple falsely accused of abusing their Children by a lawyer wanting to make a name for Him self. it was the result of these cases that more rigorous controls on interviewing Children became so highly controlled. Many Children where convinced By the lawyer that if they cooperate they could go Home. another point is Children know! did the victims Parents force their Children to go to neverland? because if that is the case, then they are just a responsible for the abuse as the the abuser is.

even more intriguing is How so short a time after this story breaks, a multiple murderous campaign is distracting People from this story now?

and written by no less than two columnists! who seem to see something in the video that I can't?
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Re: MJ

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:50 am

art0hur0moh wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:
justice and right are completely independent! young Men across the western world are committing suicide left right and center and it has nothing to do with victimization or even poverty! no, I won't read the opinions of others. I will listen when You speak. otherwise, don't use other peoples words to justify Your willful ignorance.


Women attempt suicide just as often but they aren’t as successful because they aren’t as violent. Even to themselves.
Jordan Peterson lays that misconception of the gender gap to rest! they are unsuccessful because they are not violent. fatally violent to be specific.


Whoever he is he’s right on that point.

I haven't watched everything He has to say. 80% of what I have watched, and He has studied, I have more or less concluded over the years. I highly recommend every one watch. Russell Brands interview with Jordan Peterson is a great show, then again so is His interview with Joe Rogan. Lectures, interviews, etc... He tears apart the misconceptions of modernisms socialist ideologies fall from grace.


Be careful, he’s not God, he’s just a well read psychologist. I’ve liked what I’ve heard so far because he just seems to go for it regardless of criticism. He’s probably going to end up being a reluctant spiritual leader, I prefer Alan Watts and Sadhguru Jaggi.
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Re: MJ

Postby art0hur0moh » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:59 pm

just watched Joe Rogan propose a theory that Jackson was chemical castrated. they then pulled up an article by His doctor claiming that His parent did do that.
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Re: MJ

Postby art0hur0moh » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:06 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Women attempt suicide just as often but they aren’t as successful because they aren’t as violent. Even to themselves.
Jordan Peterson lays that misconception of the gender gap to rest! they are unsuccessful because they are not violent. fatally violent to be specific.


Whoever he is he’s right on that point.

I haven't watched everything He has to say. 80% of what I have watched, and He has studied, I have more or less concluded over the years. I highly recommend every one watch. Russell Brands interview with Jordan Peterson is a great show, then again so is His interview with Joe Rogan. Lectures, interviews, etc... He tears apart the misconceptions of modernisms socialist ideologies fall from grace.


Be careful, he’s not God, he’s just a well read psychologist. I’ve liked what I’ve heard so far because he just seems to go for it regardless of criticism. He’s probably going to end up being a reluctant spiritual leader, I prefer Alan Watts and Sadhguru Jaggi.
not that keen on Alan Watts, very little of what He says resonates with Me! Jordan Peterson has studied the spiritual history using His professional understanding. all though He explains thing in psychological terms, and isn't as strong a proponent of the literal interpretation of ancient text as I am. for the simple reason I have actually tested some of the fundamental principles and can conclude that Peterson's interpretations, although not literal, are for the most part correct.
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Re: MJ

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:31 pm

Jordon Peterson is a psychologist and a Christian. He explains things in both of those terms. He is quite literal when he espouses family values, not that there’s anything wrong in that but one size does not fit all. Alan Watts is a Taoist, that fits for me more.
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